What was the message that Elijah the tishbite was sent to deliver to the people?

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John the Baptist is an Elijah. There are three Elijah.
You are focusing on the person not on the Holy Spirit in the person. nothing in the Bible says JOhn there Baptist is Elijah
 
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You are focusing on the person not on the Holy Spirit in the person. nothing in the Bible says JOhn there Baptist is Elijah
Interesting you make this claim, considering many use Malachi 4 to claim to otherwise. Even if Malachi 4 was not speaking of John the baptist.

In any case, Jesus His Pre-Eminence reveals he is an Elijah.

10And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? 11And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. 12But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 13Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

The Elijah that is restorer of all things, is the third Elijah.
The Elijah John the Baptist is the 2nd Elijah.
And Elijah of Tishbe, is the first Elijah.

There are three Elijah.
 
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So how did those who spoke to Elisha telling him Your master going up today know? They did not follow Elijah? Why were they there?
Since they knew he was being taken that day, it proves Elijah taught them about transfiguration.
 

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Interesting you make this claim, considering many use Malachi 4 to claim to otherwise. Even if Malachi 4 was not speaking of John the baptist.

In any case, Jesus His Pre-Eminence reveals he is an Elijah.

10And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? 11And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. 12But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. 13Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

The Elijah that is restorer of all things, is the third Elijah.
The Elijah John the Baptist is the 2nd Elijah.
And Elijah of Tishbe, is the first Elijah.


There are three Elijah.
The works of the Holy Spirit. The language spoken by Jesus here is speaking to the work done by John by the Holy Spirit. Rember John was filled with the Holy Spirit while in his mother's womb

The speaking of Elijah by Jesus is figuratively the person Elijah only did what they did because of the Holy Spirit or in the Old Testament the Spirit of the Lord.
 
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The works of the Holy Spirit. The language spoken by Jesus here is speaking to the work done by John by the Holy Spirit. Rember John was filled with the Holy Spirit while in his mother's womb

The speaking of Elijah by Jesus is figuratively the person Elijah only did what they did because of the Holy Spirit or in the Old Testament the Spirit of the Lord.
This is incorrect. I understand why you are saying it, and it will take me a long time to explain why. But let me start here.

Man is not the body. Man is a Spirit Being, Programmed in the soul and immersed or baptised into their physical body. Elijah of tishbe is not the Most Holy Spirit of GOD, His Spirit being is himself. John the Baptist is the same. What John the Baptist's biological mother felt, that was called "The Holy Spirit" is actually the Spirit Being of John the Baptist.

You, and me, and all the children of the kingdom are Spirit Beings, programmed in the soul, and immersed into the physical body by the GOD. This we learned happens in the 6th - 7th month of pregnancy. The evidence is the fact that it was noted that John the Baptist bioloigical mother was 6th months into her pregnancy at that time.

Proof is that it is GOD who gives children. A child is born, a son is given. The physical body is what was formed in the womb, stitched by the seed that the Man sows into the woman that fertilizes an egg. The Spirit Being of the person is the real person. The children of the kingdom are all in the fathers Bosom before they are programmed in the soul and baptised or immersed into the physical body. And there is the total number of them; its not infinite. The mission of procreation will end.

All the children of the kingdom are holy spirits. GOD is the Most Holy Spirit. And tares are unholy spirits. A tare cannot become a wheat. A wheat cannot become a tare. What matters is where the Spirit Being is from. When GOD does not respect the comception, HE does not send a child of the kingdom into that womans womb. It is at that time, that the an unholy spirit is sent from the abyss and enters into that body. Lucfier is a tare cherub. His Spirit being comes from the Abyss. GOD allowed it because darkness needed to be defined, for light to also be defined. All the tares are cast into the lake of fire. A child of the kingdom can never be cast into the lake of fire.

In short, all the Spirit Beings of the children of the kingdom were birthed, or produced in the fathers Bosom according to their order. There is first of all Father Adam, who produced his model type, Mother Eve, and then produced three sons. The proof is that GOD took a from the body of Father Adam to couple the body of Mother Eve. These three sons are the three Elijah.

Then the three Elijah produced their model types, and produced 4 sons each. These make up the 12 Patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel.

Then the 12 Patriarchs each produced their model types, and produced 12 sons each. These are the 144.

Then the multiplication started as each man produced his model type, and produced 12 sons each. And this continued until the Man could no longer produce his model type. These are the ones called "eunuch's of the kingdom because they could not produce sons. It is these children that are candidates of the second resurrection because they do not have their model types.

This is the order of the Mankind race. The head of Man is Father Adam. The Elijah are the Prophets of the highest order. The 12 Patriarchs of the 12 tribes are the next in seniority, then the 144 are the next. And it goes down the line of production.

All the Spirit Beings of the children of the kingdom wait in the fathers Bosom for their time to be sent into this earth to pick up a physical body. Our physical body is needed because that is the body that will transfigure, be it in life alive, or resurrection. For no man can enter into heaven without the celestial, immortal body.

Elisha showed great ignorance when he said: Give me a double portion of your Spirit. And Elijah replied, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.

Elisha wasn't supposed to stay behind, Elisha was supposed to transfigure and go with him. But Elisha did not complete his race. Meaning, he did not overthrow his mortal body and put on the immortal celestial body in life. So he had to stay.

Thus, John the Baptist is one of the Elijah.
 

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This is incorrect. I understand why you are saying it, and it will take me a long time to explain why. But let me start here.

Man is not the body. Man is a Spirit Being, Programmed in the soul and immersed or baptised into their physical body. Elijah of tishbe is not the Most Holy Spirit of GOD, His Spirit being is himself. John the Baptist is the same. What John the Baptist's biological mother felt, that was called "The Holy Spirit" is actually the Spirit Being of John the Baptist.

You, and me, and all the children of the kingdom are Spirit Beings, programmed in the soul, and immersed into the physical body by the GOD. This we learned happens in the 6th - 7th month of pregnancy. The evidence is the fact that it was noted that John the Baptist bioloigical mother was 6th months into her pregnancy at that time.

Proof is that it is GOD who gives children. A child is born, a son is given. The physical body is what was formed in the womb, stitched by the seed that the Man sows into the woman that fertilizes an egg. The Spirit Being of the person is the real person. The children of the kingdom are all in the fathers Bosom before they are programmed in the soul and baptised or immersed into the physical body. And there is the total number of them; its not infinite. The mission of procreation will end.

All the children of the kingdom are holy spirits. GOD is the Most Holy Spirit. And tares are unholy spirits. A tare cannot become a wheat. A wheat cannot become a tare. What matters is where the Spirit Being is from. When GOD does not respect the comception, HE does not send a child of the kingdom into that womans womb. It is at that time, that the an unholy spirit is sent from the abyss and enters into that body. Lucfier is a tare cherub. His Spirit being comes from the Abyss. GOD allowed it because darkness needed to be defined, for light to also be defined. All the tares are cast into the lake of fire. A child of the kingdom can never be cast into the lake of fire.

In short, all the Spirit Beings of the children of the kingdom were birthed, or produced in the fathers Bosom according to their order. There is first of all Father Adam, who produced his model type, Mother Eve, and then produced three sons. The proof is that GOD took a from the body of Father Adam to couple the body of Mother Eve. These three sons are the three Elijah.

Then the three Elijah produced their model types, and produced 4 sons each. These make up the 12 Patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel.

Then the 12 Patriarchs each produced their model types, and produced 12 sons each. These are the 144.

Then the multiplication started as each man produced his model type, and produced 12 sons each. And this continued until the Man could no longer produce his model type. These are the ones called "eunuch's of the kingdom because they could not produce sons. It is these children that are candidates of the second resurrection because they do not have their model types.

This is the order of the Mankind race. The head of Man is Father Adam. The Elijah are the Prophets of the highest order. The 12 Patriarchs of the 12 tribes are the next in seniority, then the 144 are the next. And it goes down the line of production.

All the Spirit Beings of the children of the kingdom wait in the fathers Bosom for their time to be sent into this earth to pick up a physical body. Our physical body is needed because that is the body that will transfigure, be it in life alive, or resurrection. For no man can enter into heaven without the celestial, immortal body.

Elisha showed great ignorance when he said: Give me a double portion of your Spirit. And Elijah replied, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.

Elisha wasn't supposed to stay behind, Elisha was supposed to transfigure and go with him. But Elisha did not complete his race. Meaning, he did not overthrow his mortal body and put on the immortal celestial body in life. So he had to stay.

Thus, John the Baptist is one of the Elijah.
So you think it was Elijah who did those things not the Spirit of the Lord as the word of God states that came upon him?
 
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So you think it was Elijah who did those things not the Spirit of the Lord as the word of God states that came upon him?
It is Elijah, yes. Elijah, along with the Prophets have innate abilities in their Spirit Being. That is why only a Prophet can hear from GOD inaudibly, in GOD's Height of Communication and Frequency, then decipher and assimilate the revelation, and then to teach the people is another.

All the children of the kingdom have their innate abilities, which is determined by the Spirit Being who produced them, and their order of birth in the mankind Race. But Prophets, Prophets have the Spirit of Prophecy. And what determines if they are Major, or minor Prophets, is the measure of their Spirit of prophecy. Some have great measure, such as Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Jeremiah, others have less.
And this is not a talent given to them, they inherited it by birth. Among the Prophets, only the Elijah have the Spirit of Prophecy in full.
 

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This is incorrect. I understand why you are saying it, and it will take me a long time to explain why. But let me start here.

Man is not the body. Man is a Spirit Being, Programmed in the soul and immersed or baptised into their physical body. Elijah of tishbe is not the Most Holy Spirit of GOD, His Spirit being is himself. John the Baptist is the same. What John the Baptist's biological mother felt, that was called "The Holy Spirit" is actually the Spirit Being of John the Baptist.

You, and me, and all the children of the kingdom are Spirit Beings, programmed in the soul, and immersed into the physical body by the GOD. This we learned happens in the 6th - 7th month of pregnancy. The evidence is the fact that it was noted that John the Baptist bioloigical mother was 6th months into her pregnancy at that time.

Proof is that it is GOD who gives children. A child is born, a son is given. The physical body is what was formed in the womb, stitched by the seed that the Man sows into the woman that fertilizes an egg. The Spirit Being of the person is the real person. The children of the kingdom are all in the fathers Bosom before they are programmed in the soul and baptised or immersed into the physical body. And there is the total number of them; its not infinite. The mission of procreation will end.

All the children of the kingdom are holy spirits. GOD is the Most Holy Spirit. And tares are unholy spirits. A tare cannot become a wheat. A wheat cannot become a tare. What matters is where the Spirit Being is from. When GOD does not respect the comception, HE does not send a child of the kingdom into that womans womb. It is at that time, that the an unholy spirit is sent from the abyss and enters into that body. Lucfier is a tare cherub. His Spirit being comes from the Abyss. GOD allowed it because darkness needed to be defined, for light to also be defined. All the tares are cast into the lake of fire. A child of the kingdom can never be cast into the lake of fire.

In short, all the Spirit Beings of the children of the kingdom were birthed, or produced in the fathers Bosom according to their order. There is first of all Father Adam, who produced his model type, Mother Eve, and then produced three sons. The proof is that GOD took a from the body of Father Adam to couple the body of Mother Eve. These three sons are the three Elijah.

Then the three Elijah produced their model types, and produced 4 sons each. These make up the 12 Patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel.

Then the 12 Patriarchs each produced their model types, and produced 12 sons each. These are the 144.

Then the multiplication started as each man produced his model type, and produced 12 sons each. And this continued until the Man could no longer produce his model type. These are the ones called "eunuch's of the kingdom because they could not produce sons. It is these children that are candidates of the second resurrection because they do not have their model types.

This is the order of the Mankind race. The head of Man is Father Adam. The Elijah are the Prophets of the highest order. The 12 Patriarchs of the 12 tribes are the next in seniority, then the 144 are the next. And it goes down the line of production.

All the Spirit Beings of the children of the kingdom wait in the fathers Bosom for their time to be sent into this earth to pick up a physical body. Our physical body is needed because that is the body that will transfigure, be it in life alive, or resurrection. For no man can enter into heaven without the celestial, immortal body.

Elisha showed great ignorance when he said: Give me a double portion of your Spirit. And Elijah replied, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.

Elisha wasn't supposed to stay behind, Elisha was supposed to transfigure and go with him. But Elisha did not complete his race. Meaning, he did not overthrow his mortal body and put on the immortal celestial body in life. So he had to stay.

Thus, John the Baptist is one of the Elijah.

Well friend you are very much allegorizing the word of God and ignoring what the very Bible says. John the baptist

in Luke 1:15

says by the word of the Lord through the messenger Gabriel

For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Now you are saying that is not the case / The Messenger of the Lord got it wrong? Or did you? Let's read on.

Luke 1:41

And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

Both the Baby and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost
 

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It is Elijah, yes. Elijah, along with the Prophets have innate abilities in their Spirit Being. That is why only a Prophet can hear from GOD inaudibly, in GOD's Height of Communication and Frequency, then decipher and assimilate the revelation, and then to teach the people is another.

All the children of the kingdom have their innate abilities, which is determined by the Spirit Being who produced them, and their order of birth in the mankind Race. But Prophets, Prophets have the Spirit of Prophecy. And what determines if they are Major, or minor Prophets, is the measure of their Spirit of prophecy. Some have great measure, such as Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Jeremiah, others have less.
And this is not a talent given to them, they inherited it by birth. Among the Prophets, only the Elijah have the Spirit of Prophecy in full.

LOL, I am very sorry to tell you the bible doesn't teach that.
 
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Well friend you are very much allegorizing the word of God and ignoring what the very Bible says. John the baptist

in Luke 1:15

says by the word of the Lord through the messenger Gabriel

For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

Now you are saying that is not the case / The Messenger of the Lord got it wrong? Or did you? Let's read on.

Luke 1:41

And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

Both the Baby and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost
The Holy Ghost, is a Spirit Being programmed in a soul. GOD is the Most Holy Spirit. GOD's Spirit Being is HIMSELF, and HE is not Programmed in the soul. I am not allegorizing anything. That is why all the children of kingdom are numbered. This birth in the earth is not their beginning. We came from the Fathers Bosom.
 
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LOL, I am very sorry to tell you the bible doesn't teach that.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy
 

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The Holy Ghost, is a Spirit Being programmed in a soul. GOD is the Most Holy Spirit. GOD's Spirit Being is HIMSELF, and HE is not Programmed in the soul. I am not allegorizing anything. That is why all the children of kingdom are numbered. This birth in the earth is not their beginning. We came from the Fathers Bosom.

I don't know your background but you are way off the guy. The Holy Spirit is God. And yes you are allegorizing.
You have over-spiritualized the word of God in such a way where the context is not even saying such things.
Unbiblical.
 

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... Enoch is a an angel of the church. Noah was also an Angel of the Church, and Abraham, Moses, Joshua, and Apostle Peter are the 6 Angels of the Churches. Enoch is greater than the Prophets not named Elijah.
Why do you call these men angels? That is quite simply, wrong.
 

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The Holy Ghost, is a Spirit Being programmed in a soul. GOD is the Most Holy Spirit. GOD's Spirit Being is HIMSELF, and HE is not Programmed in the soul. I am not allegorizing anything. That is why all the children of kingdom are numbered. This birth in the earth is not their beginning. We came from the Fathers Bosom.
Where do you get this? A soul is physicality PLUS the breath of God.

The Holy Spirit is SPIRIT.
 

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10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy
which verse 10 are you reading from because luke 1:10 doesn't say that?
 
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I don't know your background but you are way off the guy. The Holy Spirit is God. And yes you are allegorizing.
You have over-spiritualized the word of God in such a way where the context is not even saying such things.
Unbiblical.
The WORD of GOD is Spirtual and Life giving. i am not allegorizing, i am bringing it into reality with Revelations, the hidden Manna.

For the GOD in HIS incarnate Manifestation said:


10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Why is there a place in the instructons that Moses was given, called the Most Holy Place?
 
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Where do you get this? A soul is physicality PLUS the breath of God.

The Holy Spirit is SPIRIT.
It is not. The Soul is made from the dews of Heaven. The Soul is not the person. The Person is the Spirit Being Programmed in the soul.
 

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The WORD of GOD is Spirtual and Life giving. i am not allegorizing, i am bringing it into reality with Revelations, the hidden Manna.

For the GOD in HIS incarnate Manifestation said:


10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Why is there a place in the instructons that Moses was given, called the Most Holy Place?
no, you are allegorizing