Where Did Cain find his two wives

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JohnRH

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If Cain was first born, then able. Then no one else yet, then Cain took wives and bare children, Then Seth, where did his wives come from?
Right here:
Genesis 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:
 

rlm68

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If there WERE others...why did he only single out Adam and Eve for the Bible? I believe they were the first human beings...


He singled Adam out because the lineage of Christ!! There could have been 100,000 people, but Adam is mentioned because from him comes David, and from David comes Mary/Joseph/Christ!!

The beauty about the lineage of Christ, is that it proves it is full of sinners of all kinds of sins. We have harlots, adulterers, murderers, all in the lineage that leads to Christ. Even Cain's son [ENOCH] never died physically!! But the lineage from Adam to Christ proves no one is perfect, and that we today are now part of that lineage...and we definitely are anything but perfect!!
 

Latour

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If Cain had married his sister(s)...it would have said so. But it is wrong to marry your own siblings. Also, why was Cain worried about someone killing him in his travels if there were not more people in the world? Just saying...
 

Enocish

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Ahwatukee

What you are not taking into consideration is that, after Cain and Abel were born, Adam and Eve continued to have other children who are just not mentioned in scripture.
What is highlighted in red is strictly speculation? Because of what is highlighted in green. I chose to use logical deduction and basic reasoning.
GOD has a natural order to things and he for told us all things Mark 13:23. First, he told us about the Cain and able incident then said they had other sons and daughters, starting with Seth, Nothing between about other people. and if I may bring to your attention Cain is not Adam's seed, It is basic reasoning it happened in that order.

and Zmouth
" you represent Cain, chose his wives, do you have scriptures to back that up "

No disrespect intended, But bless your heart, how do you think people got wives.
Common sense dictates they were chosen by the father or the son or both, The women didn't get to choose. And logical deduction or an educated guess says that because Cain was not Adams offspring ( Like the offspring of the angels ) he was very different, so Adam and Cain probably didn't have a lot to do with each other, Leaving Cain to have to choose his own wives, After separating his self from Adam in the land of Nod.
What is high lighted in is my speculation, so if you want to imagine Cain and Adam were best buds that's fine too, But the fact remains he got his wives after getting to the land of Nod and Adam wasn't there? I call logical deduction, an educated guess, Same thing.

your thoughts
 

Enocish

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Even Cain's son [ENOCH] never died physically!!
That Enoch did die.
I feel it is very important that this gets corrected, Enoch son of Cain, is NOT let me say that again NOT, the same Enoch in the lineage of Christ, the Enoch in the lineage of Christ was fathered by Jared, At a different place and time.
It is very important that we keep those two separated otherwise it will null and void Christ dieing on the cross. If you don't get that, I understand that, But it really does reinforce my theory, that if you don't understand at least the first six chapters of Genisis, You will never understand the rest of the Bible,
 

Zmouth

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If you don't get that, I understand that, But it really does reinforce my theory, that if you don't understand at least the first six chapters of Genisis, You will never understand the rest of the Bible,
So does your theory also include that anyone who is taught to read by man won't understand the first six books of Genesis much less be able to discern a book from a tree? It should.
 

Enocish

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So does your theory also include that anyone who is taught to read by man won't understand the first six books of Genesis much less be able to discern a book from a tree? It should.
yes
2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
we must be taught how to study for our selves, we must have the correct tools to work with, and we must have a very basic understanding of GODS word.
I had to be taught, I didn't just wake up one day with an epiphany. All I can really do is share what tools I have and where I go to ask questions. The rest is between you and the holy spirit. Which you got when you were baptized. Acts 2:38.
Tools
KJV Bible, ( companion Preferably, Hard to find, )
Strong Concordance
smiths bible dictionary

My Teacher
Pastor Arnold murry and Dennis murry with shepherd chapel.
https://shepherdschapel.com/video/
it is the only church of Smyrna I have found in the end times. I'm sure there are others but I haven't found them

We, all had a teacher, Christ taught the Apostles.
The apostles taught the disciples and so on.
Just ask the holy spirit to open your eyes to see an ears to hear,

In order to be an Apostle, you had to witness the baptism and crucifixion of Christ. it was a qualification.
May you stay in his word.
 

Jewel5712

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#48
yes
2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
we must be taught how to study for our selves, we must have the correct tools to work with, and we must have a very basic understanding of GODS word.
I had to be taught, I didn't just wake up one day with an epiphany. All I can really do is share what tools I have and where I go to ask questions. The rest is between you and the holy spirit. Which you got when you were baptized. Acts 2:38.
Tools
KJV Bible, ( companion Preferably, Hard to find, )
Strong Concordance
smiths bible dictionary

My Teacher
Pastor Arnold murry and Dennis murry with shepherd chapel.
https://shepherdschapel.com/video/
it is the only church of Smyrna I have found in the end times. I'm sure there are others but I haven't found them

We, all had a teacher, Christ taught the Apostles.
The apostles taught the disciples and so on.
Just ask the holy spirit to open your eyes to see an ears to hear,

In order to be an Apostle, you had to witness the baptism and crucifixion of Christ. it was a qualification.
May you stay in his word.
In order to be an apostle you had to witness baptism and crucifixion? Most apostles DIDNT witness the crucifixion..the hid and scattered fearing for thier lives or were you talking figuratively?
 

Zmouth

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and Zmouth
" you represent Cain, chose his wives, do you have scriptures to back that up "

No disrespect intended, But bless your heart, how do you think people got wives.
Common sense dictates they were chosen by the father or the son or both, The women didn't get to choose. And logical deduction or an educated guess says that because Cain was not Adams offspring ( Like the offspring of the angels ) he was very different, so Adam and Cain probably didn't have a lot to do with each other, Leaving Cain to have to choose his own wives, After separating his self from Adam in the land of Nod.
What is high lighted in is my speculation, so if you want to imagine Cain and Adam were best buds that's fine too, But the fact remains he got his wives after getting to the land of Nod and Adam wasn't there? I call logical deduction, an educated guess, Same thing.

your thoughts
While I completely understand how scripture may and sometimes do have an alternate meaning, yet the scripture itself must present that alternative, not merely because of educated guesses. After all, if someone wasn't able to teach themself how to read then how educated could their guesses really be?

So I wouldn't call this a educated guess but rather a faithful saying, no man can teach themself how to read, yet not every man is taught to read by man. So if any man needed that man teach him anything, then the same needs man to teach him all things. So did you need that any man teach you how to read?

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Genesis 4
 

Jewel5712

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While I completely understand how scripture may and sometimes do have an alternate meaning, yet the scripture itself must present that alternative, not merely because of educated guesses. After all, if someone wasn't able to teach themself how to read then how educated could their guesses really be?

So I wouldn't call this a educated guess but rather a faithful saying, no man can teach themself how to read, yet not every man is taught to read by man. So if any man needed that man teach him anything, then the same needs man to teach him all things. So did you need that any man teach you how to read?

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Genesis 4
Good scripture but doesnt specifically answer OPs question..we can ASSUME she was a woman from Nod?
 

Zmouth

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In order to be an apostle you had to witness baptism and crucifixion? Most apostles DIDNT witness the crucifixion..the hid and scattered fearing for thier lives or were you talking figuratively?
How Apostles many witnesses his baptism? None?
 

Jewel5712

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How Apostles many witnesses his baptism? None?
But you said witnessing the baptism n crucifixion was a must" to be an apostle..all it took to be an apostle is Jesus asking for them to follow Him and a "yes"...just like us..Jesus asks US..whats our answer?
 

Zmouth

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Good scripture but doesnt specifically answer OPs question..we can ASSUME she was a woman from Nod?
While I normally don't try to interpret crazy, I think this more a case of zealous, so I could be wrong it but it appears that Enocish reasoning for Cain having multiple wives is based upon the following;

5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
5:2 male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them
6:2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
[Adam, which was the son of God. Luke 3:38]

In such, that deduction which would put Cain in the group referred unto the sons of God, especially if they considered them as fallen angels could lead one to believe that Cain have taken unto himself multiple wives, but would be in total error for numerous reasons. However, in all honesty Enocish never stated the methodology of his educated guess and the above merely represents what I perceive as a possible way one could reach such conclusion that Cain had multiple wives, but quite frankly sometimes it is what it is and when Cain knew his wife, he couldn't have knew two at the same time.

However, if one is going to attempt to unseal the book themselves then they have to remember what is written in Isaiah 28:10, For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: which some might not understand the meaning of the sealed book which can be found in Isaiah 29.


11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. 13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Isa 29:11-13

The learned simply means taught, so when the sealed Book is handed to the man that has been taught by men how to read, he honestly answers that he can't read it since it is sealed understanding that without the Holy Ghost to teach he could not read it which is mirrored by the book being given to him who hasn't been taught how to read who would honestly respond that he cannot read it because he has not been taught how to read. (See 1 John 2:27)
 

Zmouth

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But you said witnessing the baptism n crucifixion was a must" to be an apostle..all it took to be an apostle is Jesus asking for them to follow Him and a "yes"...just like us..Jesus asks US..whats our answer?
I didn't say that, Enocish said that.
 

jameen

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This answer is enough

After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. - Genesis 5:4

Remember that God ordered the first couples on earth to be fruitful and multiply.

So Cain's wives are in fact his sisters.

All humans in fact are brothers and sisters of the first couple from the Garden of Eden.
 

Zmouth

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This answer is enough

After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters. - Genesis 5:4

Remember that God ordered the first couples on earth to be fruitful and multiply.

So Cain's wives are in fact his sisters.

All humans in fact are brothers and sisters of the first couple from the Garden of Eden.
Two reasons that is wrong.

1. The word of the LORD is forever settled in heaven. So if you are going to say that two siblings of the same biological parent would be acceptable to the LORD then, then it would be acceptable in the eyes of the LORD today.

2. Daughters were not born until after 'men' began multiply upon the face of the earth.
 

posthuman

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What if I told you each race was created equally but separately. and just as the angels took wives for themselves, and had offspring, lucifer beguiled eve and had offspring, also what if I said that Cain was that offspring belonging to the serpent and able belonged to Adam, No other children had been born to the eight-day Adam and eve. until Seth, and Cain chose his 2 wives from one of the other races in the land of nod,
Would saying these things put to rest a lot of questions or would it create more. Or would anyone even really care?

What are your thoughts
i'd say you're nuts, because:

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
(Genesis 4:1)