Which is bondage?

[Scuba]

Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart,
and you will find rest for your souls.For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.
(Matthew 11:28-30)

is the Lord of the Sabbath able to give me rest during only a seventh of my days?

even now our Priest has sat down to wait and no longer labors to bring sacrifices:

But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet.
(Hebrews 10:12-13)

shall we do our own works 6 days of 7? or daily take up Christ and put away the works of the flesh?

for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his.
(Hebrews 4:10)

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these.
(Galatians 5:19-21)

if every day we forsake the work of the flesh and pursue the work of the Spirit, which work is done not of ourselves but of the power of Christ living within us, do we not by this enter into His rest?
my body may rest on a seventh day, but the Sabbath of my soul is eternal!

Can you really rest if you have a burden and a yoke? Do you really think Jesus was doing away with the seventh day Sabbath with His light burden and easy yoke or was He restoring the blessings to the seventh day with His easy yoke and a light burden? When Jesus taught us how to honor the seventh day He was removing all the religious ritualism that was placed on the Sabbath by man. The people even rejoiced at the teachings of Jesus regarding how to honor the Sabbath.

Luke 13:14-17 But the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath; and he said to the crowd, “There are six days on which men ought to work; therefore come and be healed on them, and not on the Sabbath day.” The Lord then answered him and said, “Hypocrite! Does not each one of you on the Sabbath loose his ox or donkey from the stall, and lead it away to water it? So ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has bound—think of it—for eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath?” And when He said these things, all His adversaries were put to shame; and all the multitude rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by Him.

Was Jesus doing away with the seventh day Sabbath in the above verses or was He correcting and removing all the legalism and ritualism from the seventh day Sabbath? Jesus did not do away with the seventh day Sabbath nor did He change it to another day.

 

[Scuba]

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I sent your founder an email once regarding the truth about God's special day. He never got back to me. I give you permission to cut and paste this reply and send it to him.

If your founder really wants to honor the Sabbath that you teach and believe he should be closed every day of the week. I don't think he would be in business very long if he did.

Jesus said His burden is light and His yoke is easy. Can you really rest if you have a burden and a yoke? Do you really think Jesus was doing away with the seventh day Sabbath with His light burden and easy yoke or was He restoring the blessings to the seventh day with His easy yoke and a light burden? When Jesus taught us how to honor the seventh day He was removing all the religious ritualism that was placed on the Sabbath by man. The people even rejoiced at the teachings of Jesus regarding how to honor the Sabbath.

Luke 13:14-17 But the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath; and he said to the crowd, “There are six days on which men ought to work; therefore come and be healed on them, and not on the Sabbath day.” The Lord then answered him and said, “Hypocrite! Does not each one of you on the Sabbath loose his ox or donkey from the stall, and lead it away to water it? So ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has bound—think of it—for eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath?” And when He said these things, all His adversaries were put to shame; and all the multitude rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by Him.

Was Jesus doing away with the seventh day Sabbath in the above verses or was He correcting and removing all the legalism and ritualism from the seventh day Sabbath? Jesus did not do away with the seventh day Sabbath nor did He change it to another day.

 

[Delivery]

Which is bondage?

Obeying God every day of the week, which includes, taking the seventh day off from your job to gather for sacred assembly and for enjoying the day that God blessed and set apart for that very purpose?

Or

Being fearful of falling from grace because obeying the commandments of God at any point during the week causes you to violate your seven day Sabbath?

Bondage comes through feeling guilty and condemned for your sins and disobedience. Nobody who is saved is in bondage any more because Jesus frees us from the bondage of sin, and gives us assurance that we are forgiven and our place in God's heavenly kingdom is secure.

8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

You are delivered from the bondage of corruption into liberty and freedom from sin by believing in Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, who gave himself for your sins.

8:32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

8:33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[posthuman]

Can you really rest if you have a burden and a yoke?

then what is this rest that Jesus offers?

 

[Scuba]

then what is this rest that Jesus offers?

Under the old covenant the people of God were never really able to stand completely clean and blameless before God and everything that was done to make us acceptable in His sight was done with a meritorious mindset. This is not so in Christ. Being in Christ there is a real sense of relief and rest in knowing the we are made acceptable to God because of the work of Christ and not anything that we did or can do.

Ephesians 1:6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved.

But this rest that we have in Christ does not mean our obedience is now made void or unpleasing to God, it just means the motive is different. Honoring the seventh day is not done with a meritorious mindset as though we are trying earn God's approval. We are already loved and approved of by God whether we love Him or not. Expressing our love for Him and others is done though our obedience. Our obedience is not the means by which we get God to love us or accept us it's the fruit of appreciation that He already does love us and already does accept us. This will birth a desire in you to practice righteousness.

1 John 2:29 If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.

In Adam we a have a birth defect. In Christ that birth defect is corrected. Practicing righteousness is the fruit of the new birth, not the means to it.

 

[Hashe]

Why are you breaking the sabbath and 'working' on the Sabbath, Scuba? Clearly you don't hold the Sabbath to biblical standards. I'm not sure why you expect others to do so, when you don't.

 

[Scuba]

Why are you breaking the sabbath and 'working' on the Sabbath, Scuba? Clearly you don't hold the Sabbath to biblical standards. I'm not sure why you expect others to do so, when you don't.

That's the pharisaical mindset that Jesus came to do away with.

 

[Scuba]

If your boss told you to take the day off every Wednesday with pay to spend time with your family and enjoy fellowship with your friends and just enjoy the day in honor of when he opened his business would you complain? So why do you complain when the Creator of heaven and earth does the same thing?

 

[Hashe]

If your boss told you to take the day off every Wednesday with pay to spend time with your family and enjoy fellowship with your friends and just enjoy the day in honor of when he opened his business would you complain? So why do you complain when the Creator of heaven and earth does the same thing?

It wasn't us - ask Paul, if you get to heaven.

 

[Scuba]

It'sE=Hashe;1634953]It wasn't us - ask Paul, if you get to heaven.[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to heaven but if you are it's going to be a lonely place.

 

[vic1980]

Which is bondage?

Obeying God every day of the week, which includes, taking the seventh day off from your job to gather for sacred assembly and for enjoying the day that God blessed and set apart for that very purpose?

Or

Being fearful of falling from grace because obeying the commandments of God at any point during the week causes you to violate your seven day Sabbath?

Question: Where did the apostles of Jesus Christ, commanded Gentiles to uphold this commandment. if it was of much importance would they filled with the Holyspirit. have not given notice and warning about it to the belivers in Christ Jesus ?

Are we to walk in the spirit ,and love one another to fullfill the law all of them. yes ?

God Bless

 

[Scuba]

Question: Where did the apostles of Jesus Christ, commanded Gentiles to uphold this commandment. if it was of much importance would they filled with the Holyspirit. have not given notice and warning about it to the belivers in Christ Jesus ?

Are we to walk in the spirit ,and love one another to fullfill the law all of them. yes ?

God Bless

Everyone knew which day the Sabbath was, it was no secret to be revealed. The day of sacred assembly continued as planned but how the day was to be honored and what was allowed on such a sacred day as the seventh day Sabbath is what needed to be explained. Jesus taught many many times on how to honor the seventh day, there was no need to tell them which day it was. Listen to these next verses and tell me if Jesus was teaching us which day the Sabbath was or was He teaching us how to behave on the Sabbath?

Luke 13:14-17 But the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath; and he said to the crowd, “There are six days on which men ought to work; therefore come and be healed on them, and not on the Sabbath day.” The Lord then answered him and said, “Hypocrite! Does not each one of you on the Sabbath loose his ox or donkey from the stall, and lead it away to water it? So ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has bound—think of it—for eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath?” And when He said these things, all His adversaries were put to shame; and all the multitude rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by Him.

Was Jesus doing away with the seventh day Sabbath in the above verses or was He correcting and removing all the legalism and ritualism from the seventh day Sabbath? Jesus did not do away with the seventh day Sabbath nor did He change it to another day. Paul and the early church gathered every Sabbath.

Acts 13:44On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

Just because Jesus never said, "Thou must remember to keep the Sabbath holy" does not mean it's no longer to be kept holy. Jesus never said homosexuality was wrong either but we know that it is. The teachings of Jesus focused on how to keep the Sabbath holy and not once did He refer to Sunday.

 

[homwardbound]

Either one is one with God or not, over and out, that is what is and has shown us all by Son, so just walk in love to all, by god's love to you
So now find out how deep is his love, for I know no man that can love any deeper than what they are loved, do you?
1 John 4:19
We love him, because he first loved us.
[h=1]Ephesians 3:16-18Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)[/h] [SUP]16 [/SUP]that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; [SUP]17 [/SUP]that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, [SUP]18 [/SUP]may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

 

[Skinski7]

Which is bondage?

Obeying God every day of the week, which includes, taking the seventh day off from your job to gather for sacred assembly and for enjoying the day that God blessed and set apart for that very purpose?

Or

Being fearful of falling from grace because obeying the commandments of God at any point during the week causes you to violate your seven day Sabbath?

Both answers are presented within the context of a false paradigm. We are warned in the Bible about the error of a false paradigm. Paul referred to such a thing as oppositions of knowledge falsely so called. One of the most effective techniques which can be applied to manipulate people is to limit critical thought and perception by the presentation of a limited paradigm. In other words one can present two choices and imply that people are to believe one or the other. Politics use this technique all the time as it relates to left versus right.

Anyway back the topic on hand.


Bondage is enslavement.

One can be enslaved in more than one way to something.

Sinners are in bondage to sin. How so? Well they keep sinning. Sin is their master and they keep on serving that master.

Saints are in bondage to righteousness. How so? Well they keep on abiding in the Spirit of life in Jesus Christ and therefore grow in His grace and knowledge. Faith is added to.

What of the bondage mentioned in Galations? Well that is a reference to the idea that law keeping helps make one right with God. The error of the Galatians was focusing on outward rule keeping instead of inward spirit abiding.

"Outward Rule Keeping Focus" is the opposite of "Inward Spirit Abiding Focus."

The Pharisees were experts on focusing on outward rule keeping, yet what did Jesus say about them? He spoke of their hearts. Jesus stated that the Pharisees were like ornate coffins, pretty on the outside and dead on the inside. Jesus told them to cleanse first that which is within so that the outside may then be clean.

Likewise Paul said to the Galatians...

Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

and...

Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

So what does that have to do with bondage? Well...

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

That is what the Scripture teaches.

 

[Scuba]

Sinners are in bondage to sin. How so? Well they keep sinning. Sin is their master and they keep on serving that master.

Saints are in bondage to righteousness. How so? Well they keep on abiding in the Spirit of life in Jesus Christ and therefore grow in His grace and knowledge. Faith is added to.

Outward rule keeping and inward abiding in the Spirit look the same to onlookers. You can not steal because of a rule or you can not steal because you have the Spirit of God indwelling you. In both incidents the person does not steal.

Onlookers don't see the motive for the person not stealing until they really get to know the person and learn why he didn't steal. One motive is love and the other motive is rule. Both accomplish the same task but one is Old Covenant and the other is New Covenant. One looks down on the other who steals and condemns them and the other understands that stealing is a heart issue and tries to help the person. One draws their value and self worth from their ability of not to steal and the other draws his value and self worth in the fact that God loves him whether he steals or not.

 

[homwardbound]

And then one will forsake stealing, killing and destroying, when by this they revcieve the new life that Christ came to give by the resurrected Christ not the dead one
[h=1]John 10:10Living Bible (TLB)[/h] [SUP]10 [/SUP]The thief’s purpose is to steal, kill and destroy. My purpose is to give life in all its fullness.

 

[RedTent]

LOL, who is living in Egypt...not me I live in the USA and I have the freedom to worship when and where I want to what ever place and time I choose to be a good fit

If you can't understand symbolism, you can't understand much of the bible. Our world reflects the spiritual world, in order to explain the spiritual God uses things in our world to illustrate them.

 

[RedTent]

This is beating a dead horse! We are in the last days and demons are taking over. They have entered the minds and hearts of many who call themselves the church to tell them to cancel the ten commandments and disobey Christ when He counseled to keep His commandments. Many of the very words from the Lord are used by them to back up this idea. Through that they have undermined the real church. We are told this will happen, and this is only giving demons a platform to spread their deadly word. Anyone opposed to this idea is said to send all who use Sunday as Sabbath to hell, and anyone who does not join them as "lawkeepers", making that into a dirty word.

 

[homwardbound]

If you can't understand symbolism, you can't understand much of the bible. Our world reflects the spiritual world, in order to explain the spiritual God uses things in our world to illustrate them.

Yes physical analogies to bring home Spiritual realities. Everything thing we see is temporal, all we do not is eternal, so literal observation deflects and love of God keeps one on the track of God by Son's love for us to be perfect to God, for this is how God sees us through Son the only perfect one that covers us by his blood, we are safe the same as the day the Hebrews were delivered, safe with the blood of the coming perfect lamb Christ Jesus. Blood is the payment has been from day one of the fall. Christ's blood is the final sacrifice for us all, whether we observe this or that. Bottom line is are we at peace?

 

[homwardbound]

This is beating a dead horse! We are in the last days and demons are taking over. They have entered the minds and hearts of many who call themselves the church to tell them to cancel the ten commandments and disobey Christ when He counseled to keep His commandments. Many of the very words from the Lord are used by them to back up this idea. Through that they have undermined the real church. We are told this will happen, and this is only giving demons a platform to spread their deadly word. Anyone opposed to this idea is said to send all who use Sunday as Sabbath to hell, and anyone who does not join them as "lawkeepers", making that into a dirty word.

The last days began at the resurrected Christ, when he took the keys from the Devil and took captivity captive, The prince of this world judged, defeated, lost, destroyed, and this new life in Christ gives us life in Spirit and truth, to love all, the same.
What is not judged is one's carnal nature, and it is up to each individual person to judge this and decide to serve God or self periodm just as is the way I see it. I can't serve me and God. I serve one or the other. I choose to be God's bond-servant as I think you do as well, right?