Who is the beast that was and is not?
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Thinking of possibilities to disregard the clear teaching of scripture 
Scripture doesn't state "spirit", why would you "Add" to Scripture
Daniel clearly explains that (The Beast/Little Horn) has a human body that will be given to the burning flame, in perfect agreement with Revelation 19:20
Daniel 7:11KJV
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Scripture doesn't state "spirit", why would you "Add" to Scripture
Daniel clearly explains that (The Beast/Little Horn) has a human body that will be given to the burning flame, in perfect agreement with Revelation 19:20
Daniel 7:11KJV
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Sorry, my friend, but it is you who is in complete denial of truth presented by John in his writing and by me as I remind you of what John wrote.
For example: YOU IMAGINE "parallel" teachings. It is not proven and will never be, for John takes us straight through time.
Oh, don't misunderstand me: from chapter 11 to chapter 19, there are 5 separate parallel paths; actually 5 countdowns to the end:
42 months of trampling
1260 days of testifying
1260 days of fleeing
3.5 years of supernatural protection
42 months of authority
All running at the same time, all counting down simultaneously. However, they have staggered beginnings. These five countdowns do not begin at the same time.
Why not just believe what John wrote? The "mystery" at the 7th trumpet is no longer a mystery: we understand that at the 7th trumpet, Adam's 6000 year lease has run out. Suddenly the lease Satan usurped to become the god of this world has ENDED. So the kingdoms of the world are taken from Satan had given to Jesus Christ and from that moment Jesus then reigns over His spiritual kingdom but ALSO over physical earth. And the first thing He does is delegate 42 months of authority to the Beast.
Then when Michael hears that 7th trumpet, that will be his signal to go to war with Satan and cast Him down. The war in heaven will take place right after the midpoint division of the week.
Then chapter 13 is the rise of the Antichrist Beast's kingdom.
Chapter 14 tells us of God's warning to earth by three angels. If people take the mark, they are doomed.
Chapter 15 shows us the start of the days of great tribulation (GT) as the beheaded begin to show up in heaven.
Chapter 16 then shows us God shortening those days of GT by the vials of His wrath. Finally the week ends with the 7th vial.
No parallels: that is imagination.
For example: YOU IMAGINE "parallel" teachings. It is not proven and will never be, for John takes us straight through time.
Oh, don't misunderstand me: from chapter 11 to chapter 19, there are 5 separate parallel paths; actually 5 countdowns to the end:
42 months of trampling
1260 days of testifying
1260 days of fleeing
3.5 years of supernatural protection
42 months of authority
All running at the same time, all counting down simultaneously. However, they have staggered beginnings. These five countdowns do not begin at the same time.
Why not just believe what John wrote? The "mystery" at the 7th trumpet is no longer a mystery: we understand that at the 7th trumpet, Adam's 6000 year lease has run out. Suddenly the lease Satan usurped to become the god of this world has ENDED. So the kingdoms of the world are taken from Satan had given to Jesus Christ and from that moment Jesus then reigns over His spiritual kingdom but ALSO over physical earth. And the first thing He does is delegate 42 months of authority to the Beast.
Then when Michael hears that 7th trumpet, that will be his signal to go to war with Satan and cast Him down. The war in heaven will take place right after the midpoint division of the week.
Then chapter 13 is the rise of the Antichrist Beast's kingdom.
Chapter 14 tells us of God's warning to earth by three angels. If people take the mark, they are doomed.
Chapter 15 shows us the start of the days of great tribulation (GT) as the beheaded begin to show up in heaven.
Chapter 16 then shows us God shortening those days of GT by the vials of His wrath. Finally the week ends with the 7th vial.
No parallels: that is imagination.
Thinking of possibilities to disregard the clear teaching of scripture
Daniel clearly explains that (The Beast/Little Horn) has a human body that will be given to the burning flame, in perfect agreement with Revelation 19:20
Daniel 7:11KJV
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Daniel clearly explains that (The Beast/Little Horn) has a human body that will be given to the burning flame, in perfect agreement with Revelation 19:20
Daniel 7:11KJV
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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Ephesians 6:10-12
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
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Our struggle is not against flesh and blood.
What struggle is there for us against the beast and false prophet if they are mere flesh and blood?
Therefore, the beast and false prophet are either demons, or spiritual forces of evil, or schemes of the devil.
Ephesians 6:10-12
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
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Our struggle is not against flesh and blood.
What struggle is there for us against the beast and false prophet if they are mere flesh and blood?
Therefore, the beast and false prophet are either demons, or spiritual forces of evil, or schemes of the devil.
The man of sin is the false prophet.
But your perspective is of flesh and blood.
You see the man of sin as flesh, not as an evil spiritual force.
Therefore you see him as one man who can only live for one lifetime ~80 yrs.
The man of sin is to be looked as an evil spiritual force which reigns indefinitely on this earth until he (it) is thrown "alive" into the lake of fire.
The man of sin is an evil spiritual force that resides in one man until he dies, and then it resides in that man's successor. The fleshly man is not important for there will be many men that serve as false prophet. The spiritual force that is behind this fleshly succession of men is what's important.
But your perspective is of flesh and blood.
You see the man of sin as flesh, not as an evil spiritual force.
Therefore you see him as one man who can only live for one lifetime ~80 yrs.
The man of sin is to be looked as an evil spiritual force which reigns indefinitely on this earth until he (it) is thrown "alive" into the lake of fire.
The man of sin is an evil spiritual force that resides in one man until he dies, and then it resides in that man's successor. The fleshly man is not important for there will be many men that serve as false prophet. The spiritual force that is behind this fleshly succession of men is what's important.
you mean we can just add them or subtract them ourselves?
Daniel 7 does not mention the blasphemous names because Daniel 7 does not speak of the false prophet. Daniel 7 refers to the beasts that operated without the false prophet. Daniel 7 refers to beasts leading up to the time of Jesus of Nazerath. Hence why the Daniel 7 beasts do not have diadems and why the heads do not have blasphemous names.
Rev 13 the 1st beast, which is a representation of all the beasts to come after the time of Jesus of Nazareth, all will operate with a false prophet (2nd beast). This is why every horn has a diadem and every head has on it a blasphemous name. The beast and false prophet work together after Jesus of Nazareth.
Daniel 7 does not mention the blasphemous names because Daniel 7 does not speak of the false prophet. Daniel 7 refers to the beasts that operated without the false prophet. Daniel 7 refers to beasts leading up to the time of Jesus of Nazerath. Hence why the Daniel 7 beasts do not have diadems and why the heads do not have blasphemous names.
Rev 13 the 1st beast, which is a representation of all the beasts to come after the time of Jesus of Nazareth, all will operate with a false prophet (2nd beast). This is why every horn has a diadem and every head has on it a blasphemous name. The beast and false prophet work together after Jesus of Nazareth.
They are the SAME EVENT, the Little Horn is the Anri-Christ Beast, surely you aren't arguing differently. The Anti-Christ is killed and hes thrown ALIVE as in never allowed to rest. God's word states every man must die and then be Judged.
And our Spirits are condemned to Eternal Damnation, but we now LIVE in Darkness, is Obama alive? Yes, is he evil? Yes, could he repent and get everlasting life in Jesus Christ like you and me? Yes. But will he? Who knows, but what we do know is hes ALIVE, and hes WICKED. So, those with Wicked Spirits can also be alive, as matter of fact the Wicked are all judged after a 1000 years, except the False Prophet and Anti-Christ are CAST ALIVE (meaning they are never allowed to go to the Grave).
These things are made complex by people who jump to conclusions instead of weighing the supposed contradictions out. So we can be dead and be ALIVE also, you and I were born in Sin thus we were DEAD but are now ALIVE, but we were ALIVE then as well, just not spiritually speaking, but you can be alive (LIVING) and be Wicked.
No, the Anti-Christ is a MAN (E.U. President) and the False Prophet is a MAN (Jewish High Priest gone rogue).
And our Spirits are condemned to Eternal Damnation, but we now LIVE in Darkness, is Obama alive? Yes, is he evil? Yes, could he repent and get everlasting life in Jesus Christ like you and me? Yes. But will he? Who knows, but what we do know is hes ALIVE, and hes WICKED. So, those with Wicked Spirits can also be alive, as matter of fact the Wicked are all judged after a 1000 years, except the False Prophet and Anti-Christ are CAST ALIVE (meaning they are never allowed to go to the Grave).
These things are made complex by people who jump to conclusions instead of weighing the supposed contradictions out. So we can be dead and be ALIVE also, you and I were born in Sin thus we were DEAD but are now ALIVE, but we were ALIVE then as well, just not spiritually speaking, but you can be alive (LIVING) and be Wicked.
No, the Anti-Christ is a MAN (E.U. President) and the False Prophet is a MAN (Jewish High Priest gone rogue).
It is THE END but it's not when Jesus Returns. The 7th Trump is the Last Judgment Tump, so is that not THE END? Yes, it's not the Fourth Quarter or the LAST PLAY, but it's the Last Game of the Season, there are different MEASURES as per to what is an END. If one plays 162 baseball games and they are playing game 162 with a bad record that is the END GAME of their Season, but it's not the LAST INNING until they get to the 9th Inning, unless they go extra innings of course. And then there is a LAST OUT and a LAST STRIKE, so the LAST ANYTHING has different connotations in every situation. The 7th Trump is the LAST JUDGMENT Trump, the 7th Via is the Last Vial of the 3rd Woe. It's all relative. If you had read what I wrote you would have seen I don't think the 7th Trump n the 7th Vial are parallel, nor can they be, one is the WHOLE 3RD WOE and the other is just the 7th Vial.
Chapters 12, 13 17, and 18 all start via the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact/DOTL which starts at the 1260. How much intelligence does it take to understand the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike starts the 1260 day, DOTL God's Wrath? Go look at how long the Dragon chases the Woman in REv. 12, it is 1260 days !! So, the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike starts the 1260 days of God's Wrath, at which time Micheal STAND UP and kicks Satan out of Heaven. How much common sense does it take to realize the Anti-Christ Beast rules 42 Months? So, Rev. 12 and 13 both mention a time period that lasts 1260 days, and YOU DON'T GET that they both start on the DOTL God's Wrath via the Asteroid Strike in Rev. 8? Well, that's on you, my brother. Rev. 17 is the Anti-Christ BEAST & his 10 kings (European Union) killing off the Harlot Religions, well he and they can't do that until they STRIKE or go forth Conquering, and when do they do that brother? At the 1260 because the Beast can ONLY RULE as the Veast for 1260 days, so when can the Beast AND his 10 Kings kill off the Harlot Religions? ONLY after the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike on the 1260. Thus Rev. 17 starts on that day also, as soon as he becomes THE BEAST he looks to mandate Beast Worship, thus Rev. 17 starts on the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike also. Rev. 18 is Babylon (Whole World) being Judged by God via God's 42 Month Wrath on the DOTL, wh9ch starts with the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike. Your problem is you do not quite grasp that the Judgment chapters are Rev. 8, Rev. 9, and Rev. 16 with Rev. 15 happening in Heaven parallel with Rev. 16. You try t fit all of the other chapters in the Judgment chapters when they are all parallel to the Judgment chapters.
We get THE JUDGMENT CHAPTERS, with OTHER ACTIONS interspersed in between them.
Revelation 8, 9, and 16 are the Judgment Chapters. Rev. 10 is a flash-forward to the very end and the 7 Thunders of God. Rev. 11 is the Two-witnesses ministry of 42 months which starts 75 days before the Beasts office begins and ends at the 2nd Woe. Rev. 12, 13, 17 and 18 all being ith the Beats REIGN, why would you not understand that NONE of these chapters can begin until the beast comes to power at the 1260 Event? Rev. 12, the Dragon chases the woman for 1260 DAYS !! The Beast ARISES and thus rules for 1260 DAYS !! In Rev. 17 how can the Kings that rule ONE HOUR (42 months) with THE BEAST and thus kills off the Harlot not start at the 1260 DOTL Event also? Thus the Kings who kill off the Harlot are in power for 1260 DAYS !! (Is it sinking in yet brother? Because the truth will always prevail) In Rev. 18 we see Babylon being Judged AND WE GET A HUGE CLUE............Do you miss it? It's two TIMING TELLS. Well, less make it FOUR TIMING TELLS.
Rev. 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, (1)and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev. 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, (2)Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev. 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in (3)one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
Rev. 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in (4)one hour is thy judgment come.
1.) Satan is KICKED OUT of Heaven when Micheal STANDS UP at the 1260, thud we see Babylon (THIS WORLD) has become a Habitation for Devils, thus this is speaking about the 1260 Event also.
2.) God calls for Israel to FLEE Judea at the 1260, come out of HER (Babylon/THIS Evil World) lest you partake in HER sins and in HER Plagues, and we know what those Plagues are, don't we? The 7 Trumps which brings the DOTL which last 1260 DAYS !!
3.) Her (Babylon or THIS WORLDS Plagues) come in ONE DAY, the Day of the Lord comes and lasts 42 months !!
4.) Her (Babylons Plagues) come in ONE HOUR which Rev. 17:12 shows us is 42 months via the Kings reign with THE BEAST !! See below to see how long the kings rule with THE BEAST last, I think it says ONE HOUR which in code of course means 42 months !!
Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
So, all four chapters I cited are PROVEN to start at the 1260 DOTL Event, you just don't grasp these facts it seems brother.
Chapters 12, 13 17, and 18 all start via the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact/DOTL which starts at the 1260. How much intelligence does it take to understand the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike starts the 1260 day, DOTL God's Wrath? Go look at how long the Dragon chases the Woman in REv. 12, it is 1260 days !! So, the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike starts the 1260 days of God's Wrath, at which time Micheal STAND UP and kicks Satan out of Heaven. How much common sense does it take to realize the Anti-Christ Beast rules 42 Months? So, Rev. 12 and 13 both mention a time period that lasts 1260 days, and YOU DON'T GET that they both start on the DOTL God's Wrath via the Asteroid Strike in Rev. 8? Well, that's on you, my brother. Rev. 17 is the Anti-Christ BEAST & his 10 kings (European Union) killing off the Harlot Religions, well he and they can't do that until they STRIKE or go forth Conquering, and when do they do that brother? At the 1260 because the Beast can ONLY RULE as the Veast for 1260 days, so when can the Beast AND his 10 Kings kill off the Harlot Religions? ONLY after the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike on the 1260. Thus Rev. 17 starts on that day also, as soon as he becomes THE BEAST he looks to mandate Beast Worship, thus Rev. 17 starts on the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike also. Rev. 18 is Babylon (Whole World) being Judged by God via God's 42 Month Wrath on the DOTL, wh9ch starts with the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike. Your problem is you do not quite grasp that the Judgment chapters are Rev. 8, Rev. 9, and Rev. 16 with Rev. 15 happening in Heaven parallel with Rev. 16. You try t fit all of the other chapters in the Judgment chapters when they are all parallel to the Judgment chapters.
We get THE JUDGMENT CHAPTERS, with OTHER ACTIONS interspersed in between them.
Revelation 8, 9, and 16 are the Judgment Chapters. Rev. 10 is a flash-forward to the very end and the 7 Thunders of God. Rev. 11 is the Two-witnesses ministry of 42 months which starts 75 days before the Beasts office begins and ends at the 2nd Woe. Rev. 12, 13, 17 and 18 all being ith the Beats REIGN, why would you not understand that NONE of these chapters can begin until the beast comes to power at the 1260 Event? Rev. 12, the Dragon chases the woman for 1260 DAYS !! The Beast ARISES and thus rules for 1260 DAYS !! In Rev. 17 how can the Kings that rule ONE HOUR (42 months) with THE BEAST and thus kills off the Harlot not start at the 1260 DOTL Event also? Thus the Kings who kill off the Harlot are in power for 1260 DAYS !! (Is it sinking in yet brother? Because the truth will always prevail) In Rev. 18 we see Babylon being Judged AND WE GET A HUGE CLUE............Do you miss it? It's two TIMING TELLS. Well, less make it FOUR TIMING TELLS.
Rev. 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, (1)and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
Rev. 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, (2)Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Rev. 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in (3)one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
Rev. 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in (4)one hour is thy judgment come.
1.) Satan is KICKED OUT of Heaven when Micheal STANDS UP at the 1260, thud we see Babylon (THIS WORLD) has become a Habitation for Devils, thus this is speaking about the 1260 Event also.
2.) God calls for Israel to FLEE Judea at the 1260, come out of HER (Babylon/THIS Evil World) lest you partake in HER sins and in HER Plagues, and we know what those Plagues are, don't we? The 7 Trumps which brings the DOTL which last 1260 DAYS !!
3.) Her (Babylon or THIS WORLDS Plagues) come in ONE DAY, the Day of the Lord comes and lasts 42 months !!
4.) Her (Babylons Plagues) come in ONE HOUR which Rev. 17:12 shows us is 42 months via the Kings reign with THE BEAST !! See below to see how long the kings rule with THE BEAST last, I think it says ONE HOUR which in code of course means 42 months !!
Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
So, all four chapters I cited are PROVEN to start at the 1260 DOTL Event, you just don't grasp these facts it seems brother.
Because the evil spiritual power of the false prophet works through one man at a time.
Hence "man.
Same as how God referred to prophet as singular although there were many prophets of God. But typically a prophet of God worked alone, hence one man at a time.
Deuteronomy 18:18 — The New International Version (NIV)
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.
We know God raised up for the Israelites (and for us) more than one prophet. Are we to be so literal as to say God only raised up one prophet after Moses??
He will tell them everything I command.
This He is NOT one man (but is most often one man at a time).
And what we do is focus on the spiritual power behind the man more than focus on the man.
Hence "man.
Same as how God referred to prophet as singular although there were many prophets of God. But typically a prophet of God worked alone, hence one man at a time.
Deuteronomy 18:18 — The New International Version (NIV)
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.
We know God raised up for the Israelites (and for us) more than one prophet. Are we to be so literal as to say God only raised up one prophet after Moses??
He will tell them everything I command.
This He is NOT one man (but is most often one man at a time).
And what we do is focus on the spiritual power behind the man more than focus on the man.
It is THE END but it's not when Jesus Returns. The END of what? I cannot be dogmatic because it is not written, but I am convinced it is the end of Adam's 6000 year lease. And because the lease ends, Satan's reign as the spiritual leader of the planet will end with it. So it is the end of man's reign. Have you never read after ancient Jewish sages?
Here are some quotes:
“It was declared in the academy or rahter Elijah’s house, that the world is to subsist six thousand years, and then for one thousand it is to remain waste…”
"God created in 6 days and rested on the 7th: “The meaning of this, that in six thousand years the Lord Go0d will bring all things to an end. And what is that he saith “and he rested the seventh day?” He meaneth this: that when his Son shall come, and abolish the season of the wicked one, and judge the ungodly, and shall change the sun and the moon and the stars, then He shall gloriously rest in that seventh day.”
"From the talmud: “R. Katina said, “Six thousand years the world will exist and one [thousand, the seventh], it shall be desolate (haruv), as it is written, ‘And the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day’ (Isa. 2:11)... R. Katina also taught, “Just as the seventh year is the Shmita year, so too does the world have one thousand years out of seven that are fallow (mushmat)”
"Zohar VaYera 119a Ramban on Genesis 2:3 maintain that the 7 days of creation correspond to the seven millennia of the existence of natural creation. The tradition teaches thath the seventh day of the week, Shabbat or the day of rest, corresponds to the Great Shabbat, the seventh Millennium (years 6000 – 7000)"
Again, not scripture, so no one can be dogmatic - but one might wonder why here at the 7th trumpet does Satan's reign end?
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease...
The Hebrew word for midst means to divide in half. So the week will be divided in half. We know from the first 69 weeks that it is speaking of weeks of years, and we know God used a 360 day year for prophecy. Therefore, Daniel is talking about a 2520 day period of time, and that divided by two would be 1260 days for the half week. Then Daniel shows us this half week as time, times and half of time TWICE, and John shows us this period of time FIVE times. So each of these five times is a HINT that John is at the midpoint of the week in chapters 11, 12, and 13 where these five mentions of the last half of the week are written. (Take note that the 7th trumpet is written in chapter 11, just a few verse AFTER the 42 months of trampling and the 1260 days of testifying is written, PROVING that the 7th trumpet is a midpoint event.
Do we know what event will divide the week? It is not written in so many words, but we have strong hints. Paul tells us the man of sin will enter the most holy place in the new temple and will declare that he is God. We know that anyone other than the High Priest entering the Most Holy place would desecrate the temple and sacrificed would have to stop. (Antiochus made a great example of this, becoming a TYPE of the antichrist beast. What did Jesus say about this?
Matthew 24:
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Take note: when they see they are to flee...
Where do we find this fleeing? It is here:
Rev. 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
So we find yet another proof that this verse and the 7th trumpet is a midpoint event. Here is another starting point for a counddown to the end: this verse is 1260 days BEFORE the 7th vial that will end the week.
This verse is also only seconds after the abomination event Jesus spoke of. If we back up verse by verse trying to find the abomination, we won't find it: God did not show it to John. But if we look for a marker, we find the 7th trumpet as the marker for the exact midpoint.
The 7th Trump is the Last Judgment Tump, so is that not THE END? No, of course not! It is the end of the trumpet judgments, but there are 7 vial or bowl judgments to come, in the second half of the week. We have just seen proof after proof that chapters 11 to 13 are midpoint chapters. So if you demand an "end" then yes, the 7th trumpet is the end of the first 1260 days of the week. Feel better now?
It's all relative. If one uses their imagination rather than the written word of God, perhaps.
I don't think you understand the 3rd woe.
Chapters 12, 13 17, and 18 all start via the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact/DOTL which starts at the 1260. There is little here I can agree with. The first 1260 days starts with the 7th seal that allows the BOOK (remember the book with seven seals?) to be opened, which book then reveals the trumpet judgments. Why not call it the first trumpet rather than an asteroid?
1st Trumpet: The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
Perhaps this is the first nuclear explosion of the 70th week? I guess one could say the first day of the first 1260 days of the 70th week starts here. I would not argue against it. But leave out chapters 12, 13, 17, and 18. Do you not pay any attention to Johns timing? How can it be the first day of the first half of the week, and also be at the end of the week at the same time? IMPOSSIBLE.
I would not argue of someone says the first trumpet is the Start of the Day of the Lord. It is also where I put it. What is written at the 6th seal perhaps is just that the DAY is imminent.
Go look at how long the Dragon chases the Woman in REv. 12, it is 1260 days !! Now you have jumped to the LAST HALF of the week, pretending it is still at the first trumpet! Why not rather PAY ATTENTION to John's chronology? This is not rocket science: a 5th grader can divide 2520 by 2 and come up with 1260. So there are 1260 days in the FIRST HALF and 1260 days in the LAST HALF. Every mention of this period of time in the bible is for the LAST HALF. In Matthew 24 Jesus jumped from the church age to the abomination at the midpoint of the week, jumping over the entire first half of the week. It takes serious study or Revelation or a word from the Lord to find the first half of the week in Revelation.
One day as I was reading Daniel 9: 27, when my eyes and my mind got to the word “midst,” suddenly God spoke to me in what seemed like an audible voice:
“You could find that exact midpoint ‘clearly marked’ in the book of Revelation.”
I was suddenly “in the Spirit,” and could not speak, but my spirit man immediately spoke and ask “How would I find that?”
He answered,
Then, almost as an afterthought, he concluded: “In fact, you could find the entire 70th-week ‘clearly marked.’ ”
When He said this, He also revealed to me without words the reason I could find the entire 70th-week would be that God would use the same marker to mark the beginning of the week, the midpoint of the week, and the end the week. That came as a download of information, not in words.
I have done serious study, but I have also heard from the Author of the book.
So, the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike starts the 1260 days of God's Wrath Again something I can agree with: God's wrath begins with the trumpet judgments.
at which time Micheal STAND UP and kicks Satan out of Heaven WRONG! Stop and think: it will take TIME for the first 6 trumpet judgments! In fact, it takes 1260 days! The war in heaven starts the SECOND 1260 days.
How much common sense does it take to realize the Anti-Christ Beast rules 42 Months? RIGHT but the SECOND 42 months or the LAST half of the week. It seems you have no concept of the passing of time.
So, Rev. 12 and 13 both mention a time period that lasts 1260 days, and YOU DON'T GET that they both start on the DOTL God's Wrath via the Asteroid Strike in Rev. 8? Now you have left scripture entirely and are using human imagination. Of course I don't get error of human imagination. I follow the script CLOSELY! If you are open to learning, I can help.
EVERY MENTION of the 3 1/2 year period of time is for the LAST HALF of the week which half begins at the 7th trumpet that marks the MIDPOINT. Read again the words Jesus spoke to me: "“Every time I mentioned an event that would begin at the midpoint and go to the end of the week, I always included the 3½ year period of time. When you find the mentions of the 3½ years, you will be very close to the exact midpoint.”"
We can prove His words from scripture by Daniel 9:27, the words of Jesus about the abomination and the fleeing, and then when they begin to flee.
What you are missing: from chapter 8 to chapter 16, John takes the reader on a straight walk through the entire 70th week, but with intermissions, some prophecy of future events and parentheses along the way. There is no flash backs. John does not use them. In other words, what one reads in a given chapter will take place AFTER the events of a previous chapter and BEFORE events of a later chapter. Without a doubt, the events in chapter 17 will happen way after the events of chapter 11. The events of chapter 11 come 3 1/2 years after the 6th seal announcement of the start of the Day of the Lord.
Here are some quotes:
“It was declared in the academy or rahter Elijah’s house, that the world is to subsist six thousand years, and then for one thousand it is to remain waste…”
"God created in 6 days and rested on the 7th: “The meaning of this, that in six thousand years the Lord Go0d will bring all things to an end. And what is that he saith “and he rested the seventh day?” He meaneth this: that when his Son shall come, and abolish the season of the wicked one, and judge the ungodly, and shall change the sun and the moon and the stars, then He shall gloriously rest in that seventh day.”
"From the talmud: “R. Katina said, “Six thousand years the world will exist and one [thousand, the seventh], it shall be desolate (haruv), as it is written, ‘And the Lord alone shall be exalted in that day’ (Isa. 2:11)... R. Katina also taught, “Just as the seventh year is the Shmita year, so too does the world have one thousand years out of seven that are fallow (mushmat)”
"Zohar VaYera 119a Ramban on Genesis 2:3 maintain that the 7 days of creation correspond to the seven millennia of the existence of natural creation. The tradition teaches thath the seventh day of the week, Shabbat or the day of rest, corresponds to the Great Shabbat, the seventh Millennium (years 6000 – 7000)"
Again, not scripture, so no one can be dogmatic - but one might wonder why here at the 7th trumpet does Satan's reign end?
Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease...
The Hebrew word for midst means to divide in half. So the week will be divided in half. We know from the first 69 weeks that it is speaking of weeks of years, and we know God used a 360 day year for prophecy. Therefore, Daniel is talking about a 2520 day period of time, and that divided by two would be 1260 days for the half week. Then Daniel shows us this half week as time, times and half of time TWICE, and John shows us this period of time FIVE times. So each of these five times is a HINT that John is at the midpoint of the week in chapters 11, 12, and 13 where these five mentions of the last half of the week are written. (Take note that the 7th trumpet is written in chapter 11, just a few verse AFTER the 42 months of trampling and the 1260 days of testifying is written, PROVING that the 7th trumpet is a midpoint event.
Do we know what event will divide the week? It is not written in so many words, but we have strong hints. Paul tells us the man of sin will enter the most holy place in the new temple and will declare that he is God. We know that anyone other than the High Priest entering the Most Holy place would desecrate the temple and sacrificed would have to stop. (Antiochus made a great example of this, becoming a TYPE of the antichrist beast. What did Jesus say about this?
Matthew 24:
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Take note: when they see they are to flee...
Where do we find this fleeing? It is here:
Rev. 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
So we find yet another proof that this verse and the 7th trumpet is a midpoint event. Here is another starting point for a counddown to the end: this verse is 1260 days BEFORE the 7th vial that will end the week.
This verse is also only seconds after the abomination event Jesus spoke of. If we back up verse by verse trying to find the abomination, we won't find it: God did not show it to John. But if we look for a marker, we find the 7th trumpet as the marker for the exact midpoint.
The 7th Trump is the Last Judgment Tump, so is that not THE END? No, of course not! It is the end of the trumpet judgments, but there are 7 vial or bowl judgments to come, in the second half of the week. We have just seen proof after proof that chapters 11 to 13 are midpoint chapters. So if you demand an "end" then yes, the 7th trumpet is the end of the first 1260 days of the week. Feel better now?
It's all relative. If one uses their imagination rather than the written word of God, perhaps.
I don't think you understand the 3rd woe.
Chapters 12, 13 17, and 18 all start via the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact/DOTL which starts at the 1260. There is little here I can agree with. The first 1260 days starts with the 7th seal that allows the BOOK (remember the book with seven seals?) to be opened, which book then reveals the trumpet judgments. Why not call it the first trumpet rather than an asteroid?
1st Trumpet: The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
Perhaps this is the first nuclear explosion of the 70th week? I guess one could say the first day of the first 1260 days of the 70th week starts here. I would not argue against it. But leave out chapters 12, 13, 17, and 18. Do you not pay any attention to Johns timing? How can it be the first day of the first half of the week, and also be at the end of the week at the same time? IMPOSSIBLE.
I would not argue of someone says the first trumpet is the Start of the Day of the Lord. It is also where I put it. What is written at the 6th seal perhaps is just that the DAY is imminent.
Go look at how long the Dragon chases the Woman in REv. 12, it is 1260 days !! Now you have jumped to the LAST HALF of the week, pretending it is still at the first trumpet! Why not rather PAY ATTENTION to John's chronology? This is not rocket science: a 5th grader can divide 2520 by 2 and come up with 1260. So there are 1260 days in the FIRST HALF and 1260 days in the LAST HALF. Every mention of this period of time in the bible is for the LAST HALF. In Matthew 24 Jesus jumped from the church age to the abomination at the midpoint of the week, jumping over the entire first half of the week. It takes serious study or Revelation or a word from the Lord to find the first half of the week in Revelation.
One day as I was reading Daniel 9: 27, when my eyes and my mind got to the word “midst,” suddenly God spoke to me in what seemed like an audible voice:
“You could find that exact midpoint ‘clearly marked’ in the book of Revelation.”
I was suddenly “in the Spirit,” and could not speak, but my spirit man immediately spoke and ask “How would I find that?”
He answered,
Then, almost as an afterthought, he concluded: “In fact, you could find the entire 70th-week ‘clearly marked.’ ”
When He said this, He also revealed to me without words the reason I could find the entire 70th-week would be that God would use the same marker to mark the beginning of the week, the midpoint of the week, and the end the week. That came as a download of information, not in words.
I have done serious study, but I have also heard from the Author of the book.
So, the Rev. 8 Asteroid strike starts the 1260 days of God's Wrath Again something I can agree with: God's wrath begins with the trumpet judgments.
at which time Micheal STAND UP and kicks Satan out of Heaven WRONG! Stop and think: it will take TIME for the first 6 trumpet judgments! In fact, it takes 1260 days! The war in heaven starts the SECOND 1260 days.
How much common sense does it take to realize the Anti-Christ Beast rules 42 Months? RIGHT but the SECOND 42 months or the LAST half of the week. It seems you have no concept of the passing of time.
So, Rev. 12 and 13 both mention a time period that lasts 1260 days, and YOU DON'T GET that they both start on the DOTL God's Wrath via the Asteroid Strike in Rev. 8? Now you have left scripture entirely and are using human imagination. Of course I don't get error of human imagination. I follow the script CLOSELY! If you are open to learning, I can help.
EVERY MENTION of the 3 1/2 year period of time is for the LAST HALF of the week which half begins at the 7th trumpet that marks the MIDPOINT. Read again the words Jesus spoke to me: "“Every time I mentioned an event that would begin at the midpoint and go to the end of the week, I always included the 3½ year period of time. When you find the mentions of the 3½ years, you will be very close to the exact midpoint.”"
We can prove His words from scripture by Daniel 9:27, the words of Jesus about the abomination and the fleeing, and then when they begin to flee.
What you are missing: from chapter 8 to chapter 16, John takes the reader on a straight walk through the entire 70th week, but with intermissions, some prophecy of future events and parentheses along the way. There is no flash backs. John does not use them. In other words, what one reads in a given chapter will take place AFTER the events of a previous chapter and BEFORE events of a later chapter. Without a doubt, the events in chapter 17 will happen way after the events of chapter 11. The events of chapter 11 come 3 1/2 years after the 6th seal announcement of the start of the Day of the Lord.
Rev. 17 is the Anti-Christ BEAST & his 10 kings (European Union) killing off the Harlot Religions
John sets the theme of chapter 17:
Rev. 17: "I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters. With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
This is a "done deal." it is after the fact. By this time all the world (except those written in the book of life) will have taken the mark. In other words, all false religions will have morphed into this one great false religion. Chapters 17 and 18 are after the end of the week. Notice their position after the 7th vial has been poured out. Chapter 17 is a description of the Beast's kingdom, and chapter 18 is the destruction of Mystery Babylon" or the city of Jerusalem. By this time in John's narrative the trumpets are history - sounded over 3 1/2 years before and the week is over.
Since you don't follow much of anything but imagination, I won't go any farther.
John sets the theme of chapter 17:
Rev. 17: "I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters. With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
This is a "done deal." it is after the fact. By this time all the world (except those written in the book of life) will have taken the mark. In other words, all false religions will have morphed into this one great false religion. Chapters 17 and 18 are after the end of the week. Notice their position after the 7th vial has been poured out. Chapter 17 is a description of the Beast's kingdom, and chapter 18 is the destruction of Mystery Babylon" or the city of Jerusalem. By this time in John's narrative the trumpets are history - sounded over 3 1/2 years before and the week is over.
Since you don't follow much of anything but imagination, I won't go any farther.