Why Did God Turn His Back? POLL

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Why Did God Turn His Back On Jesus?

  • He couldn't stand seeing Jesus nailed to the cross

  • He didn't see Jesus as his son anymore

  • He couldn't stand to look at the sin of the world upon Jesus

  • He didn't want to hear Jesus in pain

  • Other


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if anyone says to you, 'behold, here is the Christ' . . .
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A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU.. I AM NOT COMING UNTO YOU AS "CHRIST" I AM COMING UNTO YOU AS not only Thy ELECT SISTER, in whom YAHOSHUA, has said to GREET THEE. She is also sent unto you as My BRIDE.. This is why I said NOT TO LISTEN TO MAN, because I WAS SENDING YOU A "WOMAN" who has come unto you to TESTIFY of WHO I AM, unto the CHURCHES, have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ, unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, i AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...Revelation 22:16-17 I YAHOSHUA HAVE SENT MINE “ANGEL", [which means a messenger] TO TESTIFY UNTO YOU THESE THINGS IN THE “CHURCHES”. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT”, [who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA] and the “BRIDE” [who she is, who is speaking to you now] SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. 2 John 1:12-13 Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full. The children of Thy Elect Sister GREET THEE. Amen.

Now, I tell you this truth. I have come unto you to tell you the SECRETS and MYSTERIES that I had promised to bring unto you, have you not READ? And I have also brought unto you, YOUR VISITATION, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord 'thy Father’ will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints. Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. Matthew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the ‘MYSTERY’, which from the ‘BEGINNING’ of the world hath been hid in ‘the Father’, who “CREATED’ all things by Yahoshua Christ.

Luke 19:40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

So not allow YOURSELF TO AWAKEN, in a PLACE YOU HAVE NO IDEA, WHEN, WHERE or HOW YOU GOT THERE, saith YAHOSHUA.. For you truly do not know WHO I AM, by My NAME, and it is ONLY THROUGH MY NAME, can you be SAVED, have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. John 10:1-5 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

For now you have been WARNED, and I have kept My PROMISE to make these things that were kept from you ,made known unto you, saith YAHOSHUA.. Listen to My WORDS, for they are SPIRIT and they are TRUTH. For they have only been making you to THINK that you are saved through ME, until you AWAKEN in a PLACE you have not IDEA, how you GOT THERE, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not read, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Jeremiah 4:20-22 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment. How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet? For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge. Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Shalom
 

posthuman

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Psalms 22: 1 (To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My FATHER, my FATHER, why hast thou forsaken me?
why are you misquoting scripture?

you don't have to change the Word. you just have to understand it.
 
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No reaction no reaction

A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU. For your TOMORROW is literally not promised to you, for evil is about to come unto you and your Country from the evil one.. I have come unto you, to make you make a choice, saith YAHOSHUA, for I RATHER YOU BE HOT or COLD, because if you are luke, warm, My FATHER will spit you out of his MOUTH, for this is YOUR SALVATION, we are SPEAKING ABOUT, saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, that ANCESTORS did not RECEIVE ME, when I CAME unto THEM, I AM, MESSIAH. I told you this would happen, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. Revelation 3:15-16 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

I have come unto only those that will HEAR MY VOICE, those in whom My FATHER had given unto Me, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. John 17:6-9 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. John 17:15-20 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word


Shalom
 
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why are you misquoting scripture?

you don't have to change the Word. You just have to understand it.
A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU... I REBUKE YOU IN YOUR FOOLISHNESS.. For If I AM WRONG, PROVE ME WRONG WITH SCRIPTURES, NOT WITH YOUR WORDS, but with MY WORDS, that are WRITTEN, Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ, unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. 2 Timothy 2:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of the FATHER, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of the FATHER may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Shalom
 

posthuman

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A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU... I REBUKE YOU IN YOUR FOOLISHNESS.. For If I AM WRONG, PROVE ME WRONG WITH SCRIPTURES, NOT WITH YOUR WORDS, but with MY WORDS, that are WRITTEN, Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ, unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. 2 Timothy 2:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of the FATHER, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of the FATHER may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Shalom
a prophet who presumes to speak in My name anything I have not commanded,
or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death
(Deuteronomy 18:20)

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A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU... YOU CAN PUT AS MANY X's as you wish, For I HAVE NOT COME TO PLEASE MAN, but My FATHER.. Now, I tell you this truth this day.. If you FIND YOURSELF in a PLACE YOU HAVE NO IDEA, WHEN, WHERE, or HOW YOU GOT THERE. Than these CONVERSATIONS will come back unto your MEMORY, saith YAHOSHUA, for this have been YOUR VISITATION, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Luke 19: 40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! But now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation. For I have not come to BRING PEACE, but a SEPARATION, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Matthew 10:34-41 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

Shalom
 

Angela53510

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Jesus in pain had the thought that the Father had forsaken Him, but God had not turned His back. At the death of the Son, the earth shook and the sun was darkened. I see that as God having the last word on that event. It was so astounding that some of the centurians came to believe Jesus was who He said He was.
Where does it say in Scripture, that Jesus "thought" the Father had forsaken them. I need verses! What you have posted is hearsay or pure imagination.

Then there is another stretching of the text:

"was so astounding that some of the centurians came to believe Jesus was who He said He was."

Please post the verses that says "Some of the centurions." A centurion is over a "century" or 100 or more men. I am quite certain there were not 100's of Roman soldiers there, watching the crucifixion of three lowly criminals. Nope, the Bible says there was ONE at the cross. One source says this centurion was mostly likely lower rank because he got the crucifixion detail≥

"When the centurion and those who were with him, keeping watch over Jesus, saw the earthquake and what took place, they were filled with awe and said, “Truly this was the Son of God!” Matt 27:54.

One centurion and some ordinary soldiers.

You do this all the time. You have some theory, sometimes right, sometimes wrong, and you throw up a bad paraphrase to prove your point. In the future, I would ask you to look up the verses, and then post them with the book, chapter and verse. And the version, if it is a weird one. Then, I can argue either that you have quoted it wrong, or the translation is off.

Further, my suggestion is that you actually read a modern translation, every day. I doubt you would make all these silly mistakes, if you actually read the Bible, every day, all year long, year after year.
 

Angela53510

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a prophet who presumes to speak in My name anything I have not commanded,
or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death
(Deuteronomy 18:20)

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True that!
 
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A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU. For your TOMORROW is literally not promised to you, for evil is about to come unto you and your Country from the evil one.. I have come unto you, to make you make a choice, saith YAHOSHUA, for I RATHER YOU BE HOT or COLD, because if you are luke, warm, My FATHER will spit you out of his MOUTH, for this is YOUR SALVATION, we are SPEAKING ABOUT, saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, that ANCESTORS did not RECEIVE ME, when I CAME unto THEM, I AM, MESSIAH. I told you this would happen, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. Revelation 3:15-16 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou were cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

I have come unto only those that will HEAR MY VOICE, those in whom My FATHER had given unto Me, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. John 17:6-9 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. John 17:15-20 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word


Shalom
A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU, For you have been TERRIBLY DECEIVED, just as this WORLD have been... It will not be, when you find yourself on My LEFT SIDE with the GOATS, saith YAHOSHUA, for this is your LAST CHANCE TO FIND ME, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Matthew 25:31-33 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

For this is your VISITATION, not MINE, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. Luke 19:40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! But now they are hid from thine eyes.For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

John 10:25-30 YAHOSHUA answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.

Do not allow yourself to AWAKEN in a PLACE YOU HAVE NO IDEA, WHEN, WHERE, OR HOW YOU GOT THERE, saith YAHOSHUA, for you have now been warned. It would have been BETTER for you NOT TO HAVE HEARD THERE TRUTHS, then to have HEARD THEM, then turn from them, as a DOG, RETURNS to their OWN VOMIT AGAIN, have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto YOU, who are of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the ANCESTORS of the JEWS, that did not RECEIVE ME, when I CAME UNTO THEM, I AM, MESSIAH, have you not READ? FULFILLING the FATHER Scriptures. 2 Peter 2:20-22
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior YAHOSHUA Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Shalom
 

Angela53510

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A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU... I REBUKE YOU IN YOUR FOOLISHNESS.. For If I AM WRONG, PROVE ME WRONG WITH SCRIPTURES, NOT WITH YOUR WORDS, but with MY WORDS, that are WRITTEN, Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ, unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. 2 Timothy 2:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of the FATHER, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of the FATHER may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Shalom
You are the one who does not clearly quote the Bible. You string together some verses, often misquoted and then claim your are a prophet. Not! When you stop claiming you are God's own prophet, and actually post something that makes sense, in context, then we can actually look at the Bible, and where you are wrong.
 
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Where does it say in Scripture, that Jesus "thought" the Father had forsaken them. I need verses! What you have posted is hearsay or pure imagination.

Then there is another stretching of the text:

"was so astounding that some of the centurians came to believe Jesus was who He said He was."

Please post the verses that says "Some of the centurions." A centurion is over a "century" or 100 or more men. I am quite certain there were not 100's of Roman soldiers there, watching the crucifixion of three lowly criminals. Nope, the Bible says there was ONE at the cross. One source says this centurion was mostly likely lower rank because he got the crucifixion detail≥

"When the centurion and those who were with him, keeping watch over Jesus, saw the earthquake and what took place, they were filled with awe and said, “Truly this was the Son of God!” Matt 27:54.

One centurion and some ordinary soldiers.

You do this all the time. You have some theory, sometimes right, sometimes wrong, and you throw up a bad paraphrase to prove your point. In the future, I would ask you to look up the verses, and then post them with the book, chapter and verse. And the version, if it is a weird one. Then, I can argue either that you have quoted it wrong, or the translation is off.

Further, my suggestion is that you actually read a modern translation, every day. I doubt you would make all these silly mistakes, if you actually read the Bible, every day, all year long, year after year.

A PROPHETIC ANSWER to your QUESTION... My FATHER NEVER SAID THAT HE TURNED HIS BACK ON HIS FATHER, NEVER DID HE SAY THAT.. YAHOSHUA was QUOTING.. A SONG that DAVID WROTE, which started off with, MY FATHER, MY FATHER, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Psalms 22:1 (To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My FATHER, my FATHER why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?

This is what YAHOSHUA was QUOTING while he was on the TREE/Cross, with his ARMS, STRECHED OUT FOR YOU...

Shalom
 
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You are the one who does not clearly quote the Bible. You string together some verses, often misquoted and then claim your are a prophet. Not! When you stop claiming you are God's own prophet, and actually post something that makes sense, in context, then we can actually look at the Bible, and where you are wrong.

A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU. I REBUKE YOU SATAN, BE SILENT!!! . For you know your TIME IS NEAR... For I DID NOT COME FOR EVERYONE, ONLY THOSE WHO KNOW MY NAME, and who My FATHER had GIVEN UNTO ME, for you KNOW NOT MY VOICE, and you are DENYING MY OWN WORDS, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. John 17:6-9
I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

But I will meet you on My LEFT SIDE, if you do not AWAKEN, saith YAHOSHUA, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. Matthew 25:31-33 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

For you have NO PROTECTION AGAINST WHAT IS ABOUT TO COME UNTO YOU... For My PROTECTION is only GIVEN through My NAME, have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ, unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. John 17:15-20 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;



For it is through My NAME, that i have made a way out, for I will protect you through My NAME, saith YAHOSHUA. These are the SECRETS and MYSTERIES, that I have said that I would bring unto YOU, BUT YET YOU ARE NOT LISTENING, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures..
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord 'thy Father’ will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints. Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. Matthew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the ‘MYSTERY’, which from the ‘BEGINNING’ of the world hath been hid in ‘the Father’, who “CREATED’ all things by Yahoshua Christ.


I will not be HERE with you for long, for I will send My BRIDE to OTHERS, that want to HEAR MY VOICE, saith YAHOSHUA..

Shalom
 

Angela53510

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I'm not making this into a version thread, but when God's word is attacked, I will defend. If I were you, I would ask for my higher learning $$ back. You've been educated right out of any belief in God's pure words.

Over and over, God's "originals" were destroyed and God had to make another copy. Were these copies of the "originals" inspired? Absolutely! Copies can and are inspired by God.

I apologize for interrupting this thread.
If you want to stay in a cult, that is your choice. I said nothing against the KJV. It is a translation many have used, including people in this forum. But, if you want to pretend that a translation from the 16th century is inspired, when it Erasmus used 7 late, corrupt manscripts to translate most of the NT, which the KJV based its NT on, then you are clueless.

So glad I have real Bible training, and I am close to God and I have read many Bible versions and languages, and God through the Holy Spirit and my education has trained me to understand translational and manuscript issues. To say nothing of doctrine!

Why is it that the cults, like the Mormans and others, always use the KJV? Because no one really understands KJV, and no one wants to admit it. Well, except me! I admit the KJV is too archaic and obsolete for me to understand. And if you understand and use it, great for you! But that doesn't make it the only inspired version.

In fact, the Byzantine manuscripts have no history back to the original, inspired manuscripts. They just started being copied in the 4th century, but many copies with lots of errors were in full swing by the 10th century. And each generation of scribe adding to the manuscripts, until there were so many additions, but it took until the 20th century before the science of manuscript reading tracked every mistake, and where and when they started. And oh how those Byzantine scribes like to embellish the text. Which is why you can't trust the Byzantine tradition or the so-called TR.

Sorry to interrupt this thread which is going no place fast, with false prophets, and people who misquote the Bible to prove a wrong doctrine having taken over!
 

Angela53510

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A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU. I REBUKE YOU SATAN, BE SILENT!!! . For you know your TIME IS NEAR... For I DID NOT COME FOR EVERYONE, ONLY THOSE WHO KNOW MY NAME, and who My FATHER had GIVEN UNTO ME, for you KNOW NOT MY VOICE, and you are DENYING MY OWN WORDS, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. John 17:6-9
I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

But I will meet you on My LEFT SIDE, if you do not AWAKEN, saith YAHOSHUA, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. Matthew 25:31-33 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

For you have NO PROTECTION AGAINST WHAT IS ABOUT TO COME UNTO YOU... For My PROTECTION is only GIVEN through My NAME, have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ, unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH, fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. John 17:15-20 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;



For it is through My NAME, that i have made a way out, for I will protect you through My NAME, saith YAHOSHUA. These are the SECRETS and MYSTERIES, that I have said that I would bring unto YOU, BUT YET YOU ARE NOT LISTENING, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures..
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord 'thy Father’ will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Colossians 1:26 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints. Luke 8:17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. Matthew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the ‘MYSTERY’, which from the ‘BEGINNING’ of the world hath been hid in ‘the Father’, who “CREATED’ all things by Yahoshua Christ.


I will not be HERE with you for long, for I will send My BRIDE to OTHERS, that want to HEAR MY VOICE, saith YAHOSHUA..

Shalom

So, Mr. False Prophet, now you are cursing and threatening me with death.?You are not God. You are certainly not a prophet! You have no say in whether I am saved. Only God and I know that!

I will tell you, your madness has been observed and reported.
 
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a prophet who presumes to speak in My name anything I have not commanded,
or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death
(Deuteronomy 18:20)

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A Prophetic word unto YOU... Jeremiah 23:23-27 Am I a FATHER at hand, saith the LORD, and not a FATHER afar off? Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD. have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed. How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal. Jeremiah 4:20-22 Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment. How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the trumpet? For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge. Jude 1:11-13 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Luke 19:40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! But now they are hid from thine eyes.For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.
Revelation 22:16-17 I YAHOSHUA HAVE SENT MINE “ANGEL", [which means a messenger] TO TESTIFY UNTO YOU THESE THINGS IN THE “CHURCHES”. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT”, [who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA] and the “BRIDE” [who she is, who is speaking to you now] SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. 2 John 1:1-2 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth. For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
2 John 1:9-13 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not “the Father”. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him Father’s speed: For he that biddeth him “GOD” speed is partaker of his evil deeds. Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, AND SPEAK FACE TO FACE, that our joy may be full. “THE CHILDREN OF THY ELECT SISTER GREET THEE. Amen.




Shalom