Why did God create Humans ?

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Genez

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It's the same God. The same spirit. He changes not.

Jesus came and explained that WE are the temple that God dwells in. It was the same then as it is now-- and His glory can and does depart. He is not kept in a box.... He comes and goes as He will.
The Spirit back then indwelt the Temple.
Not people.

The Spirit could come and go, as with Samson.
But not make Samson his permanent dwelling place.
 

Genez

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That doesn't say what you propose it says. Go ahead and post the verse that says the spirit can never depart.

Do you think that the Acts 2 Christians spoke in tongues with their hair on fire forever?

Easy come, easy go.
I just tried Perplexity A.I. for the first time.
Amazing what it came up with.
It must have access to the Greek tenses found in Scripture.


The Holy Spirit indwells believers by taking up permanent residence in their bodies the moment they trust in Jesus Christ as their Savior. This indwelling is a key aspect of the new spiritual life that believers receive, marking them as God's own and making their bodies temples of the Holy Spirit.
In the Old Testament, the Spirit would come and go, empowering people temporarily, but in the New Testament era, Jesus promised that the Spirit would live permanently within believers (John 14:17). When a person accepts Christ, the Holy Spirit gives them new spiritual life, confirms their belonging to God, and unites them with the universal church through the baptism of the Spirit.
grace and peace!
 
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If the Holy Spirit is poured out onto someone, their desire will be to love the creator for the blessing which was freely given! Anyone who thinks differently is looking for the creature to accomplish that which only the creator is able to do.......
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I just tried Perplexity A.I. for the first time.
Amazing what it came up with.
It must have access to the Greek tenses found in Scripture.


The Holy Spirit indwells believers by taking up permanent residence in their bodies the moment they trust in Jesus Christ as their Savior. This indwelling is a key aspect of the new spiritual life that believers receive, marking them as God's own and making their bodies temples of the Holy Spirit.
In the Old Testament, the Spirit would come and go, empowering people temporarily, but in the New Testament era, Jesus promised that the Spirit would live permanently within believers (John 14:17). When a person accepts Christ, the Holy Spirit gives them new spiritual life, confirms their belonging to God, and unites them with the universal church through the baptism of the Spirit.
grace and peace!
The principle AI operates on is "garbage in, garbage out."
 
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The Spirit back then indwelt the Temple.
Not people.

The Spirit could come and go, as with Samson.
But not make Samson his permanent dwelling place.
There are seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.
 
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It was the same then as it is now-- and His glory can and does depart. He is not kept in a box.... He comes and goes as He will.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
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John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
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"I will never leave you or forsake you." --Yet here we sit, waiting for his return.

You can't take a single verse and use it to somehow override a solid principle. Read on in John 14-- He was talking about the spirit of God that was in him, as it is in us also. He didn't flip a switch at his coming or going and 'change the rules,' the spirit moves.

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
 
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Another question for open discussion

Why did God create Human kind.?

When i first heard of God / Jesus in a Youth Group they taught God created humankind as he wanted fellowship with a species that had free will

I of course read the bible and it soon became apparent that the Angels that God created first already had free will. eg Lucifer chose to disobey.

So why?

I still not sure why , so happy to hear peoples thoughts.
The simplest explanation is most often the correct one. (Occam's Razor)

But folks can't get their heads around it, because their heads are so chock full of other ideas they've allowed to be stuffed in.

God (the Father) allowed His children to be creative. God is spirit. His offspring are spirit.

In the beginning elohim created the heavens and the earth.
 
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The principle AI operates on is "garbage in, garbage out."
I normally don't like A.I. either.

But, that one, cited its sources...

It was not garbage.
It surprised me to see such good answers laid out.
Once I saw the sources, I then knew why.
 
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"I will never leave you or forsake you." --Yet here we sit, waiting for his return.
what are you talking about??? don't you know that Christ is in each and every born again one (Col 1:27) ... born again of incorruptible seed by the Word of God which liveth and abideth forever (1 Peter 1:23)?

If you do not know that Christ is in you, Scripture reveals that you have not passed the test:

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates [Greek adokimos = not standing the test, not approved]?




MrE said:
You can't take a single verse and use it to somehow override a solid principle.
nor can you.




MrE said:
Read on in John 14-- He was talking about the spirit of God that was in him, as it is in us also. He didn't flip a switch at his coming or going and 'change the rules,' the spirit moves.

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

the word "abode" is translated from the Greek monḗ which means to remain, abide; an abiding dwelling-place (i.e. not transitory) - HELPS Word-studies (bold mine)

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Kroogz

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The fallen angels were all male.
Just like Adam was alone, and created male.

The appearance of beautiful human women drove them insane with lust and desire.

Over time, some of the fallen angels, being obsessed with women, began to imitate women.
And, over time, became the first drag queens.
Once the illusion and delusion took hold, these drag queen angels began giving service to
other fallen angels who agonized to have a female.
10 years ago I would have said, " YOU LOONY TOON!"

But it makes more sense than the "theologians" of today.

His word alludes to it, and the world today is proving it.

As the days of Noah....
 

Kroogz

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what are you talking about??? don't you know that Christ is in each and every born again one (Col 1:27) ... born again of incorruptible seed by the Word of God which liveth and abideth forever (1 Peter 1:23)?
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Pretty sure you know this from your excellent posts.....The Trinity indwells us.

The Father.The Son. The Holy Spirit.
 

Webers.Home

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Re: Why did God create Humans?

I'm baffled by the timing. The Bible's God is an eternal being whereas
mankind is a relatively recent addition to the grand scheme of things. Why
now instead of six trillion years ago?

Theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking understood pretty well how the
cosmos works; but could never scientifically explain why it should exist at
all. Well not only is mankind's existence a mystery, but so are the circumstances
of our existence.
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Genez

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10 years ago I would have said, " YOU LOONY TOON!"

But it makes more sense than the "theologians" of today.

His word alludes to it, and the world today is proving it.

As the days of Noah....
They started off heterosexual!
God handed them over to the desires of their hearts.
Which is?
The demonic atmospheric way of thinking that they take perverse pleasure in thinking.
Once handed over to the demons to be as their gods?
They suddenly transform into the nature of those fallen angels = perversity.

Romans 1:21-31



21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
The following sounds a lot like the ones we find who are stars of the fake news media.
28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
And, we're in it!
 

Genez

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Re: Why did God create Humans?

I'm baffled by the timing. The Bible's God is an eternal being whereas
mankind is a relatively recent addition to the grand scheme of things. Why
now instead of six trillion years ago?


Theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking understood pretty well how the
cosmos works; but could never scientifically explain why it should exist at
all. Well not only is mankind's existence a mystery, but so are the circumstances
of our existence.
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Six Trillion years ago, God had already created man in the mind of God.

The problem with creating man is this...

Creating men like he created horses would be easy.
But, creating a creature that becomes an independent life onto its own thinking?
So that God would not be alone?

Now that's a problem for God to solve.
No man can create something like that.
 

Cameron143

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Six Trillion years ago, God had already created man in the mind of God.

The problem with creating man is this...

Creating men like he created horses would be easy.
But, creating a creature that becomes an independent life onto its own thinking?
So that God would not be alone?

Now that's a problem for God to solve.
No man can create something like that.
You earnestly think this was hard for God?