When Has God Gathered After He Scattered Without Any Repentance?

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Evmur

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I didn’t ask you for a reply, I asked you for an example.

Checked your OP responses going back to March 15 and not a single one contains a Scriptural example of God gathering the nation of Israel back to the land after scattering them for disobedience without them first repenting.
You are being dull. The main thrust of your argument is that the Jews now living in Israel are not really Jews, we have debunked that. Therefore seeing as we have shown they are Jews the only question is can any nation be formed except by God's will?

Therefore the Jews have returned or in part at least ... if you need help in identifying a Jew you might like to check out the description of Jews put out in wicked caricature by the nazis.

And Jews recognize each other by something called the shibboleth which is a peculiarity of speech which only the Jews have.
 
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Gene pool seemed pretty clear when they were loading them onto trains and to their certain deaths. Funny, nobody seemed to care about their "purity" then. Odd that.
The Khazarian Empire hijacking of Judaism took place around ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO. That’s plenty of time for the post-1,500 year descendants of the pagan Khazarian Empire to be fully invested in an identity that was stolen by their ancestors, and any thinking person can understand that.
 
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I didn’t ask you for a reply, I asked you for an example.

Checked your OP responses going back to March 15 and not a single one contains a Scriptural example of God gathering the nation of Israel back to the land after scattering them for disobedience without them first repenting.


You have been given the answer by several here!! There will be repentance, no one here has said otherwise! You have been answered at length and you ignore it. I said '48 is the beginning of gathering. There will be repentance. Yet you blather on with the same question which has been answered here a dozen times! What you're "preaching" is false doctrine. You've been proven wrong with Scripture, yet you insist you're right. So why bother?! You think you're right no matter what anyone says or shows you in Scripture. Israel is the nation that was born in a day, you can hate the Jews and keep spewing made up purity tests. God said they are the apple of His eye. Period.
 
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You are being dull. The main thrust of your argument is that the Jews now living in Israel are not really Jews, we have debunked that. Therefore seeing as we have shown they are Jews the only question is can any nation be formed except by God's will?

Therefore the Jews have returned or in part at least ... if you need help in identifying a Jew you might like to check out the description of Jews put out in wicked caricature by the nazis.

And Jews recognize each other by something called the shibboleth which is a peculiarity of speech which only the Jews have.
What’s not dull is myself and all the people reading this thread watching you guys spin yiur wheels in a vain search of a Biblical example of when God gathered Israel after scattering their disobedient butts without them first having repented - and the inconsistency in asserting God had anything to to with 1948 concerning a people who to this day call Jesus “Son of a Whore”.

THE KHAZARS HIJACKED JUDAISM SO OF COURSE THEY CO-OPTED THE LANGUAGE, CUSTOMS, ETC. :)
 

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What’s not dull is myself and all the people reading this thread watching you guys spin yiur wheels in a vain search of a Biblical example of when God gathered Israel after scattering their disobedient butts without them first having repented - and the inconsistency in asserting God had anything to to with 1948 concerning a people who to this day call Jesus “Son of a Whore”.

THE KHAZARS HIJACKED JUDAISM SO OF COURSE THEY CO-OPTED THE LANGUAGE, CUSTOMS, ETC. :)
rubbish conspiracy theory.

The Khazars are not so stupid that they would have pretended to be Jews in nazi europe.

Israel is a nation therefore they are there by God's will ... don't be dull.
 
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The Khazarian Empire hijacking of Judaism took place around ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
Debunked!!! Where have you been?! This is old,old,old fake news. Wake up man! It's been debunked! No such thing! smh



That’s plenty of time for the post-1,500 year descendants of the pagan Khazarian Empire to be fully invested in an identity that was stolen by their ancestors, and any thinking person can understand that.

Over 6 million innocent JEWS lost their lives horrifically in the Holocaust. Their business were destroyed and burned to the ground, because they were JEWS, they were put into ghettos because they were JEWS, they were loaded into trains and shipped to concentration camps because they were JEWS. They were separated from loved ones, stripped and degraded, because they were JEWS, they were tortured, poisoned, experimented on and gassed because they were JEWS !! Hitler tried to wipe them out because they were JEWS!! Do not tell us now they aren't "pure" enough to inherit the land. Outright anti- Semitic nonsense, using the Bible !! No! I will not stand by while this nonsense is being spewed.
 
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you've couched your thread in antisemetism and demanded a narrow answer to one of two instances of being carried away either to Babylon or Assyria, but the real question here is the same one of the book of Job, whether blessing & calamity are direct results of sin and righteousness -- and you have chosen the answer of Eliphaz, Bildad & Zophar, saying that Israel cannot be Israel because God never materially blesses the unrepentant or shows kindness to sinners.
this is wrong. God rebuked these men; He shows mercy to whom He will show mercy.


the sojourning of the people in Egypt is the sojourning of the people in Babylon, yes. it is the same. He treats Israel as his wife, Ephraim as His son, and these things are the same as the Levite who went to speak kindly to his wife in Judges 19:1-3 -- which is the same as Christ coming to pitch His tent among a people who reject the light. it is the same as king Josiah being prophesied and appearing, taking the throne among an idolatrous people who forsook God, and reforming them. the people did not tear their own high places down and take their own idols out of the temple and only then was Josiah sent, but Josiah was sent and did these things.

the people were cursing God, saying He only brought them out of Egypt in order to murder them in the wilderness, when He parted the Sea of Reeds. the people were cursing God, saying He only brought them out of Egypt to murder them, their children, and their animals when He gave them manna.

you said, the people were captives in Egypt for their good, as though this wasn't the case in Babylon. but God says the Babylonian captivity was for their good:

Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel: ‘Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge those who are carried away captive from Judah, whom I have sent out of this place for their own good, into the land of the Chaldeans. For I will set My eyes on them for good, and I will bring them back to this land; I will build them and not pull them down, and I will plant them and not pluck them up. Then I will give them a heart to know Me, that I am the LORD; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God, for they shall return to Me with their whole heart.'
(Jeremiah 24:5-7)
in fact ((see rest of chapter)) He says the people who were not scattered, are the bad figs, accursed. and look who it was who gave them a heart to know God? God Himself, not them themselves. it was not they who repented and caused God to change His judgement, but God who appointed their season of sojourning and who turned their hearts Himself.

your premise here is that Israel is not Israel because Israel is still blinded, fulfilling the Word which was spoken through Isaiah, until the bringing in of the Gentiles is complete. but these are His own appointed times and His own chosen people -- they were not brought out of Babylon because of their 'sovereign-free-will-choice' but because God appointed the years of their captivity, because God gave them a heart to know Him, and because God brought about both their sojourning and their gathering:

For thus says the LORD: After seventy years are completed at Babylon, I will visit you and perform My good word toward you, and cause you to return to this place. For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. I will be found by you, says the LORD, and I will bring you back from your captivity; I will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you, says the LORD, and I will bring you to the place from which I cause you to be carried away captive.
(Jeremiah 29:10-14)
seventy years. according to the Word of the LORD, not according to the whim of the people. according to the sovereign decree of God, not the sovereign will of man. He appointed the time of the people's exile & suffering in Egypt, and He appointed the time of their exile & suffering in Babylon, and He appointed the time of Job's suffering, and He appointed the time of yours and mine.

Eliphaz, Bildad, Zophar & Phoneman say if you are blessed you have been righteous, and if you have trouble you have sinned. you say, God does not bless His people and give them a home, a land, and a name, unless they are holy. you say, Israel is not Israel because Israel does not do the works you want to see them doing. but God says He creates the light and forms the darkness, brings goodness and calamity, and appoints the time and the seasons. God says He reveals Himself to a people who did not look for Him, that He comes to save sinners, to bind up the broken hearted and heal the sick, not the well.

you act like no one prayed in Auschwitz.
Sorry, I don’t read miniature novels and I avoid writing them, as well. If you can’t make your point in a few sentences, try breaking it up in a few posts.

The truth is you can’t point to an instance when God gathered Israel after scattering them for disobedience without them first having repented — but over and over, we read where “Israel unto the Lord and He sent a deliverer”.

Unlike the people who now occupy a tiny speck of the ancient land of Israel who refer to Jesus as the Great Imposter.
 
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rubbish conspiracy theory.

The Khazars are not so stupid that they would have pretended to be Jews in nazi europe.

Israel is a nation therefore they are there by God's will ... don't be dull.
It only took a little over a hundred years to convince millions of black people that they are the true Israelites - the Black Hebrew Israelite Movement. The Khazars had around ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED to convince their people. ;)
 

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It only took a little over a hundred years to convince millions of black people that they are the true Israelites - the Black Hebrew Israelite Movement. The Khazars had around ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED to convince their people.
... of course the Khazars repented ...
 
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You have been given the answer by several here!! There will be repentance, no one here has said otherwise! You have been answered at length and you ignore it. I said '48 is the beginning of gathering. There will be repentance. Yet you blather on with the same question which has been answered here a dozen times! What you're "preaching" is false doctrine. You've been proven wrong with Scripture, yet you insist you're right. So why bother?! You think you're right no matter what anyone says or shows you in Scripture. Israel is the nation that was born in a day, you can hate the Jews and keep spewing made up purity tests. God said they are the apple of His eye. Period.
God demands their repentance before the gathering begins, right? Please read the “if/when” condition of 2Chr. 7 and you’ll see that. Seriously, y’all just make it up as you go and aren’t bothered in the least by it? :sneaky:
 
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Debunked!!! Where have you been?! This is old,old,old fake news. Wake up man! It's been debunked! No such thing! smh






Over 6 million innocent JEWS lost their lives horrifically in the Holocaust. Their business were destroyed and burned to the ground, because they were JEWS, they were put into ghettos because they were JEWS, they were loaded into trains and shipped to concentration camps because they were JEWS. They were separated from loved ones, stripped and degraded, because they were JEWS, they were tortured, poisoned, experimented on and gassed because they were JEWS !! Hitler tried to wipe them out because they were JEWS!! Do not tell us now they aren't "pure" enough to inherit the land. Outright anti- Semitic nonsense, using the Bible !! No! I will not stand by while this nonsense is being spewed.
Debunked by WHO? Oh...the same people who are fleecing duped Christians who think they have to send them their money and support? :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:

“And IF ye be Christ’s, THEN are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.” Galatians 3:29 KJV

“Peace...upon the Israel of God (who walk according to the rule of the New Creature in Christ Jesus.) Galatians 6:15-16 KJV
 
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Yeah I think that's part of the problem.

The Bible is a pretty long book.
Nice selective editing of my post. But, hey, y’all need cheering up, so enjoy a laugh at my expense...it ain’t everyday y’all discover your OSAS faith is built upon a doctrine of devils.
 
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How can you pretend no one has answered you when you refuse to read the answers?

You're being disgusting.
How can you continue to ignore the challenge? I’m not interested in paragraph after paragraph of pseudo-scholarship - just post the chapter and verse, please.

Still waiting...
 

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What you have done is christianized biblical prophecy which so many do not knowing hebrew wording.
You have spiritualized that you do not see and understand.
Many of the church teaching fall into this trap.
do you consider Paul to have done that ? I’ve heard of those who insist Paul is a heretic because of his revelations of prophecy I’m not saying you do think that but do you ?
 

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No, you're not waiting. I already gave you a reply and I'm not the only one. This is no game, this is the Word of God and you are twisting it to say something it doesn't. Don't try to walk up on me and try to intimidate with your foolishness. You're peddling the age old replacement theology that came straight out of the Catholic church, which they repented of after the Holocaust. I read up on this for years. I know what you're peddling.
The unbelieving Jews will need to be grafted back in again after they repent of their unbelief.

Romans
11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed] lest he also spare not thee.
11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural [branches], be graffed into their own olive tree?
 

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How can you pretend no one has answered you when you refuse to read the answers?

You're being disgusting.
@Phoneman-777 was correct in asserting that you pulled a selective editing trick on him. It is a very bad habit. We must help each other overcome the temptation to do it.
 

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@Phoneman-777 was correct in asserting that you pulled a selective editing trick on him. It is a very bad habit. We must help each other overcome the temptation to do it.
i did. but the substance of the reply that i received from him, and quoted, is that he did not bother reading my post. so i thought, i am not misrepresenting him, and it is in fact his express wish that i minimize words, so i am both accommodating him & not making it appear that he has said something he hasn't.
with respect to my conversation with him, he stated that he doesn't read it, because his attention span is insufficient. so i also thought, it is valid to imply the question of whether he even reads scripture, considering how much of it there is in comparison to the few paragraphs i wrote to him.