WHEN IS THE RAPTURE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE GT?
- Thread starter Absolutely
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
It was kept a mystery from the twelve and everyone else because if man knew then Satan would have known. If Satan knew the outcome of the cross would lead to his defeat, he wouldn’t have allowed it to happen. Satan thought he was gain8ng the victory by killing the promised seed.
1 Corinthians 2
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1 Corinthians 2
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
-
1
- Show all
Maybe you OR ANYONE can explain to me how we go from this
Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Ephesians 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Ephesians 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish
To this, the "ruptured" church, AS she is DESCRIBED BY CHRIST (and for those who say it was on the church through the dispensations, take a look again, all these things are going on today)
thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works or else
I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.
Repent; or else
I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols
And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die:
for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent.
If therefore thou shalt not watch,
I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee
(and to whom does He come as a thief in the night? Those who have been deceived or don't know any better)
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot I would thou wert cold or hot.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth
Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HE THAT HATH AN EAR, HEAR
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches
Revelation 2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
NOW WE ARE GIVEN WHAT THOSE WHO OVERCOME RECEIVE
will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
shall not be hurt of the second death.
will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations
And he shall rule them with a rod of iron as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
And I will give him the morning star.
the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white for they are worthy.
These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
I know thy works behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Behold, I come quickly hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Ephesians 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Ephesians 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish
To this, the "ruptured" church, AS she is DESCRIBED BY CHRIST (and for those who say it was on the church through the dispensations, take a look again, all these things are going on today)
thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works or else
I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate.
Repent; or else
I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols
And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not
Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.
And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die:
for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent.
If therefore thou shalt not watch,
I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee
(and to whom does He come as a thief in the night? Those who have been deceived or don't know any better)
I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot I would thou wert cold or hot.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth
Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HE THAT HATH AN EAR, HEAR
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches
Revelation 2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
NOW WE ARE GIVEN WHAT THOSE WHO OVERCOME RECEIVE
will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
shall not be hurt of the second death.
will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations
And he shall rule them with a rod of iron as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
And I will give him the morning star.
the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white for they are worthy.
These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
I know thy works behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Behold, I come quickly hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
BUT God did. There is nothing hidden from us today. It is GODS WORD. For us, as given by Him foretelling us all things.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.