When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect?

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Hizikyah

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When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect? I would like to use Scripture to show the timeline. Anyone who agrees or disagrees is welcome to give your view, I ask that Scripture is also used to supplement it. Thank you!

2 Timothy 2:15, “Study to show yourself approved to YHWH: a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is righteous.”

Hosea 4:6, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me..”

There are many things we are told that we willingly accept without studying to see if they are true or not. The apostle Paul told us to do our homework and YHWH told us if we do not do our homework we will get destruction. Scripture is Scripture and truth is truth. Today I want to focus on a very simple truth that nearly the whole world has got very, very wrong.

When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect?

Now most people already are thinking “I know the answer to this I don’t need to study this.” If you think this you may be the person this was meant for. So the first thing we must understand is what makes up a day. A day is a 24 hour period, but it is not midnight to midnight. That is the Gregorian (Roman) calendar that has only been in use since 1582, enacted by Pope Gregory XIII and was a reform of the Julian calendar. It is based on solar cycles and has its origins in Greek, Egyptian, and Babylonian history; all these are in opposition to YHWH and His calendar. To understand what a day consists of according to the Creator of all that is, we need to look at a few verses;

Berĕshith/Genesis 1:5, " And Yah called the light ‘day’ and the darkness He called ‘night.’ And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the first day."

Exodus 12:18, "In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, in the evening, you shall eat unleavened bread until the twenty-first day of the month in the evening."

Leviticus 23:32, "It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”

"evening" is word # H6153. ereb - Strong's Concordance: ereb: evening, Original Word: עָ֫רֶב, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: ereb, Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-reb), Short Definition: evening

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) -
1) evening, night, sunset, 1a) evening, sunset, 1b) night
By the Creator’s calendar the days begin and end when the sun goes down, not at “12 midnight.” Thus 1 day is sunset to sunset. An interesting side note is the day “April fools,” this day got its name in France, there were people who still kept the Creator’s calendar and not the Roman calendar. The Creator’s year starts and ends around April (not what we call New Year’s Eve, which is actually Saturnalia, the pagan worship of Saturn), so the people who still kept the true calendar were called fools, and eventually this turned into April Fools Day, how nice?) So I know the Creator’s calendar takes a little getting used to, as we have kept a different calendar all our lives. But this is the first step to understand when the Messiah was put in the grave and when He resurrected. I am going to use the illustrations below to depict YHWH’s days; first night, then day.

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Leviticus 23:32, "It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”

Now there is a rabbinical/Pharisaic teaching that says any part of a day can be reckoned as a day. Fist off this is not based in Scripture but made up by man, the same types that Yahshua/Jesus said rejected Yah for their own tradition;

Mat 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them; And why do you transgress the Laws of YHWH by your traditions?"

I find it odd that many Christians use the rabbinical/Pharisaic reckoning of a day to prove their Resurrection timeline as they were opponents of the Messiah and they were not based in Biblical truth but man made traditions. So again, according to YHWH Creator of the Heavens and Earth, a day is sunset to sunset. It is also worth pointing out that Yahshua/Jesus said;

Mat 12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

Mat 12:39-40, “But He answering, said to them, “A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Yonah. For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of the great fish, so shall the Son of Aḏam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

So it is the only sign of the true Messiah and He said, “three days and three nights” I don’t see how Yahshua could have gotten this wrong or used the rabbinical reckoning of a day when He spoke against nearly everything they did, especially their tradition that “nullified” the ways of the Creator. So with this in mind lets consider what is commonly accepted a “Good Friday to Easter Sunday” Resurrection;

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But there is one problem with this view that is most commonly taught, “Good Friday to Easter Sunday” resurrection, by the words of the Messiah Himself this can not be true;

Mat12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

There is no possible way to get three days and three nights out of Friday to Sunday. It is 2 nights and one day at most. Most people, myself included are so used to the Roman calendar that it is hard to understand the Creator’s calendar and so it is confusing. I had to go over it a few times to get it myself. For it to be three days and three nights the Messiah would have had to resurrect on Monday right before the sun went down, scripture shows us this did not happen that way either. So when one realizes that Fri-Sun is not possible, a few questions arise; Where does Easter Sunday come from? If the Messiah did not resurrect on Sunday, why are we told the Sabbath has been changed to Sunday, to honor the resurrection? But before we get to that, lets study this out.
 

Hizikyah

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John 13:1, “And before the Festival of the Passover, יהושע knowing that His hour had come that He should move out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.” TS 2009

John 13:1, “Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.” ESV

John 19:31, “Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.” TS 2009

John 19:31, “Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” NKJV

John 19:31, ‘The Jews therefore, because it was the Preparation, that the bodies should not remain on the cross upon the sabbath (for the day of that sabbath was a high day)” ASV

John 19:31, ‘Since it was the day of Preparation, and so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” ESV

John 19:31, “Then the Jews, because it was the day of preparation, so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” NASU

Mark 15:42, “15:42, "And when evening had come, because it was the Preparation Day, that is, the day before the Sabbath.” TS 2009

Mark 15:42, "And when evening had come, since it was the day of Preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath," ESV

Mark 15:42, "And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath," RNKJV

Mark 15:42, "And now evening having come, seeing it was the preparation, that is, the fore-sabbath," YLT

Most people read this and say, “well Sabbath is Saturday, so this had to be Friday.” But notice the scriptures say “High Holy Day Sabbath” or “for that Sabbath was a high day

What is a “High Holy Day Sabbath” or “for that Sabbath was a high day”?

Leviticus 23:24 & 32, “Speak to the children of Israyl, saying; In the Seventh Moon (or month), on the First (day) of the Moon, you shall have a Sabbath, a Memorial of Blowing of Trumpets; The Feast of Trumpets, a Holy Convocation.” 32, “It is to you a Sabbath of rest, and you shall afflict yourselves. On the Ninth (day) of the Moon at evening; at the setting of the sun, through the Tenth of the Moon at evening; at the setting of the sun, from evening until evening, you shall celebrate your Sabbath.”

These are the “High Holy Day Sabbath(s)” or “for that Sabbath was a high day(s)”, unlike weekly Sabbaths these Days can fall on any day of the week, where the weekly Sabbath is on the 7th day only. So the day Yahshua got sacrificed was the day before a Sabbath Day, and Scripture clearly shows us it was a High Sabbath and because High Sabbaths can fall on any day, this shows us that it did not have to be a Friday when Yahshua was Sacrificed. We don’t know the day of the week but we do know it was “”

However this in itself does not tell us what day it is or is not. So we must continue.

John 19:14, "And it was the Preparation Day of the Pĕsaḥ week, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Yehuḏim, “See your Sovereign!” TS 2009

John 19:14, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and as it were the sixth hour, and he saith to the Jews, 'Lo, your king!‘ YLT

John 19:14, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!” KJV

John 19:14, “It was the day of Preparation of Passover Week, about the sixth hour. "Here is your king," Pilate said to the Jews.”
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John 19:14, “Now it was the day of Preparation for the Passover, and it was about the sixth hour (about twelve o'clock noon). He said to the Jews, See, [here is] your King!” AMP

John 19:14-18, “And it was the Preparation Day of the Pĕsaḥ week, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Yehuḏim, “See your Sovereign! But they shouted, “Away, away, impale Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I impale your Sovereign?” The chief priests answered, “We have no sovereign except Caesar! At that time, then, he delivered Him to them to be impaled. And they took יהושע and led Him away. And bearing His stake, He went out to the so-called Place of a Skull, which is called in Hebrew, Golgotha, where they impaled Him, and two others with Him, one on this side and one on that side, and יהושע in the middle.” TS 2009

John 19:14-18, “Now it was the day of Preparation of the Passover. It was about the sixth hour. He said to the Jews, “Behold your King! They cried out, “Away with him, away with him, crucify him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar. So he delivered him over to them to be crucified. So they took Jesus, and he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called The Place of a Skull, which in Aramaic is called Golgotha. There they crucified him, and with him two others, one on either side, and Jesus between them.” ESV

John 13:1, “Andbefore the Festival of the Passover, יהושע knowing that His hour had come that He should move out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.” TS 2009

John 13:1, “Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.” ESV

So according to Scripture Yahshua was sacrificed the day before Passover and that “Preparation Day” is the day the Passover Lamb (aka Yahshua) was to be killed;

Leviticus 23:5, “On the Fourteenth of the First Moon, between the two evenings, YHWH's Passover Sacrifice is to be killed.”

That day is the 14th of the first moon or first month, and that is according to YHWH’s calendar not the world’s calendar. The 14th of the first moon or month falls on a different day of the week each year. It is based on the sighting of the new moon so there is no way to make a calendar before, one must wait until the sighting of the new moon.

Mat 27:46-50, “And about the ninth hour (3pm)יהושע cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Yli, Yli, lemah sheḇaqtani?” that is, “My Strength, My Strength, why have You forsaken Me? Some of those standing there, having heard, said, “This One calls Yliyahu! And immediately one of them ran and took a sponge, and filled it with sour wine and put it on a reed, and gave it to Him to drink. But the rest said, “Leave it, let us see if Ĕliyahu comes to save Him. And יהושע cried out again with a loud voice, and gave up His spirit.”

Mark 15:34, “And at the ninth hour (3pm) יהושע cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Yli, Yli, lamah sheḇaqtani?” which is translated, “My Strength, My Strength, why have You forsaken Me?”

Luke 23:44-46, “And it was now about the sixth hour (12noon), and darkness came over all the land, until the ninth hour (3pm). And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the Dwelling Place was torn in two. And crying out with a loud voice, יהושע said, “Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit.” And having said this, He breathed His last.”

Mattithyah12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

John 19:14-15, “And it was the Preparation Day of the Passover week, and about the sixth hour. And he said to the Yehuḏim, “See your Sovereign! But they shouted, “Away, away, impale Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I impale your Sovereign?” The chief priests answered, “We have no sovereign except Caesar!”

John 19:31, “Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.”

Luke 23:52-54, "he, going to Pilate, asked for the body of יהושע. Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb that was hewn out of the rock, where no one had ever lain before. That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near."

So by this time Yahshua has been Sacrificed, His body wrapped and taken to the tomb, yet it is still not yet sundown, but “That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near” and remember it is not the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day weekly Sabbath;

John 19:31, “Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one...”

John 19:42, “There, then, because of the Preparation Day of the Yehuḏim, they laid יהושע, because the tomb was near.”

Mat 27:59-66, “And having taken the body, Yosĕph wrapped it in clean linen, and laid it in his new tomb which he had hewn out of the rock. And he rolled a large stone against the door of the tomb, and went away. And Miryam from Maḡdala was there, and the other Miryam, sitting opposite the tomb. On the next day, which was after the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees gathered together to Pilate, saying, “Master, we remember, while He was still alive, how that deceiver said, ‘After three days I am raised. Command, then, that the tomb be safeguarded until the third day, lest His taught ones come by night and steal Him away, and should say to the people, ‘He was raised from the dead.’ And the last deception shall be worse than the first. So Pilate said to them, “You have a watch, go, safeguard it as you know how. And they went and safeguarded the tomb, sealing the stone and setting the watch.”

So it is the day after the Preparation (High Sabbath) and the chief priests and Pharisees asked Pilate, saying, “Master, we remember, while He was still alive, how that deceiver said, ‘After three days I am raised. Command, then, that the tomb be safeguarded until the third day.”

Mark 16:1, "And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him."

Luke 23:56, “And having returned, they prepared spices and perfumes. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the command.”

The women prepare “spices and perfumes” and “rested on the Sabbath according to the command”

Mark 16:1-2, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen.”

Here we see the women going to His tomb after the Sabbath day, this is the weekly 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day Sabbath, as there is no distinction that it is a High Sabbath and it also say they arrived “very early on the first day of the week” (Sunday).

Mat 12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

Luke 24:1, “And on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared.”

John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”

So remember the Creator’s days do not start and end at 12 midnight, but sundown, so the weekly Sabbath (Friday sundown to Saturday sundown) was over they arrived “on the first day of the week” “while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb” So when the sun goes down on the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day they go to sleep, wake up early and go to the tomb to find that Yahshua is already gone. So if He was put in the tomb before sundown on the Preparation Day. Was in the tomb three days and three nights, as He said was the only true sign of the Messiah. The women show up on the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day of the week before sunrise and He is already gone. We have to calculate three days and three nights, sundown to sundown from the time He was Sacrificed and the put in the tomb; before sundown on the Preparation Day.

Luke 23:53, “And taking it down, he wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb hewn out of the rock, where no one was yet laid. And it was Preparation day, and the Sabbath was approaching.”

The day after the Preparation day, the day that the Passover Sacrifice (Yahshua) is to be killed, is the first day of “the Festival of Unleavened Bread” and this is a rest day; “On the first day you have a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work

Leviticus 23:5-7, “On the Fourteenth of the First Moon, between the two evenings, YHWH's Passover Sacrifice is to be killed. And on the fifteenth day of this new moon is the Festival of Unleavened Bread to יהוה – seven days you eat unleavened bread. On the first day you have a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work.”

When we consider all the Scriptural facts, I know it is a lot, but when we include all of the proof. Including His statement of 3 days and 3 nights, the Creator’s way, not measured by rabbinic or pharisee calculation; We have Yahshua Sacrificed on the Preparation Day and placed in the tomb before sundown, a rest day on the first Day of Unleavened Bread (1st full day sundown to sundown), the second full day (2nd full day sundown to sundown), then the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day weekly Sabbath (3rd full day sundown to sundown). We are only left with one possibility;

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This is three days and three nights exactly. This is the timeline of Yahshua’s sacrifice and resurrection. It is very simple to understand but our minds have been bombarded with so many lies the truth seems to have been lost from most believers. If you are reading this it may be that you are one that is to be pulled out of mystery Babylon by YHWH. Also if this information is new to you, I have to respectfully say you need to do much study as if you were misled on something this basic what else have you been misled about. I also want to firmly say anyone (pastor, preacher, etc.) who teaches Good Friday to Easter Sunday is not teaching YHWH’s truth, but is teaching lies, and we know who lies come from.

Mat 12:39-40, “But He answering, said to them, “A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Yonah. For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of the great fish, so shall the Son of Aḏam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

John 13:1, “And before the Festival of the Passover, יהושע knowing that His hour had come that He should move out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.”

Leviticus 23:5, “On the Fourteenth of the First Moon, between the two evenings, YHWH's Passover Sacrifice is to be killed.”

1 Corinthians 5:7-8, “Therefore, purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new batch, since you are unleavened. For truly Yahshua our Passover was sacrificed for us. Therefore, let us keep the Feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.”

John 20:17, "יהושע said to her, “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My Strength and your Strength.”

Why is it when Mary/Miryam tries to touch Yahshua He says: “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father”

John 20:18, "Miryam from Maḡdala came announcing to the taught ones that she had seen the Master, and that He had told her this."

Then Miryam leaves Yahshua and goes and tells the disciples what happened, leaving Yahshua alone.

John 20:24-27, "But T’oma (Thomas), called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when יהושע came, so the other disciples said to him, “We have seen the Master.” But he said to them, “Unless I see in His hands the mark of the nails, and put my finger into the imprint of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I shall by no means believe. And after eight days His taught ones were again inside, and T’oma with them. יהושע came, the doors having been shut, and He stood in the midst, and said, “Peace to you! Then He said to T’oma, “Bring your finger here, and see My hands. And bring your hand and put it into My side – and do not be unbelieving, but believing.”

Here, eight days later, He tells T’oma to touch Him, but when Miryam tried to touch Him He did not allow her. Why could Miriam not touch Him but Thomas could? What happened between this time period of these 2 incidents?

The reason for this is understood in something called the Fest of Firstfruits. It is one of the Moadim or Feast Days of YHWH. In which the entire woks of Messiah from His Sacrifice and Resurrection to His return as the conquering Lion and Rulership over all is laid out in perfect prophetic shadow pictures.

1 Corinthians 15:20-23, “But now Messiah has been raised from the dead, and has become the first-fruit of those having fallen asleep. For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a Man. For as all die in Aḏam, so also all shall be made alive in Messiah . And each in his own order: Messiah the first-fruits, then those who are of Messiah at His coming,”

first-fruits” is word #G536 - ἀπαρχή aparche: the beginning of a sacrifice, i.e. the first fruit, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine - Transliteration: aparché - Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ar-khay') - Short Definition: the first-fruits, Definition: the first-fruits, the earliest crop of the year, hence also met., for example, of the earliest converts in a district; there is evidence in favor of rendering in some passages merely by: sacrifice, gift.

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) to offer firstlings or firstfruits, 2) to take away the firstfruits of the productions of the earth which was offered to God. The first portion of the dough, from which sacred loaves were to be prepared. Hence term used of persons consecrated to God for all time, 3) persons superior in excellence to others of the same class

Leviticus 23:10-11, “to the children of Yisra’ĕl, and you shall say to them, ‘When you come into the land which I give you, and shall reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before יהוה, for your acceptance. On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it."

In the Fest of First-Fruits the Priest “On the morrow after the Sabbath the priest waves it

That is why when the women came to the tomb;

John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”

Yahshua did not let Himself be touched;

John 20:17, "יהושע said to her, “Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My Strength and your Strength.”

He had not yet ascended to YHWH to present Himself as the First-Fruits to YHWH;

Leviticus 23:10-11, “...the first-fruits of your harvest to the priest. And he shall wave the sheaf before יהוה, for your acceptance...

Ephesians 4:9-10, “But what does “He went up” mean, except that He also first went down into the lower parts of the earth? He who went down is also the One who went up far above all the heavens, to fill all.”

John 3:10-13, "יהושע answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Yisra’yl, and do not know this? Truly, truly, I say to you, We speak what We know and witness what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. If you do not believe when I spoke to you about earthly matters, how are you going to believe when I speak to you about the heavenly matters? And no one has gone up into the heaven except He who came down from the heaven – the Son of Aḏam.”

Colossians 1:15, "He is the image of the invisible Father, the firstborn of all creation."

Colossians 1:18, "For He is the Head of the body, the called out ones, Who is the beginning of the firstborn from the dead, so that in all things He may have the pre-eminence."

Revelation 1:5, "And from Yahshua Messiah, the faithful witness, and the firstborn from the dead, and the Ruler of future kings of the earth. To Him Who loved us and freed us from our sins by His own blood."

Leviticus 23:17, “Bring from your dwellings for a wave offering two loaves of bread, of two-tenths of an ĕphah of fine flour they are, baked with leaven, first-fruits to יהוה.”

first-fruits” is word #H1061 בִּכּוּר bikkuwr (bik-koor') n-m., the first-fruits of the crop., [from H1069], KJV: first fruit (-ripe (figuratively)), hasty fruit., Root(s): H1069

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Ephesians 1:4, "Because He chose us with Him before the foundation of the world, that we were to be holy and without blame before Him in love;"

Now most of the modern religious world is completely ignorant of not only YHWH’s calendar but also of His Feast Days which are prophetic shadow pictures. Thing is, it is irrelevant if we know recognize these things, understand these things, or even care about the things, because YHWH’s will is going to be done, according to His plan and His time. If we are aware or not it is still going to happen.

There are 2 "it is done" statements...

Fulfilled already
John 19:30, “So when יהושע took the sour wine He said, “It is done!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.”

Fulfilled already- To be fulfilled in the future

1. Passover/First-fruits – Yahshua's Sacrifice (Passover), burial and resurrection (First Fruits)
2. Feast of Unleavened Bread – Removal of sin by Yahshua's perfect work as the Passover Sacrifice
3. Feast of Weeks – The blessing Holy Spirit of YHWH, coming into our lives stronger than ever

4. Feast of Trumpets – Yahshua's return and gathering of the Saints
5. Day of Atonement – Yahshua leads the army of YHWH to destroy evil rulers of this world and satan is chained for 1,000 years
6. Feast of Tabernacles – Yahshua dwells on earth for 1,000 years teaching truth and righteousness
7. The Last Great Day – satan is loosed and swiftly destroyed, the Kingdom of YHWH reigns forever


To be fulfilled in the future
Revelation 21:4-8, “And Yah shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying. And there shall be no more pain, for the former matters have passed away. And He who was sitting on the throne said, “See, I make all matters new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and trustworthy. And He said to me, “It is done! I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I shall give of the fountain of the water of life without payment. The one who overcomes shall inherit all this, and I shall be his Strength and he shall be My son. But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”
 

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CrucifixionTimeline.jpg
Crucifixion Timeline
 

Magenta

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Nice chart! Thank you! praiseYah!
Thank you, and Amen! :) I have long stood for the crucifixion being on a Wednesday. I must admit it can get quite confusing when the gospel writers frame their witness using different methods of timekeeping. A comprehensive image comes in handy at such times :D
 

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Thank you, and Amen! :) I have long stood for the crucifixion being on a Wednesday. I must admit it can get quite confusing when the gospel writers frame their witness using different methods of timekeeping. A comprehensive image comes in handy at such times :D
I know! I prayed and studied for a week when I originally saw evidence of Wed-Sat D B R.

Philippians 2:1-2, "2:1, "If, then, there is any encouragement in Messiah, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of Spirit, if any affection and compassion make my joy complete by being of the same mind, having the same love, one in being and of purpose,"


Psalm 95:3, “For יהוה is a great Strength, and a great Sovereign above all mighty ones.”
 

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Interesting and very convincing evidence! Except, my understanding is that the Jews considered any part of a day, even an hour, a "day." In fact, an Orthodox Jew was the one who told me this!

I am not going to comment anymore but pray and re-read. And, I will probably still observe the same days, at least with as regards to the church I attend. So, are we to celebrate "Good Wednesday, instead?" Or just the Resurrection?
 

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Interesting and very convincing evidence! Except, my understanding is that the Jews considered any part of a day, even an hour, a "day." In fact, an Orthodox Jew was the one who told me this!

I am not going to comment anymore but pray and re-read. And, I will probably still observe the same days, at least with as regards to the church I attend. So, are we to celebrate "Good Wednesday, instead?" Or just the Resurrection?
Yes so I touched on this mattr briefly, yes so it is actually rabinnical time reckoningthat says anypart of a day is reckoned as a day. Not Yah, see these pharisee types made their own ways/laws in this matter just like all other matters, they said any part of a day was considered a whole day so they could "keep" sabbath for part of a day and claim they had kept it, white washed sepulchers indeed! I used to have much more info on their false time reckoning, I still have the resources by Im not sure where it is, it has been over 4 years since I studi this, I just got on a mission today!
 

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I know! I prayed and studied for a week when I originally saw evidence of Wed-Sat D B R.

Philippians 2:1-2, "2:1, "If, then, there is any encouragement in Messiah, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of Spirit, if any affection and compassion make my joy complete by being of the same mind, having the same love, one in being and of purpose,"


Psalm 95:3, “For יהוה is a great Strength, and a great Sovereign above all mighty ones.”
I still remember 20 years ago when I learned this truth. At the time nobody in our world cared so for me it was like "Hey, Look what God has just shown me" and then the sound of Crickets. LOL

Very thorough study Hizikyah, thanks for sharing :)
 

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So did you study this out yourself? or look at what I have presented?

Because I clicked on this article and the title is:

"If Jesus was crucified on the Day of Preparation, why had He already eaten the Passover meal?"

He didn't. He would have been "eating Passover" 1 day early, and He is the Passover, Yahshua fulfilled the first 3 of the 7 prophetic Feast days of YHWH already, Passover being the first one. He can't change the timing of Yah's prophecy, He fulfilled it.

Also can you get 3 days and 3 nights from Friday to Sunday?

Mat 12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”
 

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The second link summarizes what I thought before I started reading this thread!

In the grand scheme of things, it is not all that important to know what day of the week Christ was crucified. If it were very important, then God's Word would have clearly communicated the day and timeframe. What is important is that He did die and that He physically, bodily rose from the dead. What is equally important is the reason He died—to take the punishment that all sinners deserve. John 3:16 and 3:36 both proclaim that putting your trust in Him results in eternal life! This is equally true whether He was crucified on a Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday.
 

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The second link summarizes what I thought before I started reading this thread!
I used to also think similar until I realized all the changes that came from this, if "Good Friday to Easter Sunday" is not based in Biblical fact, then why is it celebrated? This made me pray and study more! and it is important if changes are made to the worship of the Creator because of a misunderstanding.

John 4:24, “Yah is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship in spirit and truth.”

Psalm 119:11, “I have treasured up Your word in my heart, That I might not sin against You.”

Psalm 119:160, “The sum of Your word is truth, And all Your righteous right-rulings are forever.”

John /Yahanan 17:17, “Set them apart in Your truth – Your Word is truth.”

Ephesians 6:17, “Take also the helmet of deliverance, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of Yah.”
 

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I can see the sabbath being Saturday, but isn't the reason that we worship on Sunday because it's the 8th day which is the day of circumcision and the belonging to Israel?

7 is sabbath rest. 8 is new life. Flesh cut off.

Am I wrong?
 

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So did you study this out yourself? or look at what I have presented?

Because I clicked on this article and the title is:

"If Jesus was crucified on the Day of Preparation, why had He already eaten the Passover meal?"

He didn't. He would have been "eating Passover" 1 day early, and He is the Passover, Yahshua fulfilled the first 3 of the 7 prophetic Feast days of YHWH already, Passover being the first one. He can't change the timing of Yah's prophecy, He fulfilled it.

Also can you get 3 days and 3 nights from Friday to Sunday?

Mat 12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

Hi Hizikyah,

Yes I have, a long long time ago. In fact its nothing new. This topic has been discussed, debated,fought over etc etc ad infinitum.

Again nothing new here. And the day is not important. There are difficulties no matter what way you look at it. We celebrate good friday as a remembrance to Christ suffering and dying on the cross and we celebrate on Sunday as His resurrection. No problem... In fact we meet on the first day to break bread in remembrance of Christ just like the NT christians did.

One thing we need to be careful of is that if there are any misunderstandings it is our misunderstandings and not the scriptural witness. Days aren't important to me.. each day is Holy ;)
 

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I can see the sabbath being Saturday, but isn't the reason that we worship on Sunday because it's the 8th day which is the day of circumcision and the belonging to Israel?

7 is sabbath rest. 8 is new life. Flesh cut off.

Am I wrong?
I have never read anyhing in the Scripture say that, nor anything making the 1st day (Sunday) any kind of Special day. Growing up I was told Sunday was the Lord's Days because He resurrected that day, however when I studied it for myself I found He resurrected near sundown Sabbath (7th day) and presentedHimself as THE Firstfruits to Yah "the morrow after the Sabbath", post #3 goes a little more into detail concering the Firstfruits, but Paul understood it; Honestlyt if one thiks the Feast Daysshould be celebrated or not is not my point here, but I believe they should be understood, because it's YHWH's prophecy that the Messiah fulfills! It all the works of Messiah tld by Scripture/YHWH... rather than by bunnies and eggs!

1 Corinthians 15:20-23, “But now Messiah has been raised from the dead, and has become the first-fruit of those having fallen asleep. For since death is through a man, resurrection of the dead is also through a Man. For as all die in Aḏam, so also all shall be made alive in Messiah . And each in his own order: Messiah the first-fruits, then those who are of Messiah at His coming,”
 

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Hi Hizikyah,

Yes I have, a long long time ago. In fact its nothing new. This topic has been discussed, debated,fought over etc etc ad infinitum.

Again nothing new here. And the day is not important. There are difficulties no matter what way you look at it. We celebrate good friday as a remembrance to Christ suffering and dying on the cross and we celebrate on Sunday as His resurrection. No problem... In fact we meet on the first day to break bread in remembrance of Christ just like the NT christians did.

One thing we need to be careful of is that if there are any misunderstandings it is our misunderstandings and not the scriptural witness. Days aren't important to me.. each day is Holy ;)
Except truth does matter, and while we should do Yah's will every day. With that said this is not a Sabbath thread but rather a what is the truth Scriptually concerning the death, burial and resurrection of Yahshua the Messiah/Jesus the Christ.
 

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Except truth does matter, and while we should do Yah's will every day. With that said this is not a Sabbath thread but rather a what is the truth Scriptually concerning the death, burial and resurrection of Yahshua the Messiah/Jesus the Christ.

Hi Hizikyah,

Yes truth matters, and as I pointed out your version may not be the 'truthful' one. I have to admit I just skimmed through your 4 very long posts as I already new the arguments. I think the links I posted present a more balanced view.

Do you mean Yah as in 'yes' or Yah as in 'upperclass person' that's the English usuage ;)