Where Is Mother Teresa Now?

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This.. ^ This reply right here should have been what ALL of you put as an answer to the question in the OP..
That's interesting. Even if as a Catholic you would be required to believe as a law of the Catholic fathers she is here with us as a disembodied worker with a familiar spirit called a Patron Saint and all you need is a image idol and her help in your time of need is available just as well as the 3500 and rising workers as part of the official list ?
 

blue_ladybug

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That's interesting. Even if as a Catholic you would be required to believe as a law of the Catholic fathers she is here with us as a disembodied worker with a familiar spirit called a Patron Saint and all you need is a image idol and her help in your time of need is available just as well as the 3500 and rising workers as part of the official list ?

But I'm NOT a catholic, and I know enough not to worship a dead person, OR their image. And Mary is NOT a "disembodied worker", she is bones and ashes. And that's all. She doesn't pray for us, she doesn't intercede to Jesus for us, and she cannot answer prayers. I rely on JESUS in my times of need. :) Mary is of absolutely zero use to me.
 

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2Cor 13:5 . . Examine yourselves to see whether you are living in faith.
Test yourselves. Do you not realize that Jesus Christ is in you? --unless, of
course, you fail the test.

Obviously, if Jesus Christ is in you, then it's safe to feel confident that he
hasn't abandoned you. But Teresa couldn't detect even the slightest glimmer
of the Lord's presence, and complained that "the place of God in my soul is
blank-- there is no God in me".

From her statement, which I assume was truthful, I can only conclude one
thing as to Teresa's spiritual status.

Rom 8:9 . . But you are not in the flesh; on the contrary, you are in the
spirit, if only the Spirit of God dwells in you. Whoever does not have the
Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

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I am pretty sure this woman is dead and her eternity, either up or down, is in Gods Sovereign hands.
Food for thought:

God the Son has a mother, and God the father says honor your father and mother. That's kind of where Catholics get all that Mary stuff.
 

blue_ladybug

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Food for thought:

God the Son has a mother, and God the father says honor your father and mother. That's kind of where Catholics get all that Mary stuff.
HAD a mother. Jesus died long before Mary did. And the catholics are deceived. Kind of hard to honor someone when they're dead, unless you pray to or for them. Or worship their image, as catholics and popes do.
 
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HAD a mother. Jesus died long before Mary did. And the catholics are deceived. Kind of hard to honor someone when they're dead, unless you pray to or for them. Or worship their image, as catholics and popes do.
Certainly nobody on Earth can see Mary anymore, but I'm sure God and/or Jesus can, in heaven, right? Wouldn't it dishonor his mother to send her to hell?
 

WebersHome

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Father Kolodiejchuk's book is especially handy for juxtaposing Teresa's
missionary beliefs and practices with those of the apostle Paul's. In doing so,
it becomes readily apparent that there was something very wrong in her
methods and in her association with Christianity.

Teresa's perpetual darkness, her spiritual dryness, her feelings of
abandonment, the absence of even the faintest glimmer of the Lord's
presence, her lack of faith, and her pretense, are especially inconsistent with
Paul's life-- whom I believe to be a far more reliable role model for
missionaries than Teresa was even on her best day.

Were I a seminary professor, I would make Teresa a mandatory subject for
aspiring missionaries; but not as a role model; rather, as an example of
going about a right thing in a wrong way: primarily to emphasize that the
one thing you do not want to do is go out on the mission field before being
very certain that Christ has not only called you, but will also partnership with
you.

There was a point in Paul's missionary journeys when he wanted to go to a
region called Bithynia; but God stopped him (Acts 16:7). Had Paul pressed
on independently, without God's approval, he would have been grossly
insubordinate in spite of the fact that it is Christ's wishes that his message
be spread abroad throughout the whole world in accordance with Matt
28:18-20.

There was nothing intrinsically wrong with Teresa's ambition to be a
missionary. Her wrong was in going it alone after once she realized that
Christ was not in it with her. Bottom line is: What Teresa did in India, she
did not do in faith; rather, she did it independently by sheer force of will.

If you've done any background on her, then I don't have to tell you that
Teresa was a little bulldog. Once she set her mind to a task, Teresa was a
D9 Caterpillar tractor and not easily deterred once she put things in gear.

Teresa's personality is neither rare nor unusual. All the really great achievers
are just like her; and known for persisting in the face of adversity, ill health,
and overwhelming personal problems. Nobody ever got rich by a half
hearted effort, nobody ever got to the moon by a half-hearted effort, and
nobody ever climbed Mt. Everest by a half-hearted effort. The old saying; No
Pain-No Gain, is still true whether you're struggling with your weight, your
career, your finances, the 100 meter backstroke, investing, or organizing a
neighborhood watch.

An outstanding example of the "Mother Teresa" attitude is found in US Navy
SEALS. They are a breed of men who absolutely refuse to be beaten . . at
anything. I once heard an ex-SEAL say, that if a group of SEALs were
playing hop-scotch, it would soon turn violent because they don't like to
lose.

At first, Teresa was confident that Christ wanted her in India; but it wasn't
long before she began to realize that he was not in it with her. However, she
stuck it out anyway because Teresa was tough, and she was determined to
fulfill her dream. But it is not God's wishes that Christ's missionaries serve him
in the strength of a Navy SEAL; rather, in the weakness, and the meekness,
of a slave's mentality.

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Teresa's darkness, her interior suffering, her lack of sensible consolation, her
spiritual dryness, an apparent absence of God from her life, and, at the
same time, a painful longing for His companionship, was virtually perpetual,
lasting very nearly five decades, from 1949 clear up to the very hour of her
death in 1997.

At the urging of Henry D'Souza, the Archbishop of Calcutta (a.k.a. Kolkata),
Teresa finally agreed to an exorcism in the final weeks of her life--
performed by Father Rosario Stroscio --if perchance demons were clouding
her mind.

Demons clouding Teresa of Calcutta's mind!? That is certainly not a very
appealing testimonial to her religion's value as a source of light and
consolation of God's sensible presence.

Father Stroscio, 79, said Mother Teresa appeared dazed and behaving
strangely at the time of the exorcism. I also know from another source that
Teresa was nervous about God in her last moments. Ironically, though she
was never really confident a God exists, she feared that if one did exist, it
wouldn't like her, and might be quite disposed to condemn her. Compare
Teresa's end-of-life experience with the apostle Paul's.

2Tim 4:6-8 . . I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my
departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course,
I have kept the faith: henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of
righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that
day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Paul's mind certainly wasn't clouded, nor was he dazed and behaving
strangely, nor was he in doubt about the existence of God, nor was he
nervous that if a God did exist, it might not like him; and possibly quite
disposed to condemn him. No, none of that because that is just simply not
the way New Testament Christianity works.

Php 4:6-9 . .Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by
prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And
the peace of God, which is beyond the intellect, will guard your hearts and
your minds in Christ Jesus. Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is
noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is
admirable-- if anything is excellent or praiseworthy --think about such
things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in
me-- put it into practice; and the God of peace will be with you.

Why did Teresa suffer with darkness, interior suffering, lack of sensible
consolation, spiritual dryness, an apparent absence of God from her life, fear
of the unknown, and, at the same time, a painful longing for God? Why
wasn't the peace of God, and the God of peace, with the most pious nun the
twentieth century ever produced? Duh. Because she failed to put into
practice whatever it was that the Christians at Philippi learned, received, and
heard from Paul. Anybody who knows the Bible can see that.

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Charles keating donate, I believe 1.25 million us dollar to Mother Teresa. Charles Keating stole more than 250 million from people I believe he own saving and loan bank. Mother Teresa wrote to the judge to act like Jesus and forgive Charles Keating.

below is part of they dialog.



You urge Judge Ito to look into his heart – as he sentences Charles Keating – and do what Jesus would do. I submit the same challenge to you.Ask yourself what Jesus would do if he were given the fruits of a crime; what Jesus would do if he were in possession of money that had been stolen; what Jesus would do if he were being exploited by a thief to ease his conscience? I submit that Jesus would promptly and unhesitatingly return the stolen property to its rightful owners. You should do the same. You have been given money by Mr. Keating that he has been convicted of stealing by fraud. Do not permit him the ‘indulgence’ he desires. Do not keep the money. Return it to those who worked for it and earned it!
If you contact me I will put you in direct contact with the rightful owners of the property now in your possession.
[FONT=&quot]To this day Paul W. Turley awaits a reply from Mother Teresa, as do the thousands of people Charles Keating swindled. If she is the shining light of Catholic Christian values; the torch barer of all that is moral and good, we are constantly told by the religious only those with faith in God can espouse and exude, you’ll forgive me if I don’t hold my breath while waiting for someone to effectually excuse her simple inability to read the above, understand its modest requests and act appropriately.[/FONT]
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if she didnt accept Christ as her savior, she's in hell. Period.

If Hitler repented and asked for forgiveness and believed in Christ for his salvation before he took his life, he's in Heaven.
Period.

Anyone disagree?
 
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if she didnt accept Christ as her savior, she's in hell. Period.

If Hitler repented and asked for forgiveness and believed in Christ for his salvation before he took his life, he's in Heaven.
Period.

Anyone disagree?
When will people see that it's not about what you do but rather where your faith is placed. Faith placed in the right place will allow the Holy Spirit to produce good work through you. Amen
 

Radius

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When will people see that it's not about what you do but rather where your faith is placed. Faith placed in the right place will allow the Holy Spirit to produce good work through you. Amen
yes and it also goes to show that faith if Jesus as your savior is stronger than all of your works, whether good or bad. It's only by faith that we enter into the Kingdom of God.
 

WebersHome

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Teresa's early confidence was based entirely upon fantasy. Let me explain.

September of 1946, Teresa, then 36 years old, was sent to her annual
retreat and a needed rest, to the Loreto convent in Darjeeling, a town
nestled in the foothills of the Himalayas, some 400 miles north of Calcutta
(a.k.a. Kolkata).

On the 10th, she's alleged to have experienced a "mystical encounter" with
Christ. This encounter would be only the first of several that would occur
that year. But lest you make the mistake of assuming that Teresa actually
eye-witnessed an apparition, or that she actually heard sounds with her own
ears; let me explain something that's crucial to keeping Teresa's experience
in the proper perspective.

Her so-called encounters are what's known as locutions (supernatural words)
viz: manifestations of God's thoughts; which may come through words heard
externally (exterior or auricular locutions) or in the imagination (interior
imaginative locutions) or immediately without any words (interior intellectual
locutions) viz: intuition. Teresa's locutions were of the interior imaginative
variety; viz: she didn't actually hear any voices nor did she see anybody; no,
it all took place in her imagination.

Teresa claims that the Jesus in one of her locutions promised her: "Do not
fear-- I shall be with you always."

Was "Jesus" with her always? Not even! In no time at all, her Jesus vanished
and Teresa went on to endure nearly five decades feeling abandoned by
Christ; and yearning for even the slightest glimmer of his presence.

"I am told God loves me; and yet the reality of darkness & coldness &
emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul."

"When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting
emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my
very soul. How painful is this unknown pain-- I have no faith."

"Now Father-- since 49 or 50 this terrible sense of loss-- this untold
darkness-- this loneliness, this continual longing for God-- which gives me
pain deep down in my heart-- Darkness is such that I really do not see
neither with my mind nor with my reason-- the place of God in my soul is
blank-- There is no God in me-- when the pain of longing is so great-- I just
long & long for God-- and then it is that I feel-- He does not want me-- He is
not there-- God does not want me-- Sometimes-- I just hear my own heart
cry out-- "My God" and nothing else comes-- the torture and pain I can't
explain"

"The damned of Hell suffer eternal punishment because they experiment
with the loss of God. In my own soul, I feel the terrible pain of this loss. I
feel that God does not want me, that God is not God; and that He does not
really exist."

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When Steve Jobs expired in 2011, Apple fans the world over mourned his
passing. But the reality is: they didn't mourn Jobs because relatively few
people were ever close enough to him to know the kind of man he was. No,
the world mourned the loss of an iconic image rather than a man. But even
though the truth about Jobs' despicable personality is now widely known,
people still admire him regardless because to despise Jobs is to despise
innovation, and the iPhone, the iPad, and the iPod-- who in their right mind
could possibly despise any of that?

It's the same with Mother Teresa. Relatively few people were ever close
enough to know her mind the way it really was. But even though the truth
about Teresa's deplorable spiritual condition is now widely available, people
still think she's the cat's meow among Christian missionaries due to her
power over their minds as an iconic image; much the same way that Che
Guevara has become a cultural symbol for every kind of rebellion imaginable
in spite of his Marxist politics.

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what difference does it make, her spirit is asleep and eventually she will be confronting,
standing before her Maker at the Judgment Seat of Christ,
just like all the rest of us...
 
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what difference does it make, her spirit is asleep and eventually she will be confronting,
standing before her Maker at the Judgment Seat of Christ,
just like all the rest of us...

At physical death we go to our eternal destination.
At the end we shall be in front of Christ at either:
1) Bema Seat (Abiding Believers)
2) Great White Throne Judgment (Unbelievers and disobedient)

If we're discussing the woman named Theresa (why would we call her mother?), if she repented of and denounced her Roman Catholic doctrine and belief before death then sure, she may appear before the Bema seat. Only God knows.
 

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Teresa's darkness, her interior suffering, her lack of sensible consolation, her
spiritual dryness, an apparent absence of God from her life, and, at the
same time, a painful longing for His companionship, was virtually perpetual,
lasting five decades, from 1947 clear up to the very hour of her death in
1997.

At the urging of Henry D'Souza, the Archbishop of Calcutta (a.k.a. Kolkata),
Teresa finally agreed to an exorcism in the final weeks of her life--
performed by Father Rosario Stroscio --if perchance demons were clouding
her mind.

Demons clouding Teresa of Calcutta's mind!? That is certainly not a very
appealing testimonial to her religion's value as a source of light and
consolation of God's sensible presence.

Father Stroscio, 79, said Mother Teresa appeared dazed and behaving
strangely at the time of the exorcism. I also know from another source that
Teresa was nervous about God in her last moments. Ironically, though she
was never really confident a God exists, she feared that if one did exist, it
wouldn't like her, and might be quite disposed to condemn her. Compare
Teresa's end-of-life experience with the apostle Paul's.

2Tim 4:6-8 . . I am now ready to be offered, and the time of m
departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course,
I have kept the faith: henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of
righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that
day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Paul's mind certainly wasn't clouded, nor was he dazed and behaving
strangely, nor was he in doubt about the existence of God, nor was he
nervous that if a God did exist, it might not like him; and possibly quite
disposed to condemn him. No, none of that because that is just simply not
the way New Testament Christianity works.

Php 4:6-9 . .Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by
prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And
the peace of God, which is beyond the intellect, will guard your hearts and
your minds in Christ Jesus. Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is
noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is
admirable-- if anything is excellent or praiseworthy --think about such
things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in
me-- put it into practice; and the God of peace will be with you.

Why did Teresa suffer with anxiety, with darkness, with interior suffering,
with a lack of sensible consolation, with spiritual dryness, with an apparent
absence of God from her life, with fear of the unknown, and, at the same
time, with a painful longing for God? Why wasn't the peace of God, and the
God of peace, with the most pious nun the twentieth century ever produced?
Duh. Because she failed to put into practice whatever it was that the
Christians at Philippi learned, received, and heard from Paul. Anybody who
knows the Bible can see that.

/
 
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Every Christian in America knows how wicked the Roman Catholic Church is. The media thinks that Catholics represent the true Christian Church. The sad thing is people believe all this false doctrine and still think that they're going to heaven. Let's expose all false doctrines and liftup the name of Jesus. 1. Pray to God not Mary Exodus20:3-6. 2. Confess your sins to God 1John1:9 3. You can't pray someone out of hell so purgatory does not exist. Hebrews 9:27 4. Only Jesus can save you. John14:6 5. The Pope claims to be sinless that blasphemous. Jesus is the only one to never sin. Rom3:23, Romans6:23, 2Cor5:21, 1John1:5-6, 7-9. Ephesians5:11 good night Preacha24-7
 

epostle

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Teresa's darkness, her interior suffering, her lack of sensible consolation, her
spiritual dryness, an apparent absence of God from her life, and, at the
same time, a painful longing for His companionship, was virtually perpetual,
lasting five decades, from 1947 clear up to the very hour of her death in
1997.

At the urging of Henry D'Souza, the Archbishop of Calcutta (a.k.a. Kolkata),
Teresa finally agreed to an exorcism in the final weeks of her life--
performed by Father Rosario Stroscio --if perchance demons were clouding
her mind.

Demons clouding Teresa of Calcutta's mind!? That is certainly not a very
appealing testimonial to her religion's value as a source of light and
consolation of God's sensible presence.

Father Stroscio, 79, said Mother Teresa appeared dazed and behaving
strangely at the time of the exorcism. I also know from another source that
Teresa was nervous about God in her last moments. Ironically, though she
was never really confident a God exists, she feared that if one did exist, it
wouldn't like her, and might be quite disposed to condemn her. Compare
Teresa's end-of-life experience with the apostle Paul's.

2Tim 4:6-8 . . I am now ready to be offered, and the time of m
departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course,
I have kept the faith: henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of
righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that
day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Paul's mind certainly wasn't clouded, nor was he dazed and behaving
strangely, nor was he in doubt about the existence of God, nor was he
nervous that if a God did exist, it might not like him; and possibly quite
disposed to condemn him. No, none of that because that is just simply not
the way New Testament Christianity works.

Php 4:6-9 . .Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by
prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And
the peace of God, which is beyond the intellect, will guard your hearts and
your minds in Christ Jesus. Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is
noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is
admirable-- if anything is excellent or praiseworthy --think about such
things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in
me-- put it into practice; and the God of peace will be with you.

Why did Teresa suffer with anxiety, with darkness, with interior suffering,
with a lack of sensible consolation, with spiritual dryness, with an apparent
absence of God from her life, with fear of the unknown, and, at the same
time, with a painful longing for God? Why wasn't the peace of God, and the
God of peace, with the most pious nun the twentieth century ever produced?
Duh. Because she failed to put into practice whatever it was that the
Christians at Philippi learned, received, and heard from Paul. Anybody who
knows the Bible can see that.

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A crack head will mug an old lady because his selfish needs overrides his reason.

You are slandering a woman of heroic virtue and grossly misrepresenting a book to meet some sick need. You are on several forums using identical posts, probably pastes from your web site. Do you think your crusade is normal behavior?

It's really the theology of redemptive suffering you hate, isn't it? The Catholic Church is your imaginary enemy, not a real one.

The only people who like your garbage are the ones on a steady diet of it. That's why the bigots are so fat, you keep feeding them.


 

epostle

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Every Christian in America knows how wicked the Roman Catholic Church is. The media thinks that Catholics represent the true Christian Church. The sad thing is people believe all this false doctrine and still think that they're going to heaven. Let's expose all false doctrines and liftup the name of Jesus. 1. Pray to God not Mary Exodus20:3-6. 2. Confess your sins to God 1John1:9 3. You can't pray someone out of hell so purgatory does not exist. Hebrews 9:27 4. Only Jesus can save you. John14:6 5. The Pope claims to be sinless that blasphemous. Jesus is the only one to never sin. Rom3:23, Romans6:23, 2Cor5:21, 1John1:5-6, 7-9. Ephesians5:11 good night Preacha24-7
That's 6 topics, which proves you are indisposed.