What would Jesus say about evolution?
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I posted this in your voting thread, so I will post here for others to read.
Lets just say that if we managed to build a time maching and went back 30 years and could emperically prove human civilization existed then, it would not change my world view, just a small part of my how I think God did things according to Scripture.
Scientific fact/theory does not = truth, even according to sciences own definition of those two terms.
per Definitions of Fact, Theory, and Law in Scientific Work | NCSE
While I do not fear the possible truth to any "facts" of science, I will always beleive the truth of Scripture, and will always be leary of the "facts" of science.
Scientific fact/theory does not = truth, even according to sciences own definition of those two terms.
per Definitions of Fact, Theory, and Law in Scientific Work | NCSE
- Fact: In science, an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed and for all practical purposes is accepted as “true.” Truth in science, however, is never final and what is accepted as a fact today may be modified or even discarded tomorrow.
- Hypothesis: A tentative statement about the natural world leading to deductions that can be tested. If the deductions are verified, the hypothesis is provisionally corroborated. If the deductions are incorrect, the original hypothesis is proved false and must be abandoned or modified. Hypotheses can be used to build more complex inferences and explanations.
- Law: A descriptive generalization about how some aspect of the natural world behaves under stated circumstances.
- Theory: In science, a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.
While I do not fear the possible truth to any "facts" of science, I will always beleive the truth of Scripture, and will always be leary of the "facts" of science.
Without the bacteria in your gut you wouldn't be able to digest anything, you'd die of starvation.
Bees aren't wasps... anyway honey isn't a magic sweetener, it can kill infants or make the elderly dangerously ill.
Yes some viruses are man made, engineered to kill, but HIV isn't man made, neither is the Polio virus.
Bees aren't wasps... anyway honey isn't a magic sweetener, it can kill infants or make the elderly dangerously ill.
Yes some viruses are man made, engineered to kill, but HIV isn't man made, neither is the Polio virus.
Well it was a theory, then it was tested, repeatedly, many thousands of times by different researchers all over the world in many different fields and was found to be more factual than just a wacked out theory. Taking the stance that it is still just a theory without looking deeper into the science for yourself is rather inconsistent with your desire to seek God at times when you feel you don't have answers to important questions.
Jesus already commented on the matter...
And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.
(Mar 10:5-10)
So did Paul...
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts and creeping things.
(Rom 1:21-23)
And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.
(Mar 10:5-10)
So did Paul...
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts and creeping things.
(Rom 1:21-23)
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Were Adam and Eve the first homo sapiens? Or the first homo sapiens with an eternal soul?
How about possible gaps in the Bible genealogies? So did Adam really live possibly 70,000 years ago instead of 6,000 years ago.
The 6 literal days of creation ....or the Framework theory?
Was Noah's flood regional? Did it take place in the whole KNOWN world? In Luke's Gospel it says that Caesar had the whole world taxed, but it meant the Known Roman World. So why not have the same meaning in Genesis?
How about possible gaps in the Bible genealogies? So did Adam really live possibly 70,000 years ago instead of 6,000 years ago.
The 6 literal days of creation ....or the Framework theory?
Was Noah's flood regional? Did it take place in the whole KNOWN world? In Luke's Gospel it says that Caesar had the whole world taxed, but it meant the Known Roman World. So why not have the same meaning in Genesis?
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The first chapter of Genesis is a type of poetry told in prose. A symbolic way of saying that God built the universe in an orderly manner. The first 3 days God's builds the framework. The next 3 days God correspondingly fills in the gaps. It shows how God built the universe like a man builds a house. And He then rested like men should. Showing men to live orderly lives and rest each week, because God did too.
But that does not mean it was 6 literal 24 hour days. What is a day to God?
But that does not mean it was 6 literal 24 hour days. What is a day to God?
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If they were not the first man and woman period then there must have been death previously leading up to Adam and Eve. And if death then sin. And if that is the case the book of Romans esp chapter 5 is false. And if some of God's word is false who's to say what other part's are false and then there goes God's credibility.
But go on believing the testimony of man over God if you so desire.
But go on believing the testimony of man over God if you so desire.
W
Are you saying that the Bible teaches that animals were supposed to be immortal before Adam and Eve sinned? How about plants? I thought that only Adam and Eve were supposed to be immortal. Not the animals and plants too. How about mosquitoes and flies?
This quote only appears to be talking about Adam's race, which does not include animals or insects: "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned..." - Romans 5:12 (KJV)
This quote only appears to be talking about Adam's race, which does not include animals or insects: "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned..." - Romans 5:12 (KJV)
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Adam and Eve werent immortal until they ate of the tree of life. My guess is they were the first, which would be why they were the most talked about. God would say that the Evolution theory is completely true. And then he would say the Darwinism theory is a bunch of ----. A long long time ago scientists figured out that animals could evolve to be better equipped to handle habitat change. Such as changes in food, and temperature, they could become more resistant to disease, and in some cases over an extended period of time some species of water animals were equipped to be able to reside in both land and water, and vice versa which with the changing world we live in today proved to be a much needed capability. This is the theory of Evolution, and yes, it is 100% true, and proven. And then came professor Darwin. Who created Darwinism. Which is the theory that humans evolved from primates. It has not been proven. We have yet to find bigfoot, and apparently it is the missing link. However, at ome point over the last 10 years, people confused Evolution, and Darwinism, and now everyone walks around thinking their the same thing when they are indeed not. Not even close. Darwin created a theoretical database, and outlined a THEORY of how we could have evolved from primates. He offered a new, and and very advanced teaching to the world of science and made millions of dollars, as a successful entrapenuer, or whatever he chooses to call his line of work. And it had nothing to do with Adam and Eve, or the tree of life. The End.
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Did you seriously mean to write this? "Darwin created a theoretical database, and outlined a THEORY of how we could have evolved from primates. He offered a new, and and very advanced teaching to the world of science and made millions of dollars, as a successful entrapenuer, or whatever he chooses to call his line of work"
Say what?
Say what?
C
Let me break it down for you.
DARWIN. Being different entity than the group of scientists who created the theory of evolution. CREATED a theoretical database. being interpretted - AN ONLINE DATABASE THAT WAS IN NO WAY REPRODUCED IN REALITY. He made valid points as a scientist or ENTRAPENUER being interpretted is however one chooses to define their line of work when being self employed rather than being hired.
Made millions of dollars- being interpretted means his work became famous among scientists, and they are all still trying to prove his theory. And then he ... well made millions of dollars.
I have now tried clarification to the best of my abilities. Thank you for your time.
DARWIN. Being different entity than the group of scientists who created the theory of evolution. CREATED a theoretical database. being interpretted - AN ONLINE DATABASE THAT WAS IN NO WAY REPRODUCED IN REALITY. He made valid points as a scientist or ENTRAPENUER being interpretted is however one chooses to define their line of work when being self employed rather than being hired.
Made millions of dollars- being interpretted means his work became famous among scientists, and they are all still trying to prove his theory. And then he ... well made millions of dollars.
I have now tried clarification to the best of my abilities. Thank you for your time.