Where is Ephraim today?

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Feb 28, 2016
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most, if not all of Jesus' inter-actions in the NT, pertains to the 'ten-tribes of Isreal,'
for it is written: 'I am sent only to the 'lost sheep of Isreal...
when Jesus comes into contact with someone, such as the ten lepers,
they represent the 'ten-tribes of Israel' that are 'unclean, they have stepped out of God's Covenant...

the healing of the 'blind' represents what God says to Isreal, that they have eyes to see,
and ears to hear', but they do neither...BUT, eventually, they Shall SEE...

as far as the Samaritan woman is concerned, 'notice that she has had '5' husbands, which are:
Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Rome - everything that Jesus does, FITS INTO the Israel Pattern,
because, that's exactly whom He was sent to...

the woman with the issue of Blood, represents Israel, for her sins are as 'filthy rags'...
 
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graceNpeace

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Ephraim, along with the other tribes that made up the Northern Kingdom do not exist as specific entities today.
When they were taken into captivity they were assimilated.
This is unlike the Kingdom of Judah where at least a remnant returned and now comprise what we call Jews.
Even Jews are not currently a distinct ethnolinguistic group but are able to trace their ancestry back to either Judah, Benjamin, or Levi.

Perhaps with DNA technology it would be possible to find people all over mainly the Middle East that could be traced back to the tribes of the Northern Kingdom.
However, one will not find distinct groups of people.

The prophecies that talk about the two kingdoms being reunited may not refer to these tribes coming together as a distinct political or ethnic entity.
I think it far more likely that this prophecy began to be realised as soon as any Gentile believers were grafted in according to Paul's description in Romans.
The tribes of the Northern Kingdom will never be reconstituted as discrete entities going forward.

BTW British Israelism and its offshoots are the product of complete fantasy.
 

posthuman

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EZ. 37:16-17-19.
Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah,
and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it,
For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:

And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

Say unto them, Thus saith The Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph,
which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him,
even
with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in Mine Hand.
what does the book of mormon have to do with Ephraim??

;)
 
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willybob

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Ephraim is symbolic for the multitudes
 

unobtrusive

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Ephraim, along with the other tribes that made up the Northern Kingdom do not exist as specific entities today.
When they were taken into captivity they were assimilated.
This is unlike the Kingdom of Judah where at least a remnant returned and now comprise what we call Jews.
Even Jews are not currently a distinct ethnolinguistic group but are able to trace their ancestry back to either Judah, Benjamin, or Levi.

Perhaps with DNA technology it would be possible to find people all over mainly the Middle East that could be traced back to the tribes of the Northern Kingdom.
However, one will not find distinct groups of people.

The prophecies that talk about the two kingdoms being reunited may not refer to these tribes coming together as a distinct political or ethnic entity.
I think it far more likely that this prophecy began to be realised as soon as any Gentile believers were grafted in according to Paul's description in Romans.
The tribes of the Northern Kingdom will never be reconstituted as discrete entities going forward.

BTW British Israelism and its offshoots are the product of complete fantasy.
Very well described. What you wrote makes me think of what Jesus said to the Samaritan woman at the well, "Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews." (John 4:22 KJV)
 
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Ephraim, along with the other tribes that made up the Northern Kingdom do not exist as specific entities today.
When they were taken into captivity they were assimilated.
This is unlike the Kingdom of Judah where at least a remnant returned and now comprise what we call Jews.
Even Jews are not currently a distinct ethnolinguistic group but are able to trace their ancestry back to either Judah, Benjamin, or Levi.

Perhaps with DNA technology it would be possible to find people all over mainly the Middle East that could be traced back to the tribes of the Northern Kingdom.
However, one will not find distinct groups of people.

The prophecies that talk about the two kingdoms being reunited may not refer to these tribes coming together as a distinct political or ethnic entity.
I think it far more likely that this prophecy began to be realised as soon as any Gentile believers were grafted in according to Paul's description in Romans.
The tribes of the Northern Kingdom will never be reconstituted as discrete entities going forward.

BTW British Israelism and its offshoots are the product of complete fantasy.
What Happened To The 12 Tribes Of Israel_ - E. Raymond Capt