Why do Catholics receive so much hate???

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Nehemiah6

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Racist is your reaction to the fact, plus you haven't posted anything proving He's not black. You just saying so does not cut it.
Here is the reason why Jesus was NOT black but brown (Middle Eastern).

ADAM--->SETH--->NOAH--->SHEM--->ABRAHAM--->ISAAC--->JACOB--->JUDAH--->DAVID--->MARY---->JESUS.

The descendants of Shem were Semitic (Shemites), and the Semitic people are not black.
 

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So someone here thinks it is FUNNY that Christ was a Middle Eastern Jew, and that they are all shades of brown.

The reason the majority of Jews in Israel today are more Caucasian than Middle Eastern is because they all came from Europe or the Caucasus (Central Asia) after Israel became a nation-state in 1948. Theodor Herzl, the father of Zionism, was from Austria. Many were from Poland, Russia, and Germany.
 

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The only thing we have in common is knowing and professing that God and the Israelites are black. I believe [know] in the new testament and the new Israel, where God's house will be a house of prayer for all people. Isn't that what the scriptures say?
Do you agree that Jesus is the true Israel?

Jesus is Israel (Matthew 2:13-15,19-21; Hosea 11:1; his children are his disciples; Hebrews 2:13; Isaiah 8:16,18; John 13:33), the true "overcomer" (John 16:33; Revelation 3:21), the real "Prince" with God (Isaiah 9:6; Daniel 8:11,25, 9:25, 10:13,21, 11:22, 12:1; Acts 3:15, 5:31; Revelation 1:5), being Lord over His own house, whose house are we (Psalms 98:3; Hebrews 3:6; Jeremiah 31:33), who himself is the "elect" (Isaiah 42:1; Matthew 12:18; 1 Peter 2:6) of the Father, in whom all the promises of God find their realization (2 Corinthians 1:20). The promises made by God were all based upon condition (Exodus 19).

Mat 2:13-15,19-21; Hos 11:1; Jer 31:33; Rom 9:6-8; Heb 2:13; Isa 8:16,18; Jhn 13:33, 16:33, 17:12, 18:9, 21:5; 1 Cor 15:46; 2 Cor 1:20; Gal 6:16; Heb 3:6, 8:8,10; Rev 3:21

'Israel' after the flesh, as a 'nation', is left desolate (Matthew 23:38; Luke 13:35), to bear no more fruit ever again (Matthew 21:19), cursed, withered away (Mark 11:21), dried up from the roots (Mark 11:20), "twice dead" (Jude 1:12), and the axe already laid at their root (Matthew 3:10; Luke 3:9), cut down and to be thrown into the fire.
 
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Now we see why race matters!
The flesh profits for nothing. The loving "commandment" is we know no man after the flesh (what the eyes see), Some did know Christ after the flesh. The one time demonstration is over.

Spiritual lives matter. No spirit, no life, no matter..

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 

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Col 4:6 . . Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt

Grace can be defined as kind, courteous, gentle, patient, lenient, inclined to
good will, generous, charitable, altruistic, compassionate, sympathetic,
thoughtful, cordial, affable, genial, sociable, cheerful, warm, sensitive,
hospitable, considerate, and tactful.

It seems to me from the language and grammar of Matt 5:13, Mark 9:50,
and Luke 14:34 that the primary purpose of salt is to enhance flavor and
make otherwise naturally insipid and/or bad-tasting things palatable, viz:
salt can be thought of as diplomacy; roughly defined as conversation that
makes an effort to maintain peace rather than provoke conflict and/or annoy
people and make them uncomfortable.
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'Israel' after the flesh, as a 'nation', is left desolate (Matthew 23:38; Luke 13:35), to bear no more fruit ever again (Matthew 21:19), cursed, withered away (Mark 11:21), dried up from the roots (Mark 11:20), "twice dead" (Jude 1:12), and the axe already laid at their root (Matthew 3:10; Luke 3:9), cut down and to be thrown into the fire.
This is Part 1 of a 2 Part Post:

There are a lot of major doctrinal errors in your post that are in direct opposition to God the Father, The Lord Jesus Christ and His chosen Apostles.

Do not be deceived; God has not cast away His people, the Nation of Israel - Apostle Paul made that most abundantly clear within the full context of Romans 10-11, and Israel is beloved by God the Father; Also read Genesis 12 forward, and the rest of the Bible for that matter. There is a tremendous amount of prophecy surrounding the nation of Israel, along with severe penalties for anyone and everyone that goes against the nation of Israel; And these penalties are firmly established by The Sovereign Lord God Almighty in His written Word! It is also necessary to grasp that Israel, through their unbelief, play a vital role in God's plan for salvation.

Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,

Rom 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

Rom 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; ) unto this day.

Rom 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

Rom 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

Rom 11:14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Rom 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

Rom 11:35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
 

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Do you agree that Jesus is the true Israel?

Jesus is Israel (Matthew 2:13-15,19-21; Hosea 11:1; his children are his disciples; Hebrews 2:13; Isaiah 8:16,18; John 13:33), the true "overcomer" (John 16:33; Revelation 3:21), the real "Prince" with God (Isaiah 9:6; Daniel 8:11,25, 9:25, 10:13,21, 11:22, 12:1; Acts 3:15, 5:31; Revelation 1:5), being Lord over His own house, whose house are we (Psalms 98:3; Hebrews 3:6; Jeremiah 31:33), who himself is the "elect" (Isaiah 42:1; Matthew 12:18; 1 Peter 2:6) of the Father, in whom all the promises of God find their realization (2 Corinthians 1:20). The promises made by God were all based upon condition (Exodus 19).

Mat 2:13-15,19-21; Hos 11:1; Jer 31:33; Rom 9:6-8; Heb 2:13; Isa 8:16,18; Jhn 13:33, 16:33, 17:12, 18:9, 21:5; 1 Cor 15:46; 2 Cor 1:20; Gal 6:16; Heb 3:6, 8:8,10; Rev 3:21

'Israel' after the flesh, as a 'nation', is left desolate (Matthew 23:38; Luke 13:35), to bear no more fruit ever again (Matthew 21:19), cursed, withered away (Mark 11:21), dried up from the roots (Mark 11:20), "twice dead" (Jude 1:12), and the axe already laid at their root (Matthew 3:10; Luke 3:9), cut down and to be thrown into the fire.
This is Part 2 of a 2 Part Post:

There are a lot of major doctrinal errors in your post that are in direct opposition to God the Father, The Lord Jesus Christ and His chosen Apostles.

Do not be deceived; God has not cast away His people, the Nation of Israel - Apostle Paul made that most abundantly clear within the full context of Romans 10-11, and Israel is beloved by God the Father; Also read Genesis 12 forward, and the rest of the Bible for that matter. There is a tremendous amount of prophecy surrounding the nation of Israel, along with severe penalties for anyone and everyone that goes against the nation of Israel; And these penalties are firmly established by The Sovereign Lord God Almighty in His written Word! It is also necessary to grasp that Israel, through their unbelief, play a vital role in God's plan for salvation.


Furthermore, The Lord Jesus Christ, Whom you claim to be speaking of, also made it abundantly clear in both Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9 that there is distinction between Jews to those that are of the Synagogue of Satan.

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
 
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The Catholics should receive no hate, but hate their beliefs.

Jesus said there is only one that is good, and that is God, which He was giving glory to God that He does good because God causes Him to do good.

Jesus said call no man on earth father in a spiritual sense.

But they call the Pope Holy Father.

Christ is the head of the Church not the Pope.

God said do not bow down to any image in heaven, in the air, on earth, or in the sea, but they bow down to a statue of Mary.

All glory goes to God, and He said He does not give His glory to another.

They call her mother of God, but God cannot be born, and she only gave birth to the flesh, for how do you give birth to the Spirit.

And the Spirit is omnipresent and does not have to move for the Spirit is already there, and Jesus does not have His own personal Spirit that moves around with Him for there cannot be a double portion of the Spirit in one spot, and an empty space where the Spirit is not, but Jesus moves through the Spirit and wherever He is at the Spirit is there.

They say Mary is blessed above the saints even calling her Queen of heaven, but Jesus was speaking to a crowd, and the disciples told Him that His mother and brethren were standing outside of the crowd wanting to speak to Him, and Jesus pointed to the disciples and said behold my mother and brethren, for whoever does the will of God the same is my mother, brethren, and sisters.

Jesus was speaking to a crowd and a woman spoke up and said blessed is the woman that gave birth to you, and Jesus said yea rather blessed is those that hear the word of God and does it.

So Jesus did not give glory to Mary, and said that anybody that follows God is as blessed as her.

They have many works, and traditions that are not necessary to do for salvation, or to be closer to God, and many along the lines of the occult, but the Bible says love works no ill towards their neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law, and love is greater than faith.

They confess their sins to a priest, but the mediator between God and people is the man Christ Jesus, and Jesus has made all the saints priests and kings unto God the Father, not only certain people that they say are priests, and we confess our sins to God.

They use physical objects thinking there is power there, and even were in to punishing themselves to show remorse for their sins, and also believed it could reduce punishment.

There is so much that they do that is wrong, and not of God, and it is obvious that when the Roman Empire embraced Christianity, and the Bible, that they did not get rid of their occult, pagan ways, and it became their foundation for the interpreting of scriptures.

Which means they can sway in their beliefs which they will become more of the occult as time goes on, and revert back to how they were before Christianity but worse for the Pope and Vatican will embrace the new age movement who have a different interpretation of the Bible, and the Pope will become the spiritual leader of a unified religious system, and the Vatican the headquarters.

Since evolution came out the occult starting interpreting the Bible, religions, and reality differently, so things will change because of that.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

The new age movement interprets the Bible according to the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master and avatar, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and they believe the Christ conscience will come upon him, and he will evolve to be greater and spiritual above Jesus, and all who follow him will evolve.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The time will come that the world will want to hear the Bible according to their own lusts to evolve to be spiritual with no higher power above them.

This is how they interpret the Bible now, and that is why they took prayer out of school and taught evolution, and they believe science confirms evolution.

The Bible says the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts the world down, which they are extended to include America, Europe, and all Caucasian led nations, and since the Catholic Church is their religious institution they will change to go along with their new belief system.

The Bible says they will mingle themselves with the seed of men which started in America, and will extend to the world.

On the back of the dollar bill, announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

Set up 2 opposing forces, the Hegel System, Republican and Democrat, democracy and socialism, for it gets everyone involved for they will choose a side then they come together with a balance between them and it brings the people together.

Which Republican and Democrat were working together the whole time, and America and Russia were working together the whole time.

Which the global government will be a balance between socialism and democracy to bring the nations together, but it will turn in to a totalitarian government once the power is on the side of the New Age Christ.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East, and push the agenda of the new age movement to prepare the world for when he claims to be God by evolving through nature, and the Pope and Vatican will go along with him.

But there will be a new Pope when that time comes, and the Vatican was probably infiltrated by new age people to change it from within, and get in the Cardinal positions and elect the Pope to go along with the new age movement.

When the New Age Christ pushes the agenda of the new age movement many people will start following it, and it will become popular, and will be the time the world will not endure the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts to evolve through nature, and there is no personal God to help them.

So it will be easy for the Pope and Vatican to make the change to the new age movement, but they already have that plan now as well as America already has that plan now.

The occult, and paganism is the foundation of the Catholic Church.

Like Joseph Smith, Scientology, Christian Science, new age movement, and others that have a belief that is not part of the Bible and it becomes their foundation for the interpreting of scriptures.
 
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Do you agree that Jesus is the true Israel?

'Israel' after the flesh, as a 'nation', is left desolate (Matthew 23:38; Luke 13:35), to bear no more fruit ever again (Matthew 21:19), cursed, withered away (Mark 11:21), dried up from the roots (Mark 11:20), "twice dead" (Jude 1:12), and the axe already laid at their root (Matthew 3:10; Luke 3:9), cut down and to be thrown into the fire.
All who follow Jesus is part of Israel, and Israel is the Church, which Jesus said salvation is of the Jews, and when a Gentile is saved they are a Jew inward, and part of the commonwealth of Israel.

If a Gentile when saved becomes part of the commonwealth, nation of Israel then Israel still stands.

It is Israel all the way from Abraham, to Jacob, to Jesus, to the Church, to the millennial reign of Christ, to the New Jerusalem.

Jesus said that the Jews will not see Him again until they say blessed is He that comes in the name of the Lord, and God said any time that the nation of Israel turns to God in the truth that He will hear them, and save them and restore them to their position of a great nation, and give them prosperity.

The disciples asked Jesus if He was going to restore the kingdom to the Jews at that time, and He said the Father will do it in the future.

God said that He will gather the whole house of Israel back to their land, all 12 tribes, and leave none of them in the nations anymore, and they will know the LORD their God from that time forward, and He will never hide His face from them again, which they will be in the truth and never stray from it again.

So the kingdom on earth will be restored to the Jews, after they have borne their shame for rejecting the truth, and God said He will make a full end of all Gentile nations, but not make a full end of Israel.

God said if the ordinances of heaven are still in affect, the sun, moon, and stars, then His covenant with Israel still stands, and they will not cease from being a nation.

Paul said God has not cast away His people that He once foreknew, and God always restores Israel.

Israel is blinded in part until the fulness of the Gentiles have come in which is when salvation is no longer available to them, and so all Israel shall be saved.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East, and it will pave the way for all Jews to go to Israel for the Gentile nations will cause it, and the man of sin wants them all back on their land, but God means it for good towards the Jews, and will restore the kingdom to Israel.

The 12 tribes of Israel, and the 12 apostles of the Lamb, are written in the New Jerusalem, because Israel is the Church.
 

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Why???

I was born and raised in a Catholic family. I walked away from God into the darkness before coming back...
When I came back to God I had a very basic understanding of Christianity and some false perceptions...
I read the bible and had some and had some serious concerns about the practices of my Catholic parents...
They're Portuguese and have always had a huge adoration for Fatima which I became very uncomfortable about it...
I still am uncomfortable and often pray to God to show them mercy if they have fallen into idolatry.


I joined a Catholic and was met with hostility so started to look for another church...
I thought that there were only a hand full of denominations and that they were all friendly to each other...
The amount of division and hatred was so distressing it often brought me tears...
Learning about God was a joy but learning about Christianity was agonizing...
I became so confused that I just decided to keep going to a Catholic church to worship God...


I joined a Christian forum and for 6 months it was all good. They were all friendly and welcoming...
I don't promote Catholicism, i don't defend Catholicism but people on that forum started to treat me differently...
People became more critical, more hostile and just straight out rude but i had no idea why...


I had changed my avatar to a picture of the Sacred Heart of Christ. Well, little did I know that it was a Catholic thing and little did i know that people would go from being friendly to being obnoxious because of that...

When i started an inquiry thread i got responses like "Catholics are..." or "the Vatican..."
I was either being generalized or i was being punished for the decisions made by the RCC in the past...
Not all Catholics are the same, we aren't robots and we have no authority over the Vatican's decisions either.


Why is that??? Im not saying everyone is like that but there are certain people that are.
They treat you like you a Satanist or something. Why???
Who can explain the acidic self destructive nature of hate?
Remember that old truism, you shall know them by their fruits, by their deeds, and behaviors. Maybe find peace not trying to understand hatred as you've witnessed cast toward the Catholic, rather instead pray for that one that shows themselves to be of hate. While you remain in the light of Christ unaffected.
 

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This is Part 1 of a 2 Part Post:

There are a lot of major doctrinal errors in your post that are in direct opposition to God the Father, The Lord Jesus Christ and His chosen Apostles.

Do not be deceived; God has not cast away His people, the Nation of Israel - Apostle Paul made that most abundantly clear within the full context of Romans 10-11, and Israel is beloved by God the Father; Also read Genesis 12 forward, and the rest of the Bible for that matter. There is a tremendous amount of prophecy surrounding the nation of Israel, along with severe penalties for anyone and everyone that goes against the nation of Israel; And these penalties are firmly established by The Sovereign Lord God Almighty in His written Word! It is also necessary to grasp that Israel, through their unbelief, play a vital role in God's plan for salvation.

Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,

Rom 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

Rom 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

Rom 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; ) unto this day.

Rom 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

Rom 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

Rom 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

Rom 11:14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Rom 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

Rom 11:35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
Why do you find it necessary to YELL? The truth of Scripture is not received better by virtue of 'volume'. Just use regular font and let the Holy Spirit do the emphasizing.
 

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Why do you find it necessary to YELL? The truth of Scripture is not received better by virtue of 'volume'. Just use regular font and let the Holy Spirit do the emphasizing.
Are you the designated font police? :geek: Are you the chief font popo? :LOL:
 

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Your response speaks volumes... none of it good.
Well, I was certain that you, as a busy body, were working to sow strife here to be divisive. You don't see me going around policing how people should write their posts, nor anyone else for that matter. It is all you running interference just as you did on the other thread. That speaks volume enough for me to know whose side you're on, and that's not good.

Before you are quick to write something in desperation in response, simply review the last two instances in which you were the first to 'have a go' at me, and examine the points of which you had belligerently interfered.
 

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Well, I was certain that you, as a busy body, were working to sow strife here to be divisive. You don't see me going around policing how people should write their posts, nor anyone else for that matter. It is all you running interference just as you did on the other thread. That speaks volume enough for me to know whose side you're on, and that's not good.

Before you are quick to write something in desperation in response, simply review the last two instances in which you were the first to 'have a go' at me, and examine the points of which you had belligerently interfered.
Any member is here free to contribute on any thread at any time. That's the nature of the forum. If you want to have a private discussion, don't post in a discussion thread.

If you want to promote biblical truth, I'll have your back. If you want to promote silliness, I'm going to get in your face. Deal with it.
 

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Any member is here free to contribute on any thread at any time. That's the nature of the forum. If you want to have a private discussion, don't post in a discussion thread.

If you want to promote biblical truth, I'll have your back. If you want to promote silliness, I'm going to get in your face. Deal with it.
Perhaps next time, if you are able, you can send me a private message since you were the one to have instigated both instances. It is my hope that you are sincere about engaging and promoting Biblical truth.
 

Dino246

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Perhaps next time, if you are able, you can send me a private message since you were the one to have instigated both instances.
What is the point of posting on a public Discussion forum if you are going to avoid or discourage public discussion?