Who or what is the Holy Spirit?

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Mem

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Any passages or evidence? - still doesn’t explain the HS already being here and HS came to Jesus during baptism & stayed throughout - Matthew 4:1 the Holy Spirit led Jesus to the desert to be tempted
I was speaking toward the scripture was offered you and I assumed your question was in reference to that. Did you forget it already?
 

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Any passages or evidence? - still doesn’t explain the HS already being here and HS came to Jesus during baptism & stayed throughout - Matthew 4:1 the Holy Spirit led Jesus to the desert to be tempted
John 2:21 But Jesus was speaking about the temple of His body.
The sacred blood that cleanses our temple flowed alive in Jesus' body so, naturally, the Holy Spirit came to and stayed with Him.
 

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I presume you take 'Advocate' as being the HS - please assist - why would Jesus have to go away for the HS, when it has been here since the beginning and during Jesus time?
Any passages or evidence? - still doesn’t explain the HS already being here and HS came to Jesus during baptism & stayed throughout - Matthew 4:1 the Holy Spirit led Jesus to the desert to be tempted
Jesus promised His church, "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." (John 14:16-17).
Jesus was the original 'Comforter' that walked with His church; His Spirit, the Holy Spirit is the "another Comforter" that came (on the day of Pentecost) to dwell in the church as the Administrator of Truth. Hence, "he dwelleth with you" (in the Person of Jesus), and "shall be in you" (post Pentecost).

Jesus had to go away (where He now sits on the Father's right hand) so His Spirit could return to teach and guide the church "into all truth" (John 16:13).
 

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Jesus promised His church, "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." (John 14:16-17).
Jesus was the original 'Comforter' that walked with His church; His Spirit, the Holy Spirit is the "another Comforter" that came (on the day of Pentecost) to dwell in the church as the Administrator of Truth. Hence, "he dwelleth with you" (in the Person of Jesus), and "shall be in you" (post Pentecost).

Jesus had to go away (where He now sits on the Father's right hand) so His Spirit could return to teach and guide the church "into all truth" (John 16:13).
Thanks - but not sure that helps - just adds to John 5:17 'Advocate' - send 'another comforter' / 'spirit of truth' - HS was already here from the beginning Gen 1:2, never went away
 

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This is a short blog that I did on God, The Holy Spirit...

Also, a bit of a blog on The Trinity can be found Here and Here

I also find it quite sad that a Christian of some years being saved (CorrectiveLens), uses "what" of God, The Holy Spirit!
 

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Thanks - but not sure that helps - just adds to John 5:17 'Advocate' - send 'another comforter' / 'spirit of truth' - HS was already here from the beginning Gen 1:2, never went away
But a different OFFICE.
 
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What's it all about?
Matt 11: 27 All things are delivered unto me by my Father, and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, except the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him.
God the Father has god-like qualities such as being everywhere at once, knows what everyone is thinking and feeling, can do anything, knows everything including past, present, and future, has always existed, and can create realities in His mind. That is how He has all those qualities. Our reality is in the mind of the Father.
The beginning of our reality started when the Father placed a living being in it, with his own mind, heart, and soul, and through which he would be able to interact. The vehicle for this interaction is His Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a portal through which the Father can interact with the reality He has created. The Father fills this living being with His Holy Spirit so that this living being is filled with His presence and together they create our reality. Our reality was created by the Father through this being. That is what is meant by the expression "sitting on the right hand of the Father". This being was the first and only being formed from the Father and he is the temple of the Father in our reality. That is why this being is the offspring of the Father and is referred to as the only begotten Son of God, and the image of the invisible God, because the Father's presence (His Holy Spirit) resides in His Son. The Father loves His Son and the Son loves the Father and obeys Him. The Son's will might differ from the Father, but the Son subjugates His will to the Father's. The Father created all things in our reality through His Son and for His Son. All things created are placed by the Father under the Son's feet. I believe that makes the Son Lord of all creation as well as the God of all creation, but the Father is the one God of all, including His Son.
Col 1: 15-16 Who is the image of the invisible God, the first born of all creation; For by him were all things created, that are in heaven , and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers--all things were created by him and for him; and he is before all things, and by him all things consist. Our reality is in the mind of the Father. That is why He knows all things, is everywhere, is all powerful, and can do all things. The Father interacts with our reality through Christ, who is a Spirit with His own mind but is also filled with the Spirit of the Father who formed Him. Just like Christ is the temple of the invisible Father, we are the temple of both the Father and the Son because they both reside in us who are saved.
 
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Heb 1: 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as He hath by inheritance obtained a more excellant name than they. In Hebrew history, the first born son was the one who inherited the Father's blessings and goods. The reason he was made so much better than the angels is because Christ is the first and only being actually formed by the Father. All other beings are formed by the Father, but through Christ because Christ is the temple of the Father and Christ obeys the Father. Christ is not forced to obey the will of the Father. He has a perfect heart and willingly obeys out of Love. He has a different will than the Father, but he subjugates his will to that of the Father. Because of this, he holds a special place in the heart of the Father.
Heb 1 :5-7 For unto which of the angels said He at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again , I will be to him a Father, and He shall be to Me a Son? And again, when He bringeth in the first-begotteen into the world, He saith, " And let all the angels of God worship Him. And of the angels He saith , Who maketh His angels spirits, and His ministers a flame of fire.
Christ's existence emanated from the Father's (mind) from which all things exist. Christ is the first and only living spiritual being that came from the Father. That is why He is the Father's Son. Just like the Father, Christ has His own mind, heart, and soul. Because the Father's essence (Holy Spirit) completely fills Christ's being, Christ, with His free will, chooses to love and obey Him. That is why He sits at the Father's right hand (to do the Father's will). The Father communicates His will to the Son through His essence (Holy Spirit). The Son is One with the Father because the Father communicates and empowers through His Holy Spirit. The Son's will might differ from the Father, but the Son gladly acquiesces to the will of the Father. When Christ became a man, the essence of God the Father, through which Mary's seed was fertilized, again resulted in Christ being born but this time as a human. The Father and Son relationship occurs a second time.
 
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Isaiah 43: 10 ... before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
This verse clearly states that the speaker is the only God formed. This verse is spoken by Christ because the Father has no beginning but apparently, the God (Christ) in Isaiah 43: 10 had a time that existed before Him which means that He didn't always exist in the past. Actually, the beginning started when Christ was formed out of the Father's essence. Alpha and Omega means the first and the last.
John 6 : 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will but the will of Him that sent me.
Jesus' will is distinct from the Father's, yet, because He is one with the Father and sits on His right hand because He performs the Father's will. He came down from Heaven to do the Father's will. Christ was sent and He obeyed the Father's will before He became human. Even before He became human the Son was subservient to the Father.
Isaiah 63: 9-10 In all their affliction He was afflicted, and the angel of His presence saved them; and in His pity He redeemed them; and He bore them, and carried them all the days of old. But they rebelled, and vexed His Holy Spirit; therefore, He was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
In this scripture Isaiah is stating that the Holy Spirit is the angel of God's (the Father's) presence. Where His Holy Spirit is, the Father is.
1Cor 3: 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Where the Holy Spirit is, the Father is.
Eph 2: 18 For through Him (Christ) we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
In the Old Testament it was the high priest who was the only person allowed in the Holy of Holies where the high priest communicated with God and afterwards relayed God's message to His people. After Christ's death, the veil (which was at the entrance of the Holy of Holies) was rent (torn) meaning that Christ is our new High Priest and through His Holy Spirit, we have direct communication to God.



 

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the Holy Spirit is the ONLY REVEALING source that proves or reveals that God, Jesus & the H.S. are true & God's word is true. no human past, present or future can prove God's existence. why should an imperfect human prove a perfect person is true? verses such as John 3:33,36, 14:16,17, 16:13, 1st John 3:20-22, 24, Romans 8:16, Psalm 19:7, 119:18 & Hebrews 8:10 teach us God has put His laws into our minds & wrote them on our hearts & that we have constant access with the H.S. & God's Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are the children of God.
 
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John 17: 20-24 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also who shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one, as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory (Holy Spirit) which thou gavest me I have given them, that they may be one, even as we are one; I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am, that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me; for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
The Son is the temple of the Father, and because we are part of the spiritual body of Christ, we are also the temple of both the Father and the Son. The Father glorified Jesus when He ascended into heaven by giving Him a spiritual body composed of souls who have received the Father's Holy Spirit through belief in His Son. It is the Father that gives us to Christ and we become one with the Father and Son because it is through their Spirit that our lives are directed and swayed by them. That is how man is made in the image of God (through their Holy Spirit).
Gen 1: 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness;
The Father and Son can see the future in the time-line of humanity and what they saw was that all humanity was headed towards their own distruction because they followed their own will and not the will of the Father and Son. The Father and Son are able to not only see the past, present, and future, but also to interact in our timeline to change our present to fit our future as directed by them. The scripture above was not only for the time of creation, but also throughout the timeline of humanity. Man is made in the image of the Father and Son when they receive their Holy Spirit. Those that receive the Holy Spirit of the Father and Son have their whole being changed so that their motivation for living is Love for God first, and love for everyone else as they love themselves. These are the people who are baptized in the name of the Father and repent of their sins. They are then baptized in the name of the Son when they trust in the Father's plan for the forgiveness of sins through Jesus' death. It is the Son who baptizes the person, Not with water, but with the Holy Spirit of the Father and Son (who perfects him and includes him in the family of the Father through Jesus Christ).
 
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John 14: 2 In my Father's house (mind) there are many mansions (realities); if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Eph 4: 4-6 There is one body (the body of Christ which is His Church), and one Spirit (the Spirit of the Father), even (that is) as ye are called in one hope of your calling (receiving the Holy Spirit of the Father); One Lord (Christ), one faith (salvation through Jesus Christ), one baptism (baptism in the name of the Father, who grants repentance and chooses who to give to His Son to fill His spiritual body), One God and Father of all (including Jesus), who is above all, and through all, and in you all. The Father of all is the one God of all because our reality is in His mind and that is why He controls our reality, is above all, and through all, and is present in us through His Holy Spirit which was given to Christ when He got glorified to distribute to those chosen by the Father in order to fill Christ's body (the Church).
Eph 3: 14-19 For this cause (the glory of the saints) I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, That He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory (Holy Spirit), to be strengthened with might by His Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend, with all saints, what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height, and to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fullness of God.
Paul bows his knees unto the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. The whole family in heaven and earth are they that have been baptized in the Father's name and have received His Holy Spirit.
Heb 1: 8 But unto the Son He saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
The Father gives Christ a kingdom to rule forever, made up of righteous beings who worship Him as a God. Notice that the Father refers to His Son as " O God ". That is because the Father has put all things under Christ's feet except Himself.
John 14 : 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father; for my Father is greater than I.
The Father is greater than Jesus. That does not in any way lessen who Christ is. He is our Lord, our God, our Savior, and the love of God the Father.
Matt 28 : 18 And Jesus came and spoke unto them, saying , All authority is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Jesus' authority in heaven and on earth is given to Him by the Father.
 
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Gal 4 : 14 And my trial , which was in my flesh, ye despised not, nor rejected, but received me as an angel of God, even (that is) as Christ Jesus.
In this verse Paul describes Jesus as an angel of God because it was through Jesus that His message and will was accomplished.
Matt 24 : 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

There are things that only the Father knows.

1Cor 12: 3 Wherefore, I give you to understand that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed; and that no man can say that Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.
Matt 16: 15-17 He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona; for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father, who is in heaven.
The Father communicates His will and empowers through His Holy Spirit. The Father is in heaven and yet communicates and reveals on earth through His Holy Spirit. Where the Holy Spirit is, the Father is.
Eph 1: 13 In whom ye also trusted, after ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also after ye believed, ye were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
The order is hearing the word of truth (the gospel of your salvation), believing and trusting, and getting sealed with the Holy Spirit. Receiving the Holy Spirit takes place when Christ baptizes you with the Spirit of the Father as well as His own. Receiving the Holy Spirit of God means that God is present in you and you are sealed as part of the body of Christ and in the Family of the Father. Notice that water baptism is not even mentioned.
Eph 1: 17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him.
It is the Father who is the God of our Lord Jesus Christ and who is the Father of Glory (His Holy Spirit) because it is through His Holy Spirit that the Father communicates and empowers.
Romans 8: 1, 4 There is, therefore, now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk, not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Because Adam and Eve ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (our conscience), we are all born with this knowledge which is a law to do good and avoid evil. The defect of all humans from birth is their motivation for living which is love of "self". The Letter of the Law includes the original ten commandments given to Moses as well as the hundreds of others that were later added on. Too many for us to follow which results in failure of the Jews as well as all to keep the Letter of the Law. Christ made it easy for us by filling our hearts with divine love from His and the Father's Holy Spirit. When Christ baptizes us with the Holy Spirit, our motivation changes from love of "self" to love for God first, and everyone else as we love ourselves. This is what happens when we are born again. There is no condemnation when the motivation for every thought and action is love for God first and everyone else second. That is how we obey the Spirit of the Law and are perfected in righteousness when presented to the Father.

 
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Ezekiel 36: 26-27 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep mine ordinances, and do them.
2 Cor 3: 18 But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even (that is) as by the Spirit of the Lord.
When we receive the Holy Spirit of the Father, we also receive the Spirit of the Son ( the Lord) which changes us to His image as part of His body. Christ is the image of the Father and we are the image of the Son when our motivation for every thought and action is first, love for God and second, everyone else as we love ourselves.
John 3: 5-8 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it willeth, and thou hearest the sound of it, but canst not tell from where it cometh, and where it goeth; so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
What John is saying is that in order to enter into the kingdom of God, you have to be born twice. Once of water (the amniotic fluid which consists of water and the baby's urine) and the second time born of the Holy Spirit.
Gal 3: 14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith (belief in His Son).
Acts 1: 2, 5, 8 Until the day in which He was taken up, after He, through the Holy Spirit, had given commandments unto the apostles whom He had chosen; For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now. But ye shall receive power, after the Holy Spirit is come upon you; and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
John baptized with water, but Christ will baptize with the Holy Spirit. The disciples of Christ were all Jews who followed the Jewish tradition of spiritual cleansing with water and celebrated events in their history. We get cleansed through the blood of Jesus and not with water.
Exodus 6: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Christ appeared to them in the name of the Father but His name is Jehovah. It was the Father that appeared in Spirit because Christ is filled with the Father's Spirit and and the Father, through His Spirit, talks through Christ ( JEHOVAH) (who is a spirit being). Jehovah is the God of the Old Testament because He was the image of the one true God and sits on His right hand which means that the Father's will is accomplished through Christ.
Christ is our Lord, our Savior, and the God of all creation, but the Father is the God of all, including Christ. The Father and Son are two different intelligence and therefore two different entities. The Holy Spirit of the Father is the means through which He interacts with our reality. The Father is the Father of Glory because He gave this glory (means of interaction) to Jesus when He ascended to heaven to get glorified. Now Jesus is also able to interact with those who receive the Father's Holy Spirit and together they abide in the heart of the believer in order to perfect the believer by filling him with the divine love necessary so that the motivation for all thoughts and actions is love for God first, and everyone else as he loves himself. It's pretty clear from the Bible that the Son is subservient to the Father and they are two different beings.
 
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Exodus 6: 7-8 And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the Lord your God, who bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. And I will bring you in unto the land, concerning which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob; and I will give it you for an heritage: I am the Lord.
The Lord is Christ who speaks the Father's words to Moses. In Isaiah 40: 10-11, Christ is the Father's right hand and is given a kingdom to rule as a reward for accomplishing the Father's will. The subjects of His kingdom will be all who have received the Father's Spirit and believe and trust in the Father's plan for salvation through Christ.

Matt 4:1 Then was Jesus led up by the Spirit (of the Father) into the wilderness to be tested by the devil.
Eph 4: 30-32 And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, by whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamor, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice; And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God, for Christ's sake, hath forgiven you.
You grieve not the Holy Spirit when your motivation for all your thoughts and actions is love of God first, and love for everyone else as we love ourselves.
 
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2 Cor 13: 5,14 Examine yourselves, whether you are in the faith; prove yourselves. Know ye not yourselves how Jesus Christ is in you, unless you are discredited? The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
John 15: 1-2 I AM the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away; and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Galatians 5: 22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, self-control; against such there is no law. Romans 4: 15 Because the law worketh wrath; for where no law is, there is no transgression. That is why obeying the Spirit of the Law over-rides the Letter of the Law even though they are both based on Love. It is through the Holy Spirit of the Father and Son that we aquire that Love to the degree necessary.
John 15: 3-8 1. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 2.Abide in me, and I in you. 3. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine, no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 4. I am the vine, ye are the branches. 5. He that abideth in me, and I in Him, the same bringeth forth much fruit; 6.for without me ye can do nothing. 7. If a man abideth not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. 8. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. 9. In this is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
1. You get baptized to get spiritually clean through preaching. The Jewish tradition of water baptism to get spiritually clean was the reason Jews from all around the Jordan came to John's baptism. In this ritual they declared their sins, repented, and then got washed. This was an embedded tradition because they all wanted to get spiritually clean in the eyes of God. That is why so many came. Also, the first Christians were Jews who still held on to this tradition. John said that he baptized with water, but someone else greater than him (Christ) was going to baptize with the Holy Spirit. Not us, He (Christ). When we preach the Gospel, people will listen and be baptized by the Father (who grants repentance so that the person turns to Him for forgiveness of sins committed), by the Son who erases his sins when he believes in Christ, and by the Holy Spirit when Christ baptizes him with it. The Holy Spirit of the Father through the Spirit of the Son perfects us by filling us with divine love for God first and everyone else as we love ourselves so that we can obey the Spirit of the Law upon which the Letter of the Law is based on.
2.You abide in Christ when you become part of His spiritual body. He abides in us when we receive His and the Father's Holy Spirit.
3. The only way that you can be perfected with this divine love is through Christ whose Spirit resides in you.
4. We are members of His body.
5. Those that are in His body and those that have His Spirit in them will be exhibiting much love.
6. Christ is the only way. We can't do it on our own.
7. Those that are not part of Christ's body by receiving His Holy Spirit will be discarded.
8. When you receive the Holy Spirit, anything that you ask for will not be worldly but spiritual out of love and always if it be God's will.
9. The Father is glorified when His glory (Holy Spirit) is spread throughout the human timeline.
Phil 1:19-21 For I know that this ( rejoicing that Christ is preached) shall turn to my salvation through your prayers, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life or by death. For to me to live is Christ, and to die (subjugate our will totally) is gain.
The Spirit of the Father and Son dwells in our bodies to direct and sway our thoughts and actions to their will. To succumb to Christ is to succumb to the Father. The more we subjugate our will to theirs, the more is gained.
 

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In the story of Ananias and his wife Sapphira, found in the 5th chapter of the Book of Acts, Peter makes 2 distinctions concerning the Holy Spirit.

In verse 4, Peter tells Ananias "Thou hast not lied to men, but to God."
In verse 9, Peter asks Sapphira "Why is it that you have agreed together (Ananias and Sapphira) to tempt the Spirit of the Lord?"

According to Peter, the Holy Spirit is both God and the Spirit of the Lord.
Must be why Jesus, a physical in person to person Comforter, said another Comforter is coming.
 

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The Holy Spirit is called the Paraclete in the original Greek (paraklétos, Strongs 3875),
which literally means “one called alongside to help.” The above bolded text is a link.


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The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity, along with God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son. The Holy Spirit is often referred to as the Comforter, Counselor, and Advocate, and is described as the power of God at work in the world and in the lives of believers

. The Holy Spirit is also credited with inspiring and guiding the authors of the Bible, making it the word of God

The Greek word for Holy Spirit is "pneuma" and the Hebrew word is "ruach"

. Scripture references about the Holy Spirit include:

John 14:16-17: Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit to be with his disciples forever.

Acts 2:1-4: The Holy Spirit came upon the disciples at Pentecost, and they began to speak in other tongues.

Romans 8:26: The Spirit helps us in our weakness and intercedes for us in prayer.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20: Our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, whom we have from God.

Galatians 5:22-23: The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.

Ephesians 4:30: We should not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom we were sealed for the day of redemption.

The Holy Spirit has many roles in the lives of believers, including:
Empowerer: The Holy Spirit empowers believers for Christian living, equipping them with spiritual gifts for service and enabling them to live holy lives

Helper: The Holy Spirit is a helper who teaches, reminds, and guides believers into all truth

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Revealer of truth: The Holy Spirit reveals God's truth to believers and enables them to understand and interpret the Bible

Gift-giver: The Holy Spirit gives spiritual gifts to believers so that they may function as the body of Christ on earth

Fruit-producer: The Holy Spirit produces the fruit of the Spirit in the lives of believers, including love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control

Overall, the Holy Spirit is an essential part of the Christian faith and plays a vital role in the lives of believers.
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