Well I think the Bladerunner fellow was referring to the fact God has made everyone including people named Maxine and Leroy lol, but that Shem, Ham, and Japheth are still the principle fathers of the races of today. Though I guess you'll just have to wait until tomorrow or the next day for him to tell you himself.
Where did different races come from?
- Thread starter wade1989
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Not sure about what you are meaning when you speak of "develope very different appearance".
Keep in mind when you are speaking about the last 2000 years, most of the changes during the first 12-1500 AD years remained within the countries they landed after Babel started...From Noah's day, that gives (3500 years) for changes to take place....all of it will be micro-evolution which can change from one generation to another.
The last 500+ years as people have been going 'to and fro', Slowly at first but faster each year. In the Sixties, while there has always been a mixing of the races in the US, the times of the period did away with most of the taboos. We now see an expontentially mixing of the races here and world wide. It would thereby be hard to determine where someone is from simply on their appearance.
What I did was go by the scripture, the Authority of GOD, when I posted that information ....Now, I, personnaly can attest to the Micro-evolution of all life (except plants) as I was a Microbiologist for many years. It is easy to see these types of changes in Micro-organism as their generation(s) are very short.
As far as the argument of Babel. The people at Babel were not the only people in the world...It is very evident there were people(s) in other Northern and Western, Southern, and Eastern nations from a starting point of today's Turkey. How great is God is; to pick certain people out from the city of Babel, identify them with a country, change the entire language of those persons and their respective nations would be child's play.
Please, do not underestimate the Power of GOD....
For the most part genetic variations stay within color, hair, height, weight, resistance to various external stimuli., etc...(simple items to change), Having a group of people with six fingers and six toes, being very tall in statue, while also genetic, however, genetic manipulation here is connected to the "x" chromosome. It therefore would have a one in four chance of happening each birth of those females who demonstrated the trait. We can go into this part a little further is someone wants to but for now I think I have already said to much?
Blade
Keep in mind when you are speaking about the last 2000 years, most of the changes during the first 12-1500 AD years remained within the countries they landed after Babel started...From Noah's day, that gives (3500 years) for changes to take place....all of it will be micro-evolution which can change from one generation to another.
The last 500+ years as people have been going 'to and fro', Slowly at first but faster each year. In the Sixties, while there has always been a mixing of the races in the US, the times of the period did away with most of the taboos. We now see an expontentially mixing of the races here and world wide. It would thereby be hard to determine where someone is from simply on their appearance.
What I did was go by the scripture, the Authority of GOD, when I posted that information ....Now, I, personnaly can attest to the Micro-evolution of all life (except plants) as I was a Microbiologist for many years. It is easy to see these types of changes in Micro-organism as their generation(s) are very short.
As far as the argument of Babel. The people at Babel were not the only people in the world...It is very evident there were people(s) in other Northern and Western, Southern, and Eastern nations from a starting point of today's Turkey. How great is God is; to pick certain people out from the city of Babel, identify them with a country, change the entire language of those persons and their respective nations would be child's play.
Please, do not underestimate the Power of GOD....
For the most part genetic variations stay within color, hair, height, weight, resistance to various external stimuli., etc...(simple items to change), Having a group of people with six fingers and six toes, being very tall in statue, while also genetic, however, genetic manipulation here is connected to the "x" chromosome. It therefore would have a one in four chance of happening each birth of those females who demonstrated the trait. We can go into this part a little further is someone wants to but for now I think I have already said to much?
Blade
You said: Thus, if the pigmentation gene is race [A][a] and the female is race [A][a], the child will be born with the pigmentation gene of [A][a].
This is a wrong assumption..... as each parent gives 1 chromosome... thereby the pigmentation gene could look like this..
A(father), A (mother); A (Father), a (Mother); a (Father), A (Mother); a(Father), a (Mother). So the each Baby born could be (A,A), (A,a), (a,A), *(a,a)*
As one can see, the recessive gene could show up at least 25% of the time for every child Born. Where the Mother is considered HOMOgenous (A,A), a Baby could have the recessive gene.... as the father will give it to a female (a,A).
We can go further into the male Heterogenus or Homogenus status but you stated both were Heterogenus. If either or both are Homogensus for either gene, (A or a), The % of children bearing or no-bearing the recessive Chromosome will increase or decrease accordingly.
Blade
This is a wrong assumption..... as each parent gives 1 chromosome... thereby the pigmentation gene could look like this..
A(father), A (mother); A (Father), a (Mother); a (Father), A (Mother); a(Father), a (Mother). So the each Baby born could be (A,A), (A,a), (a,A), *(a,a)*
As one can see, the recessive gene could show up at least 25% of the time for every child Born. Where the Mother is considered HOMOgenous (A,A), a Baby could have the recessive gene.... as the father will give it to a female (a,A).
We can go further into the male Heterogenus or Homogenus status but you stated both were Heterogenus. If either or both are Homogensus for either gene, (A or a), The % of children bearing or no-bearing the recessive Chromosome will increase or decrease accordingly.
Blade
Ok, JoeFIzz,,,,Here is the post, that I will use to give you the scriptures. Give me a little time, at least a coule hours. lol
This is reprinted from a previous post
Hi MarcR.....Hope this finds you and yours well......
While the Bible makes it clear there are three main peoples in the world unto today.......Gentiles, Jews and the Church (Body of Christ)
It also tells us where the races come from....There are four main races and all of them can be traced back to Adam and Eve...starting with Noah and His Wife.
Noah had three sons:
Japheth went north and west into the Isles, Tarshish is one of His descendants. Tarshish was known as the British Isles (Great Britain)
Ham ( a Black Man through Historical records) went south and a little East...His son Nimrod was also BLACK. His descendants are found in Ethiopia , egypt, and Saudi Arabia, etc. where the Dark color mainly is.
Shem went east to Asia and it is said there are records that show His descendants in the Aleutian Islands and beyond. I have not seen the records so I can only speculate here. The American Indians were of Yellow-Red Skin color. Keep in mind that the land was all together until Peleg.
OK,,, So we have three Races but I said there were four...
The fourth is the Jewish People.....and they come from Shem...Shem--->Eber---->Abram---> Isaac--->Jacob (who God named Israel).
The whites by Japheth, The Black by Ham and the Asians and Jews by Shem
All of the above is backed up by God's word if you need them.......
May God Bless all on this Forum for Asking such an important question to be answered.
Blade
This is reprinted from a previous post
Hi MarcR.....Hope this finds you and yours well......
While the Bible makes it clear there are three main peoples in the world unto today.......Gentiles, Jews and the Church (Body of Christ)
It also tells us where the races come from....There are four main races and all of them can be traced back to Adam and Eve...starting with Noah and His Wife.
Noah had three sons:
Japheth went north and west into the Isles, Tarshish is one of His descendants. Tarshish was known as the British Isles (Great Britain)
Ham ( a Black Man through Historical records) went south and a little East...His son Nimrod was also BLACK. His descendants are found in Ethiopia , egypt, and Saudi Arabia, etc. where the Dark color mainly is.
Shem went east to Asia and it is said there are records that show His descendants in the Aleutian Islands and beyond. I have not seen the records so I can only speculate here. The American Indians were of Yellow-Red Skin color. Keep in mind that the land was all together until Peleg.
OK,,, So we have three Races but I said there were four...
The fourth is the Jewish People.....and they come from Shem...Shem--->Eber---->Abram---> Isaac--->Jacob (who God named Israel).
The whites by Japheth, The Black by Ham and the Asians and Jews by Shem
All of the above is backed up by God's word if you need them.......
May God Bless all on this Forum for Asking such an important question to be answered.
Blade
Yes, we finally agree on something. Here's the other thing to consider. Prior to the Flood Noah might of had 3 additional wives plus the one he took on the Ark. Nothing says that his wife was the mother of any of the 3 kids. In fact Canaan, the son of Ham, slept with Noah's wife. This is why he was cursed by Noah.
Maybe I should have explained in a little better, but I forget that not everyone sees that the instructions for the tabernacle in
in the OT is describing the genetic fabric of man as found in Exodus 25:9: According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.
Such as the four colors of the linen, being the four colors of man skin. So [A] and [A] bring forth [A][a]; yet [A] and bring forth either [A] or [a] but not [AB] nor [C] or [D] was written in Exodus 26:1, 26:1 Moreover thou shalt make the tabernacle with ten curtains of fine twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet:
2 Peter 1:12-14
12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth. 13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance; 14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
in the OT is describing the genetic fabric of man as found in Exodus 25:9: According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.
Such as the four colors of the linen, being the four colors of man skin. So [A] and [A] bring forth [A][a]; yet [A] and bring forth either [A] or [a] but not [AB] nor [C] or [D] was written in Exodus 26:1, 26:1 Moreover thou shalt make the tabernacle with ten curtains of fine twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet:
2 Peter 1:12-14
12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in the present truth. 13 Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance; 14 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me.
Last edited:
Since it came to pass that when men began to multiply upon the face of the earth that daughters were born unto them, then if daughters (females) weren't born until men began to multiply then how could the wife of Cain be his sister?
1 Cor 2:14
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
KJV
From the three sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, sprang 16 grandsons of Noah.
Genesis 10:32: "These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations,
in their nations; and OF THESE were the nations divided in the earth after the flood."
The nations today are descendants of these family names.
Genesis 10:32: "These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations,
in their nations; and OF THESE were the nations divided in the earth after the flood."
The nations today are descendants of these family names.
-
1
- Show all
THE ORIGIN OF THE RACES
http://rogerswebsite.com/others/TheOriginoftheRaces.pdf
http://rogerswebsite.com/others/TheOriginoftheRaces.pdf
There are those who defend the idea that this occurred in the Tower of Babel. After all, people would not spread from each other just because they started talking in an unintelligible way.
But, on the other hand, imagine if some began to change color of the skin, stature, physiognomy, etc. This would certainly arouse fear.
But, on the other hand, imagine if some began to change color of the skin, stature, physiognomy, etc. This would certainly arouse fear.