Who was Job? Was he prophet?

[Bow11]

It means the Book of Job is a part of Genesis?

No. Job lived at a time in history where men's lifespan seemed to reach its limit in the 300 year range. This would mean that he was probably a contemporary with Abraham yet was born well before Abraham.

 

[Bow11]

Is this book is a part of Genesis as scholars it is a pre-flood story ?

Huckleberry, the story of Job was found in cuniform. It is one of the oldest biblical stories in the history of man. There are some biblical scholars who think that Job might actually be a pre-flood story that Noah taught. Throughout History man has reused names as an honorific or simply because they thought it was a nice name. Job was as far back as we can find in the written record of man, one of the first stories put into the written record, other than the great flood. It is for this reason, that Job was by far one of the most difficult books in the Bible when the Old Testament canon came together. Throughout the History of Judaism, there have been many who have disregarded the book, because it is not a Jewish story, while others have held it must be kept, because it shows the loving, eternal, and unchanging God that we all know.

When Christians came to the book of Job, the same debate raged and in some denominations still rages. However, whether it be a pre-flood legend that has come down to us from antiquity, or if it be a Sumerian legend, it stands as one of the first stories of our God and of our enemy, and it intrinsically teaches us the truth of our Father in Heaven. Just because it predates Abraham, it is still a story about a righteous man and the God who loved him.

 

[4enlightment]

Job 1:8Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

Luke 22:31“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat.

Luke 8:13Those on the rocky ground are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away.

Acts 13:36“Now when David had served God’s purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his ancestors and his body decayed.

 

[Sanashankar]

Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:
2 “Who is this that obscures my plans
with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.

21 Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
(Job 38:1-4 and 21)

Note: Read Job 38 carefully and try to find who was that man Job? Was he born before laid the earth's foundation, as God Himself said in verse 38:21

What i have learned is Job is someone who lived long back, even before abraham and noah. He was alive in those times when people used to live for more that 500 years. so the verse "You have lived so many years!" cannot mean he was born before the world was created, but during those days when people used to live for more years

 

[reject-tech]

Every person will be Job before it's over with.
The book of Job, for those who bother past chapter 3, is a detail of the lake of fire baptism experience.

 

[4enlightment]

What i have learned is Job is someone who lived long back, even before abraham and noah. He was alive in those times when people used to live for more that 500 years. so the verse "You have lived so many years!" cannot mean he was born before the world was created, but during those days when people used to live for more years

The laws didn't came into effect until Moses, and so Job had made an sin offering for his children sins.

 

[reject-tech]

There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

There was a man in the land of contemplation, whose name was afflicted; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

 

[Cobus]

Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:
2 “Who is this that obscures my plans
with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

4 “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.

21 Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
(Job 38:1-4 and 21)

Note: Read Job 38 carefully and try to find who was that man Job? Was he born before laid the earth's foundation, as God Himself said in verse 38:21

Job was a very silly man that thought HE KNEW ALL ABOUT GOD.... Everything Job did know about God he heard from other people, that also knew NOTHING about God.... And if you doubt me, let me use Jobs OWN words when he WITHDREW, ABHORE ALL he said....

The whole book of Job was said by Job in his "not understanding" state,... Look what Job says in Job 42....
therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
Please note Job says.... he have said things he understood NOT! ... things too wonderful for him to know...

And then Job says this is the reason he uttered this nonsence of his.... I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
Please not Job HEARD nonsence about GOD.... BUT... now that God revealed to Job.... Job had to REPENT (and he thought he was perfect) and ABHORE... withdraw ALL HE SAID ABOUT GOD AND HIMSELF....


So there is something to chew on...

 

[reject-tech]

So there is something to chew on...

Excellent points there.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Job was a very silly man that thought HE KNEW ALL ABOUT GOD.... Everything Job did know about God he heard from other people, that also knew NOTHING about God.... And if you doubt me, let me use Jobs OWN words when he WITHDREW, ABHORE ALL he said....

The whole book of Job was said by Job in his "not understanding" state,... Look what Job says in Job 42....
therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
Please note Job says.... he have said things he understood NOT! ... things too wonderful for him to know...

And then Job says this is the reason he uttered this nonsence of his.... I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
Please not Job HEARD nonsence about GOD.... BUT... now that God revealed to Job.... Job had to REPENT (and he thought he was perfect) and ABHORE... withdraw ALL HE SAID ABOUT GOD AND HIMSELF....


So there is something to chew on...

Actually GOD commended Job for speaking rightly of him:

And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. Job 42:7​

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

What i have learned is Job is someone who lived long back, even before abraham and noah. He was alive in those times when people used to live for more that 500 years. so the verse "You have lived so many years!" cannot mean he was born before the world was created, but during those days when people used to live for more years

Job was a contemporary of Elihu, who appears to have been at least a great, great grandson of Judah, who was a great grandson of Abraham. He was probably alive while the children of Israel were in Egypt.

 

[Brother_Don]

i'm not sure who Job was, but the Bible says what Job was. Job 1:1, There was a man in the land of Uz, who's name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil. Job was a servant of God. Job 1:8, And the Lord said unto satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and upright man, one that feareth God, and eschewed evil. Job instructed many, Job 4:3 Behold, thou hast instructed many, and thou hast strengthened the weak hands. Thy words have upholden him that was falling, and thou hast strengthened the feeble knees. Here is a couple verses of what Job was.

 

[Sanashankar]

The laws didn't came into effect until Moses, and so Job had made an sin offering for his children sins.

Yeah im wrong by telling Job was before Abraham and noah. Job was the son of Issachar.

Gn 46:13 And the sons of Issachar; Tola, and Phuvah, and Job, and Shimron.
1Ch 7:1 . Now the sons of Issachar [were], Tola, and Puah, Jashub, and Shimron, four

One of Job's three friends was Eliphaz the Temanite (Job 2:11) who was the son of Esau

Gn 36:10 These [are] the names of Esau's sons; Eliphaz the son of Adah the wife of Esau, Reuel the son of Bashemath the wife of Esau.
Gn 36:11 And the sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, and Gatam, and Kenaz..



That makes Job the nephew of Joseph who came to Egypt.But i see that the law was not given then too.. I dont think law was necessary for people to give burnt offerings for their sins. We do see a lot of people including Abel making burnt offering..

 

[Sanashankar]

Job was a contemporary of Elihu, who appears to have been at least a great, great grandson of Judah, who was a great grandson of Abraham. He was probably alive while the children of Israel were in Egypt.

Yeah im wrong by telling Job was before Abraham and noah. Job was the son of Issachar, if i am not wrong

Gn 46:13 And the sons of Issachar; Tola, and Phuvah, and Job, and Shimron.
1Ch 7:1 . Now the sons of Issachar [were], Tola, and Puah, Jashub, and Shimron, four

One of Job's three friends was Eliphaz the Temanite (Job 2:11) who was the son of Esau

Gn 36:10 These [are] the names of Esau's sons; Eliphaz the son of Adah the wife of Esau, Reuel the son of Bashemath the wife of Esau.
Gn 36:11 And the sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar, Zepho, and Gatam, and Kenaz..

 

[Cobus]

Actually GOD commended Job for speaking rightly of him:

And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. Job 42:7​

There is more to Job than what most people think... First, was this what God wants to hear from a perfect person? God why was I born? Would I rather been born dead! And how about when God commended Job for what he said, and then Job still say things like,,,, I have spoken what I understand NOT... things too wonderful for me.... Looks like Job and God just cannot get to the same convictions.

And then when Jesus (MY JOB) came even God HIMSELF said.... This is my Son in whom I am well pleased... And I searched and searched the Bible, there is not ONE PLACE where Jesus and God have two opinions about ANYTHING. They are PERFECTLY ONE! Not like Job and God.

Job was not a peron that speaks AGAINST God, but rather against himself... Yet Job did not understand GOD. Job only knew about God what OTHERS told, him, but when God SHOWED him, Job said.... NOW THAT I HAVE SEEN THEE,,,, it means Job now understand the things he previously did NOT understand...

Only NOW will Job KNOW GOD... He did not speak against God back then, but he also did not KNOW God as he did in Job42. So God can commend Job for NOT going against God as his friends did, but God could not commend Job for knowing God, untill God SHOWED Job. And that only happened in Job42...

Here is the thing, A persn may live a life without sin, but that is not the gaurentee that such a person KNOWS GOD.... Only people that KNOWS God will have eternal life. Life eternal is: TO KNOW GOD AND THE ONE HE SENT.... Job did NOT know this before Job 42.... So no matter what Job said, it was only after Job 42 that HE KNEW!

 

[limbo]

In the book of Job, Job is a picture of Christ. I find it interesting about his three friends who seem to quote some accurate statements yet God was not happy with them in the lest. I would not be surprised if they were actually figuratively representing the 12 tribes before bondage, the Jewish Nation and the Churches in our generation today. Notice in the end how all that job lost was returned to him double.

 

[homwardbound]

Every person will be Job before it's over with.
The book of Job, for those who bother past chapter 3, is a detail of the lake of fire baptism experience.

interesting, and what will we hold to the flesh self or the Spirit of God for life everlasting. Deliver that man to Satan to have the flesh destroyed so that he might be saved as yet to go through the fire and his own soul to be saved, Interesting.

 

[homwardbound]

Job was a very silly man that thought HE KNEW ALL ABOUT GOD.... Everything Job did know about God he heard from other people, that also knew NOTHING about God.... And if you doubt me, let me use Jobs OWN words when he WITHDREW, ABHORE ALL he said....

The whole book of Job was said by Job in his "not understanding" state,... Look what Job says in Job 42....
therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.
Please note Job says.... he have said things he understood NOT! ... things too wonderful for him to know...

And then Job says this is the reason he uttered this nonsence of his.... I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.
Please not Job HEARD nonsence about GOD.... BUT... now that God revealed to Job.... Job had to REPENT (and he thought he was perfect) and ABHORE... withdraw ALL HE SAID ABOUT GOD AND HIMSELF....


So there is something to chew on...

Absolutely, and then he knew this and said this:
Job 19:25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

Was he talking about Christ, that Christ is the redeemer or not?

 

[Shalomian_Monk]

Job 22:15 - 16

"Will you keep to the ancient path that wicked men walked, men who were snatched away before their time, whose foundations were poured out like a river."

This passage seems to be referring to Noah's flood.

As Job was alive after this, and Enoch before, this does not seem to be the case.

As I read it, I notice that this is a poem that seems to be aligned with stage directions and poetry. It makes me think, in a way, of ancient plays.

I don't think this is about a legitimate individual. Yes, other books refer to the character of Job, but the book of Jude quotes from the book of Enoch, and that is not considered to be canon nor to be taken literally.

Job is in the books of Poetry for a reason.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I don't think this is about a legitimate individual.

While you have revived an ancient thread, you have also injected the fancies of Higher Critics into your post. The Bible is crystal clear that Job was indeed a historical person and a righteous man.