Why do Christians believe in a place of torment called Hell?

[Duckybill]

The verse about "they have no rest day or night" doesn't say forever, though.

What a lie!

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

If it did then that'd be different. There have been times I had no rest day or night and it certainly didn't last forever.

The word forever is not attached to having no rest day or night.

Another LIE!

They have no rest day or night for a period or time, whether one day/night cycle, two, or more but it certainly doesn't say forever.

Another LIE! Did your church tell you what will happen to "all liars"?

Revelation 21:8 (NKJV)
8 All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

 

[Runningman]

What a lie!

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Another LIE!

Another LIE! Did your church tell you what will happen to "all liars"?

Revelation 21:8 (NKJV)
8 All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

You're calling God a liar now?

Behold Revelation 14:11:

Rev. 14:11 KJV
11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Where do you see the word forever or eternal attached to having no rest day or night? This should be interesting to see how you twist God's word to suit your agenda.

 

[Duckybill]

You're calling God a liar now?

No, I said you lied and just lied again.

Revelation 21:8 (NKJV)
8 All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

Behold Revelation 14:11:

Rev. 14:11 KJV
11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Where do you see the word forever or eternal attached to having no rest day or night? This should be interesting to see how you twist God's word to suit your agenda.

You just said it yourself. I put it in BOLD. Don't you read your own posts?

 

[Runningman]

No, I said you lied and just lied again.

Revelation 21:8 (NKJV)
8 All liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

You just said it yourself. I put it in BOLD. Don't you read your own posts?

You bolded it and still didn't read it. Revelation 14:11 says the smoke rises forever, not that the torment lasts forever.

Don't try to change the subject because I have you cornered in a lie. Do you admit that the word forever or eternal is not attached to "they have no rest day or night?"

 

[Duckybill]

You bolded it and still didn't read it. Revelation 14:11 says the smoke rises forever, not that the torment lasts forever.

The smoke rises forever and ever but the torment ceases? lol

Don't try to change the subject because I have you cornered in a lie. Do you admit that the word forever or eternal is not attached to "they have no rest day or night?"

I will admit that you're totally evasive.

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

 

[rayzor]

Runningman: psychopath don't understand idioms ""they have no rest day or night?"I hope your playing dumb!

 

[Icedaisey]

I'll take the Bible over Strong's any day.

That's your opinion. Everlasting fire is Jesus' "opinion". I'll take His Word.

The Christian Bible is about the FEAR of God.

You are against education in proper Exegesis. That's obvious and sad.

The Bible was not originally written in English. I realize you do not know this
You are scared to death of the god you worship.
That's Masochistic Personality Disorder.

That isn't Christ.

 

[Icedaisey]

Runningman: psychopath don't understand idioms ""they have no rest day or night?"I hope your playing dumb!

That's uncalled for.

 

[Duckybill]

You are against education in proper Exegesis. That's obvious and sad.

Don't you know "all liars" will burn in Hell?

The Bible was not originally written in English. I realize you do not know this

Another LIE!

You are scared to death of the god you worship.
That's Masochistic Personality Disorder.

That isn't Christ.

So why didn't you accept my challenge? You KNOW you would lose!

 

[Runningman]

The smoke rises forever and ever but the torment ceases? lol

Hey you're catching on.

I will admit that you're totally evasive.

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Read Matthew 25:41 again, it doesn't say the torment lasts forever, only that the fire lasts forever.

Read the context of Revelation 20, especially verses 14 and 15 describing the second death. That's pretty clear. There is no eternal life in the lake of fire, only death.

You're still avoiding addressing the lie you're propagating about Revelation 14:11, where you claim those who have no rest day and night do so eternally. You're adding to the word of God there.

Let me remind you of your solemn duty to not add to the word of God:

Revelation 22:18
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:”

 

[Runningman]

Runningman: psychopath don't understand idioms ""they have no rest day or night?"I hope your playing dumb!

I respected your opinions up until you called me a psychopath. That's disgraceful for you to say.

 

[rayzor]

Runningman It's 4 shock value not 2 curse u if your picking on that person then your being a rascal.True cursing has 2 do with not just the utterance of harsh sounds but motive

 

[Duckybill]

Hey you're catching on.

It was a question for you that you didn't answer.
"The smoke rises forever and ever but the torment ceases?"

Read Matthew 25:41 again, it doesn't say the torment lasts forever, only that the fire lasts forever.

You're simply hoping it doesn't last forever.

Read the context of Revelation 20, especially verses 14 and 15 describing the second death. That's pretty clear. There is no eternal life in the lake of fire, only death.

Yes, it's very clear! It's EVERLASTING and "FOREVER and EVER".

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

You're still avoiding addressing the lie you're propagating about Revelation 14:11, where you claim those who have no rest day and night do so eternally. You're adding to the word of God there.

It's no lie. Satan wants your company in Hell "forever and ever" as Jesus said.

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Let me remind you of your solemn duty to not add to the word of God:

Revelation 22:18
“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:”

You should have kept reading what it says about you.

Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

You lose.

 

[Runningman]

It was a question for you that you didn't answer.
"The smoke rises forever and ever but the torment ceases?"

You're simply hoping it doesn't last forever.

Yes, it's very clear! It's EVERLASTING and "FOREVER and EVER".

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

It's no lie. Satan wants your company in Hell "forever and ever" as Jesus said.

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

You should have kept reading what it says about you.

Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

You lose.

This is serious. Humble yourself before God on this matter of adding words to His book or be humbled.

 

[Duckybill]

This is serious. Humble yourself before God on this matter of adding words to His book or get humbled.

And MUCH more serious what you are doing. You've been duped by Satan.

Revelation 22:19 (NKJV)
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 

[rayzor]

Imagine:Someone is drunk and heading towards a cliff and the best way 2 stop them is to say hay! dumbo! stop!our your going to fall of the cleft!{Pickin on people is a sin.}

 

[Icedaisey]

Don't you know "all liars" will burn in Hell?

You demonstrate yourself to be very gratified in thinking people you target are going to the hell you insist exists as you imagine it to be.

You disregard references to Concordance, which assist in understanding the depth of scripture, the form of language used, etc...And betters ones understanding of God's words. Which is a positive influence that further nurtures ones spiritual relationship in The Word.

And you dismiss and insult that. That's the truth.

Another LIE!

An observation based on your behavior.

So why didn't you accept my challenge? You KNOW you would lose!

I won't continue to share scripture with you when you demonstrate you have no intention of learning from the effort expended.

No one should.
You don't wish to learn. Rather you demonstrate a personality that is like that of another here. Using the Bible scripture as an inroad to mock and insult Christians.

Feigning understanding so that when anyone here seeks to engage you and correct what you state in error, that then affords you the opportunity to attack them, insult their faith, and the actual meaning within and of scripture.

And when someone notices this you prove them right by your responding bad attitude.

Proverbs 14: 6-9
A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of understanding. Leave the presence of a fool, for there you do not meet words of knowledge. The wisdom of the prudent is to discern his way, but the folly of fools is deceiving. Fools mock at the guilt offering, but the upright enjoy acceptance.

 

[rayzor]

Runningman saidI respected your opinions up until you called me a psychopath. That's disgraceful for you to say.DID NOT only said they don't understand idioms

 

[1ofthem]

It only describes two here brother. The living soul is the two put together.

BUTTERFLY for my pic = I'm a Woman...lol

Hebrews 4:12 again soul and spirit are not the same thing.

For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

The spirit died when Adam sinned his body and soul were still alive, though.

Well, I'm not going to keep repeating myself. I don't think you have even read my last posts. I've already written about all of this in my posts. It's all there anytime you want to read through it honestly.

 

[1ofthem]

God bless,

Thank you, I am glade you know me so well.😔For the past 10 years all have done is study Gods word. Respectfully,,, making God out to be some Tyrant that tortures people is a little sad. Come to know God with Jesus in mind and he will open you all his truth.

So you talk down to me and act all condescending until I post the scriptures....now you get your feelings hurt.

This is silly.

God's ways are equal and fair. He gives everyone a chance and Jesus spent a lot of time warning on the upcoming judgment and everlasting punishment of God.

It is what it is.