why do atheists choose to live?

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Apr 21, 2012
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Watch the video first before you remark please. As long as you are happy then there is a point to life.

Why don't you ask why people of other faiths choose to live? According to your beliefs where do they end
up going after they die? What's the point in that?
thats according to mine not theirs and being happy does not give a point to your life seeing as you will never remember said happiness after your death so why bother even being happy? it's pointless. at least in their belief system there is a point to striving towards something.
 
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thats according to mine not theirs and being happy does not give a point to your life seeing as you will never remember said happiness after your death so why bother even being happy? it's pointless. at least in their belief system there is a point to striving towards something.
Some might say that expecting an afterlife is wishful thinking. All info on afterlife is speculative at best.
 
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Some might say that expecting an afterlife is wishful thinking. All info on afterlife is speculative at best.
but I honestly beleive there is as afterlife based on what I've read and looked into. Someone who doesn't is basically living for what will ultimately seem to never have existed
 

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I always believed in God.

on my terms i would make a mess and ask for his help the way i thought i needed it.

Yet there were times when i could see no point to life, why did you send me here i'd ask..

i was selfish and ignorant, making a mess and expecting him to pick up the pieces.

When i look back he never left me always calling me one way or another.. i was ignoring him.

I never felt the Love i have for him now back then.

i'm eternally grateful to know and Love him such a Blessing from our existence he is Wonderful and Almighty Forever.

I do not understand much but i know he is Amazing and deserves us all to Worship him in Spirit and Truth.

If life is to learn this then so be it, nothing that could happen here is worse than at the end not going to be with Him.
 
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but I honestly beleive there is as afterlife based on what I've read and looked into. Someone who doesn't is basically living for what will ultimately seem to never have existed
That is fine. You should continue to believe if that is what you feel is right.

Atheists may think the point of life is to just live life, to experience it. One may argue that atheists get more
out of life and live every day to the fullest because they know that their time to be alive is limited. Just because a person is an atheist doesn't mean that they think life is any less beautiful.
 
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That is fine. You should continue to believe if that is what you feel is right.

Atheists may think the point of life is to just live life, to experience it. One may argue that atheists get more
out of life and live every day to the fullest because they know that their time to be alive is limited. Just because a person is an atheist doesn't mean that they think life is any less beautiful.
Reality,

May I ask if you believe in spirits of dead people (ghosts)?
 
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That is fine. You should continue to believe if that is what you feel is right.

Atheists may think the point of life is to just live life, to experience it. One may argue that atheists get more
out of life and live every day to the fullest because they know that their time to be alive is limited. Just because a person is an atheist doesn't mean that they think life is any less beautiful.
you're missing the point... it's pointless since they will never know they even lived once they died.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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you're missing the point... it's pointless since they will never know they even lived once they died.
I'm not missing the point. You need to explain how you KNOW that we will KNOW anything after we die.
Belief is not the same as knowing.

I do not believe in ghosts but I cannot say with certainty that they do not exist.
 
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Reality,

My point being, those who are led by the Spirit of God are given the evidence (testimony) of the Christ and of God. That is how our belief is certain, because to us, it is made real. May I also add, the way of thinking is changed also, seeing that the mind of Christ is given to us also by the Spirit.

I really do not think you can find any answers with others, but if you seek it spiritually, and continiously, perhaps God will relent.
 
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if you are merely the sum of your memories and there is no afterlife and you simply cease to be then what is the point to living your life? When you die it might as well be as though you never lived right? so why even bother with dealing with it.
As a former atheist, I'll give you my perspective. I was severly depressed when I was an atheist. When I was suicidal, I went to counseling. What I learned there was not to hurt myself because of my circumstances, and I extended this idea to taking my pains and frustrations out on other people. I was quite a vicious and cold person. I wouldn't kill anyone, only because of my view on death. I didn't believe in heaven or hell, or any sort of afterlife, and that's the only reason I didn't kill anyone. I didn't want to kill them, because to me, that would be the end. I wanted them to live and feel pain.

The only thing that really kept me going was graduating high school and going on to college. I went to a college that was quite a distance from where I was (I think only 1 other person that I knew in high school went there), but still in the same state. I viewed it as a fresh start, that it was going to be better. I spent every second in high school thinking about how much I hated everyone and everything about that school. For the most part, college was a lot better. The only person in college that believed me when I told him about my life in high school was my roommate freshmen year, and because he was coming off the end of my high school life.

There were still some things about me. I knew that whenever I wanted, I could still return to being the person I was in high school. I had friends, but none of them were really close. I also still really hated being touched, in any way outside of a handshake (something else I picked up during my atheist years). A pat on the back, hugs, or even someone putting their arm around my shoulder like friends do in photos, I couldn't stand it. In my 4th year of college I went on a mission trip. Many of my friends went in previous years and always came back talking about how great it was. I'd never been on one, so I wanted to try it myself. To make an even longer story short, one night on the mission trip, I had an evil spirit cast out of me in the name of Jesus Christ, and I literally changed overnight. I was no longer afraid to have close friends (I vowed to myself a year before not to have close friends again) and I actually enjoyed being touched and hugged by my friends.

Even if someone does find evidence to support atheism and totally disproves Christianity (it's never been done before, and given my encounters with atheists, I'm not expecting anything new or rational to emerge from them anytime soon), I would still not go back to being an atheist. It's dangerous not just for me, but for everyone around me. I'm thankful everyday that I'm not who I once was.
 
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I'm not missing the point. You need to explain how you KNOW that we will KNOW anything after we die.
Belief is not the same as knowing.

I do not believe in ghosts but I cannot say with certainty that they do not exist.
We don't need to prove anything to you. Another fun fact, even when I was an atheist, I admitted that just the idea of the universe having a Creator (be it God or something else) made far more sense than the idea that the universe didn't have a Creator (the religion of naturalism), even though I still didn't believe in God during the time. Seems Romans 1 has been verified as truth once again.
 
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Reality,

My point being, those who are led by the Spirit of God are given the evidence (testimony) of the Christ and of God. That is how our belief is certain, because to us, it is made real. May I also add, the way of thinking is changed also, seeing that the mind of Christ is given to us also by the Spirit.

I really do not think you can find any answers with others, but if you seek it spiritually, and continiously, perhaps God will relent.
I respect your reply. I can't help but think why is there so much confusion about which God to believe in?
If there is one God who loves all people on earth why is there so much separation and disagreement? There should be more unity in that respect. I don't doubt your sincerity but honestly, how is that different from what a Muslim or Jew believes? For the most part people "believe" in what the popular religion is in there region. It is the accident of geographical birth. Friends, family, it is a strong social bond no doubt.
 
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Some might say that expecting an afterlife is wishful thinking. All info on afterlife is speculative at best.
This, is most definitely incorrect.
 
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I respect your reply. I can't help but think why is there so much confusion about which God to believe in?
If there is one God who loves all people on earth why is there so much separation and disagreement? There should be more unity in that respect. I don't doubt your sincerity but honestly, how is that different from what a Muslim or Jew believes? For the most part people "believe" in what the popular religion is in there region. It is the accident of geographical birth. Friends, family, it is a strong social bond no doubt.
Be careful about Genetic Fallacies. They are very tempting, tempting indeed.
 
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We don't need to prove anything to you. Another fun fact, even when I was an atheist, I admitted that just the idea of the universe having a Creator (be it God or something else) made far more sense than the idea that the universe didn't have a Creator (the religion of naturalism), even though I still didn't believe in God during the time. Seems Romans 1 has been verified as truth once again.
That's all well and fine but maybe one day science may provide a solid answer to all of our universe questions.
Or God could just reveal himself to the world through a TV. Why He chose to "reveal" himself to very superstitious middle easterners in the Bronze Age is beyond me.

One thing is for certain, things that ancient people thought were magic have turned out to be NOT MAGIC!
 
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Be careful about Genetic Fallacies. They are very tempting, tempting indeed.
This is an example of a genetic fallacy.

"I was brought up to believe in God, and my parents told me God exists, so He must."
 
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I respect your reply. I can't help but think why is there so much confusion about which God to believe in?
If there is one God who loves all people on earth why is there so much separation and disagreement? There should be more unity in that respect. I don't doubt your sincerity but honestly, how is that different from what a Muslim or Jew believes? For the most part people "believe" in what the popular religion is in there region. It is the accident of geographical birth. Friends, family, it is a strong social bond no doubt.
I can only testify from my God, and what you have said I cannot contridict, it is all a matter of geo. I can only testify of the Truth I know to be. And that is: Satan desires and works very hard to led away from the Christ. But that the Spirit is the One leading to Christ is even contradicted even by those who call themselves brothes, as you see in the thread above. As long as we are here, there will be those who mock God in His adminstration.

Honesly, the only thing I call tell you, God is real because I have been given the testomony of Him. God is real to me because He walks with me and He talks to me (spiritually). And He assures me my faith in Him is a true faith.

Seek not your answer with man, but go to God and if you think you are talking to thin air, just continue. i promise you that a heart seeking Him will find Him.
 
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Be careful about Genetic Fallacies. They are very tempting, tempting indeed.
You are very said jimmy to say that my statement of the Holy Spirit giving the testimony of the Christ is a fallacy. Very sad indeed.