Why do Catholics receive so much hate???

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Excuse my interruption... As u were...
Keep hating, resenting and judging among yourselves if u believe thats what God wants...
I couldn't help but notice that you snipped out the facts pertaining to the R.C.C., as well as avoided the questions that I had asked, when you quoted my post. That's ok because I know read them. I have known a lot of people that were born into Roman Catholism, as well as the Vatican's harlot false prophet groups. better known as the Seventh Day Adventists, Watchtower Society of Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and the Temples of Baal better known as the Masonic Lodges; But they had been born again by the Spirit of God, and have been saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. What they all have in common is that they are fully aware of what The True and Living Lord Jesus Christ delivered them from, as He saved them unto Himself. They also know that the aforementioned groups, including the Great Whore all worship the Devil.

There is a reason why many don't repent, and The Lord made that clear when speaking to Nicodemus about why a man must be born again in John 3. This is a highlight from the passage that convicted me prior to my being born again: (Take note on how and why people are condemned);

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

This is another passage that also convicted me. Listen to what Jesus said: (Very carefully consider the contrast between trusting Jesus Christ alone for salvation to that of men);

Joh 5:37-38 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

Joh 5:39-40 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Joh 5:41-42
I receive not honour from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.

Joh 5:43-44 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?
 

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Many people like myself are born into the religion so your suggesting that God throws people to hell based on who they were born to.
The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were put together by the Catholic church and is the same through the various translations...

Ok grace saves and that comes through faith... U guys are implying that Catholics have no faith which is just a joke...
These denominations all branched off the RCC, so if the RCC is sending its people to hell then all these denominations are as well according to you... And if there is only one true Gospel then u better hope yours is the right one, you have a 1 in 40,000 chance, good luck... LoL... U guys are funny as...:D:D:D



Again this false belief that Catholics have no faith. And this notion that the RCC is evil cos it has some different teachings to mine but every other denomination is fine even though we disagree... :LOL::LOL::LOL:



Oh ok so those people that i described in the op were not displaying hate towards me because im a Catholic...
Well then, my bad i guess... Point taken...
(Note to self... being discriminated against because of my religion isn't defined as hate by those who disagree with some RCC doctrines)
no, they were not, displaying hate to you but dislike for a System that has hurt many of our love one's who are led astray by the RCC. FYI many of us came out of the RCC. We do not hate you because you are RCC We dislike the RCC because they are unbiblical. And Martin Luther Provided the proof.
 

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Excuse my interruption... As u were...
Keep hating, resenting and judging among yourselves if u believe thats what God wants...
Again If you can show me one thing that was hate to you specifically I will be happy to deal with it. However, anger to or dislike of the RCC is not hated.
 

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1Cor 10:32-33 . . Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks
or the church of God-- even as I try to please everybody in every way. For I
am not seeking my own good but the good of many, so that they may be
saved.

No doubt a whole Sunday-morning sermon could be devoted to that passage
in regard to how people are turned off to the gospel by the thoughtless ways
they're treated by someone reputed to be a Christian.
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Gen 26:14b . . so that the Philistines envied him.

Some feel that the Philistines' envy was rooted in anti-Semitism. Well . . .
there are always those seeking to enhance their own image as a victim; and
this chapter would certainly seem a good source of propaganda for that
purpose.

Envy is a normal human emotion that is typically blind to racial and ethnic
identities. Envy isn't restricted to anti-Semitism, nor does it serve to identify
it. Envy is a powerful passion; destroying friendships, fueling fierce rivalries,
generating strong desires for revenge, and fracturing solidarity.

NOTE: Madison Avenue typically combines envy with gloating; which
Webster's defines as to show in an improper or selfish way that you are
happy with your own success or another person's failure. Whenever
someone's goods and/or services in an ad are superior to others, there's
usually no sympathy shown by the one with the superior stuff; only gloating
over those less fortunate with no concern at all for their feelings. Thus
advertisers encourage consumer rivalry and smug satisfaction. It's very
common in TV ads.

Just watch the ads on TV, and the ones in magazines and you'll see. They
constantly provoke us to keep up with and/or surpass our peers in clothing,
cars, physical appearance, business success, and popularity. Envy is a
powerful, negative feeling that overwhelms us whenever others are doing
better than ourselves.

Gen 26:15 . . And the Philistines stopped up all the wells which his father's
servants had dug in the days of his father Abraham, filling them with earth.

You would think the Philistines would value those wells and put the water to
use for themselves. But actually, there weren't really all that many
Philistines in the Gerar area at the time. They didn't need the water; and
they sure didn't want any squatters to discover the wells and thus be
encouraged to settle down in their region.

Abimelech forbade his citizens to harm Isaac; but that didn't preclude
harassing and annoying him. Cutting off his water supplies was very serious
because Isaac needed them to irrigate crops and water the livestock.
Without adequate water supplies, Isaac Enterprises was doomed. He had a
right to file a complaint. But Abimelech felt it best for all concerned to run
Isaac out of the country.

NOTE: I've a suspicion that the rural Philistines had become territorial; which
can be roughly defined as an assumed property right due to long-time
occupation; whether legal or otherwise. In other words; Isaac's rivals
probably felt that although they didn't actually own the countryside, they
had been there longer than Isaac so they had a preemptive right to dictate
its use. It's a Neanderthal's way of thinking, but goes on all the time;
commonly in work places where senior employees are inclined to dominate
new hires.

Gen 26:16 . . And Abimelech said to Isaac: Go away from us, for you have
become far too big for us.

Just exactly what Abimelech meant by "far too big for us" is hard to know for
sure. But it looks suspiciously like a cowardly act of favoritism; pure and
simple. Instead of being fair and equitable with Isaac, Abimelech, like a
cheap politician, ignored the vandalism his citizens had done against Isaac
and made it look like this whole nasty business was his fault; vz: he was just
getting too greedy and beginning to crowd everybody else out.

Was this maybe the first antitrust suit in history? Antitrust laws, in reality,
put a limit on prosperity. They say that the principles of life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness are okay as long as you don't pursue them to an
extreme. People often believe in a free enterprise system; but typically only
up until somebody else's enterprise is having much better success at it than
theirs.

Gen 26:17 . . So Isaac departed from there and encamped in the wadi of
Gerar, where he settled.

A wadi named Nahal Gerar is on modern maps of the Gaza region. Whether
or not that was Isaac's wadi I don't know. Wadis are basins in which brooks
flow, and therefore, were the well-watered and fertile parts of the country.
In times of scant rain up in the highlands, the brooks in many wadis dry up,
and then it becomes necessary to dig wells down into the subterranean
water table.

According to
ERETZ magazine, issue 64, the Gerar river draws its waters
from tributaries that run along the slopes of the rain-swept Hebron
mountains. Enormous amounts of water flow through it in winter, flooding
the channel an average of seven times a year.

Gen 26:18 . . Isaac dug anew the wells which had been dug in the days of
his father Abraham and which the Philistines had stopped up after Abraham's
death; and he gave them the same names that his father had given them.

Those wells were dug nearly a hundred years prior to this event; and makes
one wonder how Isaac knew where they were and how he knew the names
his dad had named them. The Gerarians probably waited until Abraham was
dead to plug them up because they feared him. He had a reputation as a
military leader and he also had a pact with the king Abimelech of Abraham's
period.

Gen 26:19-20 . . But when Isaac's servants, digging in the wadi, found
there a well of spring water, the herdsmen of Gerar quarreled with Isaac's
herdsmen, saying: The water is ours. He named that well Esek, because
they contended with him.

Isaac was much too affable. He didn't have to let those guys buffalo him;
after all, Isaac had a pretty good sized army of his own; left to him by his
dad. He could easily have posted an armed platoon by the well to keep the
local cowboys away from it. But no, he chose rather to condescend and let
them have their own way. Isaac was truly a "turn the other cheek" kind of
guy who was willing (maybe a bit too willing) to bend over backward to
accommodate people and prevent violence and ill will.

Esek was a new well; not one of Abraham's. The herdsmen were motivated
by envy so they were reluctant to share the regions resources with the likes
of Isaac because they hated his success. They didn't contest Isaac's access
to the water in Abraham's wells. They probably felt he had a right to use
those; but the men would not tolerate Isaac taking any more water than
that; and most especially water of this quality. It was literally living water
viz: artesian.

Urban dwellers really don't appreciate their water and typically haven't a
clue where it comes from nor how it gets into their homes. But in Isaac's
day, people couldn't live too far from a natural source of water. Many of the
ancient cities and communities were located adjacent to rivers for that very
reason.
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