When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect?

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stonesoffire

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I understand. Bunnies and eggs have nothing to do with resurrection. But it's fun. :) for kids that is.

Ive never read anything about it either H. But, in my studies I saw that the boys were circumcised on the 8th day. I assumed this was the reason why the Catholics started Easter Sunday, but am not Catholic and didn't pursue it.

We do have a difference of opinion though. To me the Levitical priesthood ended, so it would be a newness of life, a new way, which Hebrews states we come to Father in a new and Living way. And it's the Melchizadek priesthood of Jesus, and the Sons being Priests.

And circumcision isn't required. God does the circumcision on flesh, which then in my view is the eighth day, symbolic of the new Priesthood.

We all now lumped together as one in Christ Jesus.
 

Hizikyah

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Hi Hizikyah,

Yes truth matters, and as I pointed out your version may not be the 'truthful' one. I have to admit I just skimmed through your 4 very long posts as I already new the arguments. I think the links I posted present a more balanced view.

Do you mean Yah as in 'yes' or Yah as in 'upperclass person' that's the English usuage ;)
Yah as in YHWH. I certainly don't know everything but I have studied this matter very thoroughly, and I am Scriptually sure. I also read those links, and I don’t know what you meant by more balanced, but there are numerous flaws and things they fail to mention, to only come to the conclusion that it really doesn’t matter in their final paragraph.


Quote from that site;
In the grand scheme of things, it is not all that important to know what day of the week Christ was crucified. If it were very important, then God's Word would have clearly communicated the day and timeframe. What is important is that He did die and that He physically, bodily rose from the dead. What is equally important is the reason He died—to take the punishment that all sinners deserve. John 3:16 and 3:36 both proclaim that putting your trust in Him results in eternal life! This is equally true whether He was crucified on a Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday.”


While it is more important to know He died and rose, to say “it is not all that important to know what day of the week Christ was crucified” is false, especially when religious practices are changed as a result on the sole basis of a Sunday Resurrection. However that is not my purpose in this thread, my purpose is to Scripturally illustrate the truth of what is written rather than tradition.


Also they are brutally dishonest when they say this;


“Next, we need to identify what the Day of Preparation was preparing for. Every week, preparations had to be made for the Sabbath—food had to be prepared ahead of time. This led to the “Day of Preparation” becoming the common term for “Friday.”


While preparations are made the 6[SUP]th[/SUP] day for the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day Sabbath they fail to mention this;


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 19:31, “Therefore, since it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the stake on the Sabbath – for that Sabbath was a high one – the Yehuḏim asked Pilate to have their legs broken, and that they be taken away.” TS 2009[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 19:31, “Therefore, because it was the Preparation Day, that the bodies should not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” NKJV[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 19:31, ‘The Jews therefore, because it was the Preparation, that the bodies should not remain on the cross upon the sabbath (for the day of that sabbath was a high day)” ASV[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 19:31, ‘Since it was the day of Preparation, and so that the bodies would not remain on the cross on the Sabbath (for that Sabbath was a high day)…” ESV[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Scripture show 100% without a doubt it was “a high day” showing it was not the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] day Sabbath but a High Sabbath/Feast day, so it had to be Passover, Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, Trumpets, Atonement, Tabernacles or the Last Great Day. If they are that Scriptually illiterate, they should not be teaching.[/FONT]
 

Hizikyah

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I understand. Bunnies and eggs have nothing to do with resurrection. But it's fun. :) for kids that is.

Ive never read anything about it either H. But, in my studies I saw that the boys were circumcised on the 8th day. I assumed this was the reason why the Catholics started Easter Sunday, but am not Catholic and didn't pursue it.

We do have a difference of opinion though. To me the Levitical priesthood ended, so it would be a newness of life, a new way, which Hebrews states we come to Father in a new and Living way. And it's the Melchizadek priesthood of Jesus, and the Sons being Priests.

And circumcision isn't required. God does the circumcision on flesh, which then in my view is the eighth day, symbolic of the new Priesthood.

We all now lumped together as one in Christ Jesus.
Yes I agree we are all one in Messiah, but the symbolic things about the 8th day, and im not atacking you, but it's not set aside or stated in Scripture that it is of any consequence if it is indeed correct. In any case may Yah guide us to truth and keep us continually!
 

stonesoffire

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Yes I agree we are all one in Messiah, but the symbolic things about the 8th day, and im not atacking you, but it's not set aside or stated in Scripture that it is of any consequence if it is indeed correct. In any case may Yah guide us to truth and keep us continually!
For me H. I would call it revelation truth. But, not all see it this way.

I see the OT testifying of the new just about everywhere there. I love symbolism. ;)
 

Hizikyah

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Hi Hizikyah,
In fact we meet on the first day to break bread in remembrance of Christ just like the NT christians did.
Thisis a bitoff topic but I wanttoshow you is Scripture, they broke breadevery day of the week.

Acts 2:46

English Standard Version
And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts,

New American Standard Bible
Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart,

King James Bible
And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

New International Version
Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts,

New Living Translation
They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord's Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity
 

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Yah as in YHWH. I certainly don't know everything but I have studied this matter very thoroughly, and I am Scriptually sure. I also read those links, and I don’t know what you meant by more balanced, but there are numerous flaws and things they fail to mention, to only come to the conclusion that it really doesn’t matter in their final paragraph.

Hi Hizikyah,

As I said all sides of the debate will have 'flaws' according to each opponent. I am glad you are scripturally sure in your own mind. But there are also countless many who are scripturally sure on the other side.

They are short articles, just like I dare say if I had the time to read through your posts (all of them, probably about the same length as one of those articles) I could find flaws. I didn't have to read them I knew what side you would land on in the debate, BTW the conclusion was on the second article and not referring to the other article, just to clear that up. It is a valid point as Christians we are not under any law to observe any day...all days are Holy! So thats why I say to me its not important!

The problem I have is, you start your OP by making this sound like a salvation issue, its not! here's what you start with:

2 Timothy 2:15, “Study to show yourself approved to YHWH: a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is righteous.”

Hosea 4:6, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me..”



By implication of the above if you don't hold your view of the day Jesus was crucified or resurrected your are destroyed and not upholding righteousness and not rightly dividing the word. This is usually a legalistic mindset. The days do not matter it's what happened on and in those days that matter!
 

Hizikyah

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Hi Hizikyah,

As I said all sides of the debate will have 'flaws' according to each opponent. I am glad you are scripturally sure in your own mind. But there are also countless many who are scripturally sure on the other side.

They are short articles, just like I dare say if I had the time to read through your posts (all of them, probably about the same length as one of those articles) I could find flaws. I didn't have to read them I knew what side you would land on in the debate, BTW the conclusion was on the second article and not referring to the other article, just to clear that up. It is a valid point as Christians we are not under any law to observe any day...all days are Holy! So thats why I say to me its not important!

The problem I have is, you start your OP by making this sound like a salvation issue, its not! here's what you start with:

By implication of the above if you don't hold your view of the day Jesus was crucified or resurrected your are destroyed and not upholding righteousness and not rightly dividing the word. This is usually a legalistic mindset. The days do not matter it's what happened on and in those days that matter!
I get it opposing sides of debates will always find fault with the other, however them saying it could have been preperation for 7th day Sabbath is refuted by the verse I posted that said it was a High Sabbath, so at least concerning that singel issue I don't think there is any debate that it was not a HIgh Sabbath. And the claim that "all days are holy" is impossible by the meaning of Holy, it means to be set apart, for ever day to be holy one would have to do the will of Yah every second of every day, I have never met a person that came even close to this. And no it's not Holy or sin, there is a ton in between those that is not sin, working, house chores, etc are not sin but they are not holy work. Fixing the washing machine is not a sin but it is not the holy set apart work of Yah either, so to say very day is holy is not true. Finally, I didn't have that in mind when posting those 3 verses but rather to show importance of truth and knowledge, but the third one is strong, but it did come from the mouth of Yah so it is certianly true. Also the intention of this thread is to show/reason about the death, burial and resurrection of Yahshua, not to make it about sat v sun debate, however I supose it is linked to this matter by default. None the less the topic is the DB&R.
 
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I get it opposing sides of debates will always find fault with the other, however them saying it could have been preperation for 7th day Sabbath is refuted by the verse I posted that said it was a High Sabbath, so at least concerning that singel issue I don't think there is any debate that it was not a HIgh Sabbath. And the claim that "all days are holy" is impossible by the meaning of Holy, it means to be set apart, for ever day to be holy one would have to do the will of Yah every second of every day, I have never met a person that came even close to this. And no it's not Holy or sin, there is a ton in between those that is not sin, working, house chores, etc are not sin but they are not holy work. Fixing the washing machine is not a sin but it is not the holy set apart work of Yah either, so to say very day is holy is not true. Finally, I didn't have that in mind when posting those 3 verses but rather to show importance of truth and knowledge, but the third one is strong, but it did come from the mouth of Yah so it is certianly true. Also the intention of this thread is to show/reason about the death, burial and resurrection of Yahshua, not to make it about sat v sun debate, however I supose it is linked to this matter by default. None the less the topic is the DB&R.
I think I might disagree that working and house chores are not holy...when I do any work to lighten the load that others will have to carry in the house, I have placed my family before me, in love. If I do the smallest and simplest labor out of the motive of love, this is holy work in my opinion. It is serving them instead of resentfully demanding that I be served.
 

Hizikyah

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I think I might disagree that working and house chores are not holy...when I do any work to lighten the load that others will have to carry in the house, I have placed my family before me, in love. If I do the smallest and simplest labor out of the motive of love, this is holy work in my opinion. It is serving them instead of resentfully demanding that I be served.
If someone is taking the burden off of another then it certainly can be a holy/set apart work of Yah, however you are taking what I said and adding to it, then claiming my statement is false. Work or house chores are not in themselves holy. If one does a house chore to help another if may be, but I did not say that. Taking care of ones family, a right work indeed, Same with work, work is not holy just because it is work, if I work at McDonald's or a pizza place it's not automatically holy/set apart to Yah… Of course there are scenarios that one could be work a clean job and using the money for a righteous cause, this may very well be holy/set apart, but flipping poisons McD’s burgers that have I think less than 33% beef and silicone in the meat is not automatically holy...just examples, there are endless senarios.
 
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I have never bought the Friday thru Sunday farce.......I always looked at it Thursday thru Sunday....but you do put forth an interesting concept.....at the end of the day---->3 days and 3 nights
 

Hizikyah

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I have never bought the Friday thru Sunday farce.......I always looked at it Thursday thru Sunday....but you do put forth an interesting concept.....at the end of the day---->3 days and 3 nights
Thank you for the consideration DC,and Yes I have studied it and am in my mind Scriptually sure, but Im open to hear others peoples views. However 3 days and 3 nights is undebatable IMO, so I fully agree with you there. You know Yahshua/Jesus said it was the only sign of the true Messiah, and we know Yah's plan is perfect and He does not error, and Yahshua walked perfectly to so there is no reason think there was error in His timeline.
 
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Wasn't trying to add to what you said hiz.:)
Just followed where my mind went there and gave my thought. :)
 

Hizikyah

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Wasn't trying to add to what you said hiz.:)
Just followed where my mind went there and gave my thought. :)
No worries! After I read my post to you I think I could have worded it a little better. Honestly I respect and appreciate when someone speaks their mind and I have to give you respect for being a responsible woman concerning household and surely other duties. A strong and righteous woman can and does make everyone else in the household better and is vital to a healthy home. So let me say I honor and respect you even though I don't know you personally, a right woman is worth more than all the gold and jewels in the world. Praise Yah for His people, and I mean that. May Yah bless you and keep you continually!
 

shrume

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Thank you for the consideration DC,and Yes I have studied it and am in my mind Scriptually sure, but Im open to hear others peoples views. However 3 days and 3 nights is undebatable IMO, so I fully agree with you there. You know Yahshua/Jesus said it was the only sign of the true Messiah, and we know Yah's plan is perfect and He does not error, and Yahshua walked perfectly to so there is no reason think there was error in His timeline.
I have believed for a long time that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday and resurrected late Saturday. Kudos to you for documenting it so thoroughly.

I disagree slightly on your view of the seven feasts. I think Passover and Firstfruits are two separate feasts.

Spring Feasts
1) Passover
2) Unleavened Bread
3) Firstfruits
4) Feast of Weeks (Pentecost)

Fall Feasts
5) Feast of Trumpets
6) Feast of Atonement
7) Feast of Tabernacles

Jesus fulfilled the first four feasts at his first coming, he'll fulfill the last three at his second.

This may be OT for this thread, but when do you believe Jesus was arrested? I won't go into much detail here, but I believe the Last Supper and Jesus' arrest occurred on Monday evening/night. I'm pretty sure many will think it was a Tuesday (assuming a Wednesday crucifixion), but there just is not enough time for everything that happened between his arrest and crucifixion for his arrest to have occurred on Tuesday night. Also, in John 19:14, when Pilate presented Jesus to the people and said "Behold your King", it was the sixth hour. Noon. There is no "noon" between a Tuesday night arrest and a Wednesday morning crucifixion.

I appreciate many of your posts, Hizikyah. You put a lot of work into them.
 

Hizikyah

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I have believed for a long time that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday and resurrected late Saturday. Kudos to you for documenting it so thoroughly.

I disagree slightly on your view of the seven feasts. I think Passover and Firstfruits are two separate feasts.

Spring Feasts
1) Passover
2) Unleavened Bread
3) Firstfruits
4) Feast of Weeks (Pentecost)

Fall Feasts
5) Feast of Trumpets
6) Feast of Atonement
7) Feast of Tabernacles

Jesus fulfilled the first four feasts at his first coming, he'll fulfill the last three at his second.

This may be OT for this thread, but when do you believe Jesus was arrested? I won't go into much detail here, but I believe the Last Supper and Jesus' arrest occurred on Monday evening/night. I'm pretty sure many will think it was a Tuesday (assuming a Wednesday crucifixion), but there just is not enough time for everything that happened between his arrest and crucifixion for his arrest to have occurred on Tuesday night. Also, in John 19:14, when Pilate presented Jesus to the people and said "Behold your King", it was the sixth hour. Noon. There is no "noon" between a Tuesday night arrest and a Wednesday morning crucifixion.

I appreciate many of your posts, Hizikyah. You put a lot of work into them.
Thank you brother glory to Yah, He corrects and guides us on this journey! About the Feast Days you may very well be correct, they are not actually numbered, and could be counted the way I did, the way you did, or even as 8. My reasoning for counting them the way I did is because since they are all prophecies about Yahshua/Jesus and Passover is His death and Firstfruits is His Resurrection and presenting Himself to YHWH I thought we can't have His death without His resurrection, and the Last great Day being the Day Yah's Kingdom is made complete and eternal on earth, I thought it it's own Feast. But honestly it could very well be Firstfruits it's own Feast and the Last Great Day a part of Tabernacles... Or counted as 8... IMO the most important issuse is to understand them and what they mean in fulfillment. and wow, so I honestly never studied or gave thought to what day He was arrested, im about to log off soon, but any insigth you would like to share in this matter would be appreciated, as I am now curious about this! Thank you again for the kind words, may YHWH strengthen and guides us continually!
 

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Interesting and very convincing evidence! Except, my understanding is that the Jews considered any part of a day, even an hour, a "day." In fact, an Orthodox Jew was the one who told me this!

I am not going to comment anymore but pray and re-read. And, I will probably still observe the same days, at least with as regards to the church I attend. So, are we to celebrate "Good Wednesday, instead?" Or just the Resurrection?
Jews and men in general have a very different take on counting time.....that is why SCRIPTURE says that Jesus/Yashuah's death, burial and resurrection are according to scripture and not human reckoning 1Cor 15v3,4. Bits and parts of days and nights don't figure in this case. A day is 12 hours and a night is 12 hours....as Jesus/Yashuah says Joh 11, !
And scripture is where we get truth from !
 

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When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect? I would like to use Scripture to show the timeline. Anyone who agrees or disagrees is welcome to give your view, I ask that Scripture is also used to supplement it. Thank you!

2 Timothy 2:15, “Study to show yourself approved to YHWH: a workman who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

1 Thessalonians 5:21, “Prove all things; hold fast that which is righteous.”

Hosea 4:6, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me..”

There are many things we are told that we willingly accept without studying to see if they are true or not. The apostle Paul told us to do our homework and YHWH told us if we do not do our homework we will get destruction. Scripture is Scripture and truth is truth. Today I want to focus on a very simple truth that nearly the whole world has got very, very wrong.

When was the Messiah put in the grave? and when did He resurrect?

Now most people already are thinking “I know the answer to this I don’t need to study this.” If you think this you may be the person this was meant for. So the first thing we must understand is what makes up a day. A day is a 24 hour period, but it is not midnight to midnight. That is the Gregorian (Roman) calendar that has only been in use since 1582, enacted by Pope Gregory XIII and was a reform of the Julian calendar. It is based on solar cycles and has its origins in Greek, Egyptian, and Babylonian history; all these are in opposition to YHWH and His calendar. To understand what a day consists of according to the Creator of all that is, we need to look at a few verses;

Berĕshith/Genesis 1:5, " And Yah called the light ‘day’ and the darkness He called ‘night.’ And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, the first day."

Exodus 12:18, "In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month, in the evening, you shall eat unleavened bread until the twenty-first day of the month in the evening."

Leviticus 23:32, "It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”

"evening" is word # H6153. ereb - Strong's Concordance: ereb: evening, Original Word: עָ֫רֶב, Part of Speech: Noun Masculine, Transliteration: ereb, Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-reb), Short Definition: evening

Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) -
1) evening, night, sunset, 1a) evening, sunset, 1b) night
By the Creator’s calendar the days begin and end when the sun goes down, not at “12 midnight.” Thus 1 day is sunset to sunset. An interesting side note is the day “April fools,” this day got its name in France, there were people who still kept the Creator’s calendar and not the Roman calendar. The Creator’s year starts and ends around April (not what we call New Year’s Eve, which is actually Saturnalia, the pagan worship of Saturn), so the people who still kept the true calendar were called fools, and eventually this turned into April Fools Day, how nice?) So I know the Creator’s calendar takes a little getting used to, as we have kept a different calendar all our lives. But this is the first step to understand when the Messiah was put in the grave and when He resurrected. I am going to use the illustrations below to depict YHWH’s days; first night, then day.

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Leviticus 23:32, "It is a Sabbath of rest to you, and you shall afflict your beings. On the ninth day of the month at evening, from evening to evening, you observe your Sabbath.”

Now there is a rabbinical/Pharisaic teaching that says any part of a day can be reckoned as a day. Fist off this is not based in Scripture but made up by man, the same types that Yahshua/Jesus said rejected Yah for their own tradition;

Mat 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them; And why do you transgress the Laws of YHWH by your traditions?"

I find it odd that many Christians use the rabbinical/Pharisaic reckoning of a day to prove their Resurrection timeline as they were opponents of the Messiah and they were not based in Biblical truth but man made traditions. So again, according to YHWH Creator of the Heavens and Earth, a day is sunset to sunset. It is also worth pointing out that Yahshua/Jesus said;

Mat 12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

Mat 12:39-40, “But He answering, said to them, “A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Yonah. For as Yonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of the great fish, so shall the Son of Aḏam be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

So it is the only sign of the true Messiah and He said, “three days and three nights” I don’t see how Yahshua could have gotten this wrong or used the rabbinical reckoning of a day when He spoke against nearly everything they did, especially their tradition that “nullified” the ways of the Creator. So with this in mind lets consider what is commonly accepted a “Good Friday to Easter Sunday” Resurrection;

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But there is one problem with this view that is most commonly taught, “Good Friday to Easter Sunday” resurrection, by the words of the Messiah Himself this can not be true;

Mat12:40, “For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

There is no possible way to get three days and three nights out of Friday to Sunday. It is 2 nights and one day at most. Most people, myself included are so used to the Roman calendar that it is hard to understand the Creator’s calendar and so it is confusing. I had to go over it a few times to get it myself. For it to be three days and three nights the Messiah would have had to resurrect on Monday right before the sun went down, scripture shows us this did not happen that way either. So when one realizes that Fri-Sun is not possible, a few questions arise; Where does Easter Sunday come from? If the Messiah did not resurrect on Sunday, why are we told the Sabbath has been changed to Sunday, to honor the resurrection? But before we get to that, lets study this out.
I wholeheartedly applaud this thread and study !
I have over the past 37 years many times made reference to this but obviously been overlooked and ignored by mainstream christianity....so I fervently hope you will have more success and save people from their error and false following ! May God help and strengthen you !!!
 

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Nice arguement, but your premise is wrong to begin with. Can you provide any Scripture that states that the three days and three night in the belly of the great fish and belly of the earth means three days and three night in the tomb?

Let's look at Jonah's experience is, Jonah 2:1 “I cried out to the Lord because of my affliction,”

Now let us look at how Isaiah decribes Christ's experience, Isaiah 53:7

“He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth.”

Notice both of their experiences they were being afflicted, but notice that Christ's in His affliction did not open His mouth; like a lamb to the slaughter. When did this happen? John19:7-9

“The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and according to that law he ought to die because he has made himself the Son of God.”8 When Pilate heard this statement, he was even more afraid.9 He entered his headquarters again and said to Jesus, “Where are you from?” But Jesus gave him no answer.”

So this is part of Jesus' affliction. So let's look at what the disciples say about what the three day and nights are about or when they started and it ended. Luke 24:19-22

“And he said to them, “What things?” And they said to him, “Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, a man who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people,20 and how our chief priests and rulers delivered him up to be condemned to death, and crucified him.21 But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel. Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things happened.”

Now let us look at what Christ says that the Law and the Prophets and the Psalms say about His three days and three nights, Luke 24:44-47

“These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.”45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures,46 and said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead,47 and that repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.”

Again no mention of three days and three nights in the Tomb, only three days and three nights of suffering. So let's look at when this started, John 18:19 “The high priest then questioned Jesus about his disciples and his teaching.” if you read all the accounts of His arrest and the stricking of Christ and what the Temple gaurds did to Him there is no time frame given, not until they hand Him over to Pilate is there a time frame given. Then John 18:28-32 give a time and verse 32 confrims that this was done to fulfill what He had said would happen to Him.

“Then they led Jesus from the house of Caiaphas to the governor's headquarters. It was early morning. They themselves did not enter the governor's headquarters, so that they would not be defiled, but could eat the Passover.29 So Pilate went outside to them and said, “What accusation do you bring against this man?”30 They answered him, “If this man were not doing evil, we would not have delivered him over to you.”31 Pilate said to them, “Take him yourselves and judge him by your own law.” The Jews said to him, “It is not lawful for us to put anyone to death.”32 This was to fulfill the word that Jesus had spoken to show by what kind of death he was going to die.

Matthew 27:1-2 “When morning came, all the chief priests and the elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death.2 And they bound him and led him away and delivered him over to Pilate the governor.”

Mark 15:1 “And as soon as it was morning, the chief priests held a consultation with the elders and scribes and the whole council. And they bound Jesus and led him away and delivered him over to Pilate.”


So now we have a time frame, morning, early morning or 6 A.M. that the time frame starts that fulfill the words that Jesus spoke about His death, no mention of 3 days, 3 night in the Tomb. But that time frame of His affliction like Jonah of 3 days, 3 nights.

With the day of preperation being before the High Day Sabbath which was a Thrusday, so we have the starting of the fulfillment of the time frame starting a 6 A.M. on Thursday. Now let's look at when He roswe from the died and the time that He rose, Matthew 28:1-6

“Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb.2 And behold, there was a great earthquake, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled back the stone and sat on it.3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing white as snow.4 And for fear of him the guards trembled and became like dead men.5 But the angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified.6 He is not here, for he has risen, as he said. Come, see the place where he lay.”

Mark 16:1-6 “When the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him.2 And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb.3 And they were saying to one another, “Who will roll away the stone for us from the entrance of the tomb?”4 And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled back—it was very large.5 And entering the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, dressed in a white robe, and they were alarmed.6 And he said to them, “Do not be alarmed. You seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has risen; he is not here. See the place where they laid him.”

Luke 24:1-7 “But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they went to the tomb, taking the spices they had prepared.2 And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb,3 but when they went in they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.4 While they were perplexed about this, behold, two men stood by them in dazzling apparel.5 And as they were frightened and bowed their faces to the ground, the men said to them, “Why do you seek the living among the dead?6 He is not here, but has risen. Remember how he told you, while he was still in Galilee,7 that the Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men and be crucified and on the third day rise.”


John 20:1, 8-9 “Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb….8 Then the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed;9 for as yet they did not und
erstand the Scripture, that he must rise from the dead.

All of the se accounts of the empty Tomb are after the Sabbath and early on the first day of the week, so on the first day of the week or around 6 A.M. Also notice Luke 24:6b-7
Notice they did not remember that Jesus was supposed to be in the Tomb for 3 days and 3 nights but they, “Remember how he told you, while he was still in Galilee, 7 that the Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men and be crucified and on the third day rise.”

I posted Scripture as you asked for, now can you post Scripture that states that the Christ was supposed to be 3 days and, 3 nights in the Tomb?
 

trofimus

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This is still returning topic. Which day of the week.

But I never understood one thing - what does it change? Does it have any impact on our life of theology?