What was the message that Elijah the tishbite was sent to deliver to the people?

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luigi

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What are you talking about? No i am not denying anything. I said no one in this earth that has been here in the last 2000 years since John the beloved has seen Jesus His Pre-Eminence, either in a dream or in reality in this earth.

Elijah is greatest out of all the Prophets. The two witnesses was pointing to the testimonies of the Law, and the Prophet, personified as Moses and Elijah.
Saint Stephen also saw the Lord Jesus just prior to him giving up the ghost (Acts 7:55-56).

And how do you know that no one has seen the Lord over the last 2,000 years???
 
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Saint Stephen also saw the Lord Jesus just prior to him giving up the ghost (Acts 7:55-56).

And how do you know that no one has seen the Lord over the last 2,000 years???
has anyone given an accurate description of HIM in HIS transfigured state?
 

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has anyone given an accurate description of HIM in HIS transfigured state?
The new transfigured state can be anything the spiritual bodies want themselves to appear. Did not Jesus appear several times to the apostles in different forms? Have not some entertained angels, being unaware they were spiritual beings?
 
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The new transfigured state can be anything the spiritual bodies want themselves to appear. Did not Jesus appear several times to the apostles in different forms? Have not some entertained angels, being unaware they were spiritual beings?

John the Beloved described a little in Rev 1.

heaven is not a ghost world... That is why there must be the resurrection for the children of the kingdom that died in this earth.
 

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John the Beloved described a little in Rev 1.

heaven is not a ghost world... That is why there must be the resurrection for the children of the kingdom that died in this earth.
Heaven is a Spirit world, that can be anything it wants to be. This includes taking material form if desired, as did Jesus for the apostles sake.
 
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Heaven is a Spirit world, that can be anything it wants to be. This includes taking material form if desired, as did Jesus for the apostles sake.
Heaven is a physical realm. Angels have their anatomy, cherubim and Seraphim have their anatomy, and Mankind has his anatomy.

Question, did Jesus His Pre-Eminence have a physical body when HE ascended?
 

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Heaven is a physical realm. Angels have their anatomy, cherubim and Seraphim have their anatomy, and Mankind has his anatomy.
The kingdom of God within us is a spiritual realm (Luke 17:21).
 

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Question, did Jesus His Pre-Eminence have a physical body when HE ascended?
He had a translated body. Our physical bodies on the most miniscule scale consist of energy.
 
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The kingdom of God within us is a spiritual realm (Luke 17:21).
That is not what that means. Man is not his body, man is a Spirit Being.
And the children of the kingdom are citizens of the kingdom. Jesus His Pre-Eminence was pointing to the Spirit Being in the physical body.

The kingdom of GOD is higher than the heavens. Now you are talking about the realm of ELOHIM. THE Kingdom of heaven is not the same.
 
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He had a translated body. Our physical bodies on the most miniscule scale consist of energy.
What do you think translated means? HE had HIS perfect body. So why is there the resurrection then?
 

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That is not what that means. Man is not his body, man is a Spirit Being.
And the children of the kingdom are citizens of the kingdom. Jesus His Pre-Eminence was pointing to the Spirit Being in the physical body.

The kingdom of GOD is higher than the heavens. Now you are talking about the realm of ELOHIM. THE Kingdom of heaven is not the same.
The kingdom of God is the kingdom of heaven (Luke 16:16-17).
 
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The kingdom of God is the kingdom of heaven (Luke 16:16-17).
No it isn't. The Kingdom of Heaven consists of the heavens worlds for the citizens of heaven. The Kingdom of GOD is the Realm of the ELOHIM. Now you are talking about the society of the GOD HEAD. And no citizen can enter there. It is only the Son of GOD that can go there.
 

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What do you think translated means? HE had HIS perfect body. So why is there the resurrection then?
The Lords physical body which consisted of energy was transformed and no longer restricted to the physical form humans are restricted to today.
To this day scientists do not know why the atoms in all physical matter coalesce, and not fly apart.

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
 
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The Lords physical body which consisted of energy was transformed and no longer restricted to the physical form humans are restricted to today.
To this day scientists do not know why the atoms in all physical matter coalesce, and not fly apart.

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
That is because HIS body is celestial. The earth is terrestrial. The rules and laws which govern this earth cannot bind HIS body. HIS body has not any blood or water in her, and her systems are not the same either. Its very simple. Except ye are born again, ye cannot see the kingdom.
 

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No it isn't. The Kingdom of Heaven consists of the heavens worlds for the citizens of heaven. The Kingdom of GOD is the Realm of the ELOHIM. Now you are talking about the society of the GOD HEAD. And no citizen can enter there. It is only the Son of GOD that can go there.
The saints will enter the kingdom of God/heaven once the final seven plagues from the Lords wrath is poured out on the faithless.

Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.
 

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That is because HIS body is celestial. The earth is terrestrial. The rules and laws which govern this earth cannot bind HIS body. HIS body has not any blood or water in her, and her systems are not the same either. Its very simple. Except ye are born again, ye cannot see the kingdom.
Except ye are born again, SPIRITUALLY.
 
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The saints will enter the kingdom of God/heaven once the final seven plagues from the Lords wrath is poured out on the faithless.

Revelation 15:8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.
We are in the 7th right now. And only those who put off mortality, and put on immortality in life alive, as Enoch and Elijah did will enter into heaven alive. The others were resurrected when Jesus His Pre-Eminence resurrected HIMSELF, and those who are candidatew of the first resurrection.

Even still none of them can enter the kingdom of GOD. They can enter the kingdom of heaven.
 

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We are in the 7th right now. And only those who put off mortality, and put on immortality in life alive, as Enoch and Elijah did will enter into heaven alive. The others were resurrected when Jesus His Pre-Eminence resurrected HIMSELF, and those who are candidatew of the first resurrection.

Even still none of them can enter the kingdom of GOD. They can enter the kingdom of heaven.
So according to you there are two different kingdoms, that of God, and that of heaven?
 

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Except you put on your immortal celestial body you cannot see the kingdom.
So according to your perspective we're not born again until our bodies are transfigured?