Who will populate the earth in the 1000 year Reign

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Please consider the spiritual nature of the Kingdom:

“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2) (KJV 1900)

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” (Matthew 11:12) (KJV 1900)

“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28) (KJV 1900)

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.” (1 Corinthians 15:50)

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) (KJV 1900)

“Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” (John 3:5)

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36) (KJV 1900)

“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:” (Luke 17:20) (KJV 1900)

“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21) (KJV 1900)

“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has already overtaken you.” (Luke 11:20)

“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.” Luke 16:16 (KJV 1900)

“because we are not looking at what can be seen but at what cannot be seen. For what can be seen is temporary, but what cannot be seen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:18)

“Now when the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus performed, they began to say to one another, “This is certainly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” Then Jesus, because he knew they were going to come and seize him by force to make him king, withdrew again up the mountainside alone.” (John 6:14–15)

“He delivered us from the power of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of the Son he loves,” (Colossians 1:13)

“When Jesus saw that he answered intelligently, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And no one dared to question Him any longer.” (Mark 12:34) (HCSB)

“for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.” (Romans 14:17) (HCSB)

“I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 1:9 (NASB95)

“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.” Acts 8:12 (KJV 1900)

“That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.” 1 Thessalonians 2:12 (KJV 1900)

“And he went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.” Acts 19:8 (KJV 1900)

“And when thy days [David] be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.” 2 Samuel 7:12–13 (KJV 1900)
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Of all the verses you have shown...there is nothing that said it is a spiritual kingdom.
1. Kingdom of heaven is at hand-it is like Jesus coming is at hand...
2.some shall not taste death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom - same as 1. Kingdom when Jesus comes and reign.
3.flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom - like 1 and 2, kingdom when we inherit the new body at his coming.
4.born again - only born again will see the Kingdom of God (new heaven, new earth, when He return all power and dominion to God, however there are those who survive the war will be in Christ kingdom again at his coming.
5. Born of water and spirit - baptism at our conversation, new body (quockening spirit) at our translation, again when he comes.
6. Kingdom of God is preached - telling them the coming kingdom...
Mat 26:29 KJV But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom...they cannot drink unless they have the new body...again at his coming.
7. We are looking that are not seen.
Heb 11:16 KJV But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
Like Jesus is preparing mansion in the father house...
Jesus at his coming and the city in the new heaven...when Jerusalem comes down from heaven..

I hope you got it already...
 
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watcher2013 said:
Of all the verses you have shown...there is nothing that said it is a spiritual kingdom.
1. Kingdom of heaven is at hand-it is like Jesus coming is at hand...
2.some shall not taste death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom - same as 1. Kingdom when Jesus comes and reign.
3.flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom - like 1 and 2, kingdom when we inherit the new body at his coming.
4.born again - only born again will see the Kingdom of God (new heaven, new earth, when He return all power and dominion to God, however there are those who survive the war will be in Christ kingdom again at his coming.
5. Born of water and spirit - baptism at our conversation, new body (quockening spirit) at our translation, again when he comes.
6. Kingdom of God is preached - telling them the coming kingdom...
Mat 26:29 KJV But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom...they cannot drink unless they have the new body...again at his coming.
7. We are looking that are not seen.
Heb 11:16 KJV But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
Like Jesus is preparing mansion in the father house...
Jesus at his coming and the city in the new heaven...when Jerusalem comes down from heaven..

I hope you got it already...
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Where in the NT does it say the kingdom is physical?
 
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Dave-L said:
Where in the NT does it say the kingdom is physical?
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Rev 11:15 KJV And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 5:10 KJV And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
 
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“IF THEN you have been raised with Christ [to a new life, thus sharing His resurrection from the dead], aim at and seek the [rich, eternal treasures] that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.” Colossians 3:1 (AMP)

We presently rule with Christ. If the 1000 years are the Kingdom, how does Satan attack it when it ends?
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Satan attacks it once he is released from where he is bound. The book of Revelation is clear on the 1000 years reign of Jesus Christ. Those who are raised at the first resurrection will do so at the last trump. It states that the dead in Christ rise first to meet Jesus in the air before He returns and then the born again believers who are still alive will then rise. At that point the second coming of Jesus starts to unfold. You don't actually believe that this has already happen do you? In Zechariah14:4 it states that once Jesus comes back in the second coming that the Mount of Olives splits in two from the east to the west. In your estimation has this happened also? We are most definitely not ruling with Christ at this moment in time. The verse you supplied does not support your claim in the least that we presently rule with Christ.
 
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God will kill every one that opposes Him at the end of the trib...he has to reform the planet for it will be split open...at the beginning of the 1000 years all will be his but the elect that is alive will have offspring during the 1000 years...all that are His will be there to rule and reign with him from Adam to the church at the rapture and elect that get killed during the trib....the CHURCH CAN NOT GO THRU THE TRIB IS CLEAR...at the end of the 1000 years many will have been born and lived....but all who oppose Christ will be destroyed at the end of the 1000 years....it is clear that no one wicked will go into the 1000 year period...Christ destroys them
 
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There is no millennium. If there were, only glorified saints would populate it since flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom. This leaves only glorified saints for Satan to rally in war against the other glorified saints when loosed.
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The Bible says that there are people left from the nations when Jesus Christ returns. Mr. Adstar posted the verses in post number 2! They will populate it and they will rebel when satan is loosed. satan is not bound now the millennium has not started yet. Its already been 2000 years, not 1000.
 
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At the rapture people are changed and get there resurrected bodies it says...they are changed in th twinkling of an eye....it takes reading all 66 books in context over and over for a long period long hours a day...day after day and preaching it
 
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Kolistus said:
The Bible says that there are people left from the nations when Jesus Christ returns. Mr. Adstar posted the verses in post number 2! They will populate it and they will rebel when satan is loosed. satan is not bound now the millennium has not started yet. Its already been 2000 years, not 1000.
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Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. And only the born again can see it.
 
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Satan attacks it once he is released from where he is bound. The book of Revelation is clear on the 1000 years reign of Jesus Christ. Those who are raised at the first resurrection will do so at the last trump. It states that the dead in Christ rise first to meet Jesus in the air before He returns and then the born again believers who are still alive will then rise. At that point the second coming of Jesus starts to unfold. You don't actually believe that this has already happen do you? In Zechariah14:4 it states that once Jesus comes back in the second coming that the Mount of Olives splits in two from the east to the west. In your estimation has this happened also? We are most definitely not ruling with Christ at this moment in time. The verse you supplied does not support your claim in the least that we presently rule with Christ.
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Satan was bound and is now loosed. You missed the whole thing.
 
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Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom. And only the born again can see it.
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Yes you said it, yes the Bible teaches that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. It also teaches what I and Adstar said in Zechariah 14:16.

You are hung up on few pet verses and are using them to sweep under the rug the whole chapter 20 of Revelation and many other passages from the tanakh and the NT.

To arrive to proper understanding I believe all verses need to be looked at. The way discussions work is that now you can either explain to us why the verses we posted are wrongly interpreted or tell us how satan is bound now for 2000 years, instead of the biblical 1000 years?
 
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Kolistus said:
Yes you said it, yes the Bible teaches that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. It also teaches what I and Adstar said in Zechariah 14:16.

You are hung up on few pet verses and are using them to sweep under the rug the whole chapter 20 of Revelation and many other passages from the tanakh and the NT.
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You need to interpret Zecharia according to Jesus, not the Pharisees.
 
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Who will populate the earth. and how will this happen.
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My initial thoughts ( I haven't read the other posts yet).

1. Those known as the Bride, we who were raptured, given glorified bodies and attended the Wedding in Heaven. We shall return to Earth with Jesus at the time of His Second Coming to rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.

2. Those who were left behind, but survived the Tribulation and Armageddon. They will not be glorified and shall make many babies.
 
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Dave-L said:
Where in the NT does it say the kingdom is physical?
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Zechariah 14 King James Version (KJV)
:1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
 
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You need to interpret Zecharia according to Jesus, not the Pharisees.
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Jesus in the Bible did not provide any commentary on Zechariah. What does it mean?

Are you a roman catholic? This sounds exactly like the "millennium" that is taught by Roman Catholicism.
 
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Zechariah 14 King James Version (KJV)
:1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives,

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
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See Jesus' description of the kingdom and then try to interpret Zechariah.
 
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Kolistus said:
Jesus in the Bible did not provide any commentary on Zechariah. What does it mean?

Are you a roman catholic? This sounds exactly like the "millennium" that is taught by Roman Catholicism.
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Study the Kingdom according to Jesus and then try again.
 
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Dave-L said:
Satan was bound and is now loosed. You missed the whole thing.
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Missed being caught up in the clouds with Jesus and also the splitting of the Mount of Olives in two also. You missed it also.
 
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oyster67 said:
My initial thoughts ( I haven't read the other posts yet).

1. Those known as the Bride, we who were raptured, given glorified bodies and attended the Wedding in Heaven. We shall return to Earth with Jesus at the time of His Second Coming to rule and reign with Him for 1000 years.

2. Those who were left behind, but survived the Tribulation and Armageddon. They will not be glorified and shall make many babies.
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Isaiah 2 King James Version (KJV)
1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem.

2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.

3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.

Jeremiah 3:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.
 
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rhern said:
The 2nd Coming, The return of Christ begins a new era.

Who will populate the earth. and how will this happen.
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When Jesus returns in person to this earth, unbelievers will understand how God has always ruled on earth. The mercy he ruled by will end for unbelievers and only the faithful will inhabit the earth.
 
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