Who will populate the earth in the 1000 year Reign
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Its populating now in these last days . When he comes on in Spirit on the last day (a unknown) Populating will cease . In our new bodies we will like the angels in heaven . . no male or female, Jew nor gentile. No populating. No need. . books are close. and sealed . No commandment be fruitful and multiply .
Question is why would it populate ? And with what.? . The same corrupted flesh and blood which we do not wrestles against to begin with?
Question is why would it populate ? And with what.? . The same corrupted flesh and blood which we do not wrestles against to begin with?
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The church as the spiritual house of God made up of many lively stones never left . Its kingdom is not of this world. If it is then we do wrestle against flesh and blood and we have the wrong focus and need to make it more like that of Cain. Out of sight out of mind plow them under.. . . religion of paganism . Same one Saul as a law of the fathers (traditions of men) hunting , killing and punishing the things seen men and woman and children alike.
I dont know why you see an issue with it. God is in complete control and allows satan to be set free at the end of the millennium, what is the problem there? Of course the actual kingdom is eternal, the millennium is a sabbath so to speak for the earth. the devil is released to show that even under those circumstances, people are easily led astray just like Eve and Adam were.
The new heaven and new earth abide forever.
The new heaven and new earth abide forever.
You arent really discussing anything. You are just repeating your own teaching without even trying to understand the other side and to make it worse you arent even defending your own side of the argument.
You just assert it and we are supposed to swallow it. Revelation 20 says satan will no longer deceive the nations when he is bound, I see nations deceived, that means it hasnt happened. I can read history it has never occured.
Im not gonna go back and forth with you unless we get some fruit out of it.
You just assert it and we are supposed to swallow it. Revelation 20 says satan will no longer deceive the nations when he is bound, I see nations deceived, that means it hasnt happened. I can read history it has never occured.
Im not gonna go back and forth with you unless we get some fruit out of it.
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Amen . . .no condemnation, no retrial. Christ cannot deny Himself if he began the good work in us with us he will finish it till the last day the day of the Lord. .
But the letter of the law "Death" not one jot or title will be removed until that last day. Then the letter of the law that causes the suffering of hell in these bodies of death will have served its purpose. .
Death will be cast in the judgment of the fiery wrath of God. It will never rise and corrupt to death an entire creation. The smoke of its remembrance (the law that kills) in the new heavens and earth will not be remembered or ever to come mind forever more.
But the letter of the law "Death" not one jot or title will be removed until that last day. Then the letter of the law that causes the suffering of hell in these bodies of death will have served its purpose. .
Death will be cast in the judgment of the fiery wrath of God. It will never rise and corrupt to death an entire creation. The smoke of its remembrance (the law that kills) in the new heavens and earth will not be remembered or ever to come mind forever more.
In the 2nd coming, The Lord will be established as King of His Kingdom.
The 12 apostles will judge the 12 tribes as Jesus told them Matthew 19:28
Zechariah 14:9 New King James Version (NKJV)
9 And the Lord shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be—
“The Lord is one,”
And His name one.
people will be come from all over the earth to come and worship the King Zechariah 14:16
Isaiah 2 King James Version (KJV)
1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Jeremiah 3:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.
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The 12 apostles will judge the 12 tribes as Jesus told them Matthew 19:28
Zechariah 14:9 New King James Version (NKJV)
9 And the Lord shall be King over all the earth.
In that day it shall be—
“The Lord is one,”
And His name one.
people will be come from all over the earth to come and worship the King Zechariah 14:16
Isaiah 2 King James Version (KJV)
1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
Jeremiah 3:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.
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As the fathers of lies or spirit of error . What is it he is bound from doing? What is the chain that binds the spirit of error and the key that secures the pit? If it is not the gospel than what? Will he send a famine for hearing the word and kill His two prophets for a time as the two witnesses of God, the law (Moses) and the prophets (Elias) and then revive them and cause a explosion like at Pentecost. Or when he comes on the last day will he find his faith working even working. . . its the end of the world we live in.
Please look up the word Hades and sheol before making the assumption that hell is referring to the grave, because it is not.
qeber (hebrew) and mnemeion (Greek) are the two words interpreted tomb, grave and sepulcher. Sheol/Hades are defined as the place of departed spirits, the underworld:
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Strong's Concordance
hadés: Hades, the abode of departed spirits
Original Word: ᾍδης, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: hadés
Phonetic Spelling: (hah'-dace)
Definition: Hades, the abode of departed spirits
Usage: Hades, the unseen world.
HELPS Word-studies
86 hádēs (from 1 /A "not" and idein/eidō, "see") – properly, the "unseen place," referring to the (invisible) realm in which all the dead reside, i.e. the present dwelling place of all the departed (deceased); Hades.
Sheol/Hades should never be translated as the grave, because this is the place where the spirits of the unrighteous go at the time of death.
Furthermore, Hades which will be thrown into the lake of fire, is personified, i.e. an actual entity representing the same place.
And while you are correct that Sheol/Hades will not exist anymore, the lake of fire will last forever and so will those who are thrown into it.
qeber (hebrew) and mnemeion (Greek) are the two words interpreted tomb, grave and sepulcher. Sheol/Hades are defined as the place of departed spirits, the underworld:
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Strong's Concordance
hadés: Hades, the abode of departed spirits
Original Word: ᾍδης, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: hadés
Phonetic Spelling: (hah'-dace)
Definition: Hades, the abode of departed spirits
Usage: Hades, the unseen world.
HELPS Word-studies
86 hádēs (from 1 /A "not" and idein/eidō, "see") – properly, the "unseen place," referring to the (invisible) realm in which all the dead reside, i.e. the present dwelling place of all the departed (deceased); Hades.
Sheol/Hades should never be translated as the grave, because this is the place where the spirits of the unrighteous go at the time of death.
Furthermore, Hades which will be thrown into the lake of fire, is personified, i.e. an actual entity representing the same place.
And while you are correct that Sheol/Hades will not exist anymore, the lake of fire will last forever and so will those who are thrown into it.
His kingdom is not of this world never was never will be.
12 remnant of the all the apostles were set aside to represent all of those who have ben born again believers on this side of the 1st century reformation .This is shown in Revelation 21 .the city of Christ called "Christian", prepared named after her husband as His bride.
We are not to add new meaning to the word apostle it can change the intent of the author.
Literal tribes will not judge other literal tribes. To begin with there is no record of official geanalolgy that could lead back to the tribes that were named after certain works God preformed in giving birth to sons . The tribe of Judah is lost that way as well as others
There use as shadows is long gone and so is the need. It was fulfilled at the birth of Jesus. End of descent.
Tribes like apostles both a metaphors used in parables represent the city of Christ prepared as his bride.
That day, the last day is the day of the new heavens and earth. Not reckoned after the corrupted but rather the eternal not seen. Never after the corrupted temporal.
Same thing not in respect to the corrupted as what the eyes see, the place where the kingdoms of this corrupted creation will rise up to Zion the heavenly city prepared as His bride the church . As the spiritual house of God. . She is made up of many lively stones as a living house or temple. In that way we are the temporal temple as tents of God in the wilderness Who does works in us to both will and do his good pleasure.
Same thing not in respect to the corrupted as what the eyes see according to the imagination of ones own uncovered heart (after the imagination of their evil heart.)
12 remnant of the all the apostles were set aside to represent all of those who have ben born again believers on this side of the 1st century reformation .This is shown in Revelation 21 .the city of Christ called "Christian", prepared named after her husband as His bride.
We are not to add new meaning to the word apostle it can change the intent of the author.
Literal tribes will not judge other literal tribes. To begin with there is no record of official geanalolgy that could lead back to the tribes that were named after certain works God preformed in giving birth to sons . The tribe of Judah is lost that way as well as others
There use as shadows is long gone and so is the need. It was fulfilled at the birth of Jesus. End of descent.
Tribes like apostles both a metaphors used in parables represent the city of Christ prepared as his bride.
That day, the last day is the day of the new heavens and earth. Not reckoned after the corrupted but rather the eternal not seen. Never after the corrupted temporal.
Same thing not in respect to the corrupted as what the eyes see, the place where the kingdoms of this corrupted creation will rise up to Zion the heavenly city prepared as His bride the church . As the spiritual house of God. . She is made up of many lively stones as a living house or temple. In that way we are the temporal temple as tents of God in the wilderness Who does works in us to both will and do his good pleasure.
Same thing not in respect to the corrupted as what the eyes see according to the imagination of ones own uncovered heart (after the imagination of their evil heart.)
I asked you one question at the top/intro of my post.
You've not answered that one question, which was:
"TheDivineWatermark said:
Do you believe that Rev19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 took place "at Christ's first advent" ? [plz see those verses; and note that v.21 says "the remnant WERE SLAIN" (that is, they DIE / are KILLED)]"
Rev19:19/21/*16:14-16/20:5... did this take place at/in His first advent, yes or no?
Pretty easy to answer "yes" or "no". Has it already happened? [note: *"Armageddon"]
Try not to avoid the question.
You've not answered that one question, which was:
"TheDivineWatermark said:
Do you believe that Rev19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 took place "at Christ's first advent" ? [plz see those verses; and note that v.21 says "the remnant WERE SLAIN" (that is, they DIE / are KILLED)]"
Rev19:19/21/*16:14-16/20:5... did this take place at/in His first advent, yes or no?
Pretty easy to answer "yes" or "no". Has it already happened? [note: *"Armageddon"]
Try not to avoid the question.
Scripture doesn't say that. The words used to describe the punishment for the wicked, is for ever and ever, everlasting eternal.
"And they (the wicked) will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
In the scripture above the word "aionios" translated as "eternal" must retain the same meaning for both the wicked and the righteous. Therefore, whatever meaning you assign to one, must mean the same for the other. To be clear, if you interpret aionios/eternal to mean a temporary amount of time for punishment of the wicked, then eternal life for the righteous must also be temporary. You can't have the word "aionios" mean two different things.
However, since we know that eternal (aionios) means never-ending life for the righteous, then it also has to mean never-ending punishment in everlasting fire for the wicked.
The descriptive words used, eternal, everlasting, for ever and ever, mean exactly what they say, never-ending.
"And they (the wicked) will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
In the scripture above the word "aionios" translated as "eternal" must retain the same meaning for both the wicked and the righteous. Therefore, whatever meaning you assign to one, must mean the same for the other. To be clear, if you interpret aionios/eternal to mean a temporary amount of time for punishment of the wicked, then eternal life for the righteous must also be temporary. You can't have the word "aionios" mean two different things.
However, since we know that eternal (aionios) means never-ending life for the righteous, then it also has to mean never-ending punishment in everlasting fire for the wicked.
The descriptive words used, eternal, everlasting, for ever and ever, mean exactly what they say, never-ending.