Where is Jesus physically now?

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Happy2020

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RoxanaOfPersia said:
Do we know that he HAS a physical being?[/QUO

Our souls again are the essence. An easy way to see that for yourself is a "dream". Every dream you have you know you are there and you "see" other people, but the image (the physical body) is not strong, but the essence is very much real. That is a taste of what the soul really is. The Soul like G-d has "no physical limits", such as time, matter, physicality, etc. Hence why in dreams you can jump from place to place.

Now when Jesus returns the 2nd time, just like Elijah did as John, the soul enters a "body" a "guf" (In Hebrew) to be able to exist in this physical world. I think whoever said "suit" is correct. The body is just a "suit" or "clothes" one MUST wear to be in this physical world. Why do you think demons desire the body of someone so much? They are so limited but when they get a body....oh they can make a big mess. So yes, Jesus is a soul and we do not know what he looks like or what he will look like when he returns..."but his sheep know him" (regardless).
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DorotheaSofia said:
I do not understand why. As Christians we pray to the Holy Spirit, who very clearly does not have a form or body or whatever. So whether or not Jesus has a body, even though I believe he does, doesn´t make any difference in praying to him. I´m afraid you will need to explain that to me, sorry
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If Jesus has no body, he does not exist.

Venerating a man no longer (earthly) living is a pagan practise.
 
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Then we are defiantly thinking and talking about a different God. You should check out YHWH He is awesome, and the ONLY true God. He is beyond time and space, He is all knowing and all powerful, He is Spirit and is everywhere and knows everything. He has absolutely no problem speaking with any of us made in His image even without a physical mouth, even if it's beyond our understanding. See but because of this disconnection this triune God was born into this world physically as Jesus. Jesus was born and lived His whole life never transgressing the Fathers will. See because Jesus was born of the Spirit of God and not of the flesh, not of Adam, Jesus was born as man was created to be, spiritually alive and connected to God. Because God love the world so much He showed His love like this, He gave His only Son over to be crucified by the rebels He blessed with everything, and that rejected Him anyway, to the point we killed His Son.

We nailed Him to the cross, and that's just the flesh, that's just what we could see, but on that cross the Father poured out the wrath due to us, He put our punishment on Him, and it says with this He was well pleased. We know about Jesus laying His life down, choosing to take the "hit", but very little do I ever hear the Fathers role in this mentioned. For us the Father was willing to exhaust all the wrath due to us out on His Sons head. His innocent Son who NEVER sinned with whom He was well pleased. The only innocent man to ever walk the earth, the only man that did not earn the wages of death, therefore death could not hold our King! Hallelujah!!!! This hits home hard to any of us with children we love.

See you should check out this God. After He resurrects your dead spirit and reconciles you yo Himself making you whole as you were created to be, opening your eyes in a way nothing else can and forever changing you you will see that imagining a Spirit speaking to you without a mouth is just plain laughable. That's my God.
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Please say 'communicate' if you are referring to the physical act of speech.
 
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RoxanaOfPersia said:
Do we know that he HAS a physical being?
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Yes, it was historically proven that Jesus lived. So he has had a body. If I believe in the resurrection which is the whole essence of Christianity, he after his death rose and still had a body. And then, the bible says he ascended to heaven. He did not stop having a body!
 
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No. 'Jesus' is a name by which was used to identify the body in which God inhabited. Jesus' essence is that of God's.
 
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DorotheaSofia said:
Yes, it was historically proven that Jesus lived. So he has had a body. If I believe in the resurrection which is the whole essence of Christianity, he after his death rose and still had a body. And then, the bible says he ascended to heaven. He did not stop having a body!
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Okay. Do you know where he is physically?
 
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Happy2020 said:
Thank you :) aha where do you get this awesome photos? They are so nice!
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Thank you, Happy, and you are welcome :) I design these panels out of bits and pieces I collect on forays around the world wide web, with the specific purpose of displaying Scripture verses :) They are like collages ;):D Digital collages :)
 
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DorotheaSofia said:
Yes, it was historically proven that Jesus lived. So he has had a body. If I believe in the resurrection which is the whole essence of Christianity, he after his death rose and still had a body. And then, the bible says he ascended to heaven. He did not stop having a body!
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Also, in 1 Timothy 2:5, Paul calls Jesus "the man Jesus Christ," Who is our sole mediator :)

For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus
 
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Magenta said:
Thank you, Happy, and you are welcome :) I design these panels out of bits and pieces I collect on forays around the world wide web, with the specific purpose of displaying Scripture verses :) They are like collages ;):D Digital collages :)
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Wow!!! Do you sell them online? You could make a business out of it or at least a website to share your creations with others! :) Wow that is so cool. Just try and avoid pictures of heavenly things, just a wee bit of advice. I am impressed nevertheless! Good stuff!
 
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RoxanaOfPersia said:
If Jesus has no body, he does not exist.
Venerating a man no longer (earthly) living is a pagan practise.
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First of all, thanks for teaching me a new word ;) i´m not a native speaker...
Basically, I believe that venerating as you so nicely put it, is right because the bible tells us to.
Philippians 2:10-11 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
[11] and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
And as you said before, and that makes the difference: Jesus is both and fully, God and man. If he were merely a man, it would not be right to venerate him, I agree.
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Okay. Do you know where he is physically?
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I said before, i do not and and I also said before, that is no reason for not believing in him.
 
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RoxanaOfPersia said:
No. 'Jesus' is a name by which was used to identify the body in which God inhabited. Jesus' essence is that of God's.
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I disagree. And actually you said the same earlier. Jesus essence is that of a man and that of God.
 
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Happy2020 said:
Wow!!! Do you sell them online? You could make a business out of it or at least a website to share your creations with others! :) Wow that is so cool. Just try and avoid pictures of heavenly things, just a wee bit of advice. I am impressed nevertheless! Good stuff!
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Thank you once again, Happy, though a stipulation of a few of the websites where I source some of my "elements" (that is what I tend to call the individual pieces, such as each butterfly, or flower, etc) is that they are for personal use only, and not commercial gain, and I am quite fine with that :) I do have a thread here where I show many of them off; I have it linked in my auto siggy as "Scripture Art" ;) Also, I am aware that some people are offended by or at least object to depictions of Jesus, and so I have largely desisted from constructing such, and have turned more recently to designing my own angels :D
 
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RoxanaOfPersia

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NOTE: I have been incorrectly employing the word ephemeral. I am searching for a correct replacement. God is immaterial 'spirit' and omnipresent.
 
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RoxanaOfPersia said:
NOTE: I have been incorrectly employing the word ephemeral. I am searching for a correct replacement. God is immaterial 'spirit' and omnipresent.
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Oh I was wondering and I was about to ask you why you think that. Question resolved;)
 
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Thank you once again, Happy, though a stipulation of a few of the websites where I source some of my "elements" (that is what I tend to call the individual pieces, such as each butterfly, or flower, etc) is that they are for personal use only, and not commercial gain, and I am quite fine with that :) I do have a thread here where I show many of them off; I have it linked in my auto siggy as "Scripture Art" ;) Also, I am aware that some people are offended by or at least object to depictions of Jesus, and so I have largely desisted from constructing such, and have turned more recently to designing my own angels :D
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Awww that is super cool of you! That is also very nice of you to hold back from commercial gain! Yofi!! (Beautiful)! How long have you been doing this? Plus I went on a sight called LoveMagenta but I am not sure if that's you LOL. You also seem well versed in the bible. Do you study a lot or did you go to Seminary?
 
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Magenta said:
Jesus is not physical by definition either. He is the Light and Life of men :)
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People get stuck on the physical...because its what the eyes can see and the "flesh" can relate too. That is a big limitation for some and hence they cannot "see" the real meaning. Best to pray for them :)
 
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