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This is indeed a troll post because it is criticizing people just for doing something you disagree with. Its kinda like criticizing people for passing the offering plate in the wrong direction. Petty. Somehow I doubt I'm gonna to get to heaven and God is gonna to be like...
"Sorry bruh. I can't let you win because you called me by the wrong name." debating over little petty things like this serves no purpose
"Sorry bruh. I can't let you win because you called me by the wrong name." debating over little petty things like this serves no purpose
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No bro I think you misunderstood me. I don't necessarily agree or disagree I am simply trying to get an understanding from scholars as yourself because I have been hearing a lot about "Yahweh" and "Yeshua" lately it just makes me question is all man. I'm curious to know all I can about this great God. Didn't mean any offense.
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With Quakers using the terms thee and thou wasn't a matter of sounding holy, it was a doctrinal issue that was outside of the Bible. It was cultural. The terms thee and thou - at that time of Quakers forming in to a denomination - were used by the catholic and church of England hierarchy to appear more knowledgeable bot in Biblical matters and societal issues. Quakers used the terms as a way to break down that wall between clergy,common man and Word and stress unity of need for salvation. So it was Quakers trying to say "hey,prtentious speech doesn't make you better nor God out of the reach of common man."
That's at least as I read from a book from a branch back in PA. I've been told there's several origin theories too tho so double check me.
That's at least as I read from a book from a branch back in PA. I've been told there's several origin theories too tho so double check me.
The Name יְהוָ֔ה that God gave to Moses in Exo 6:3 is intentionally unpronounceable.
The yod is pointed with a shvah making it unvocalized. It is the English equivalent of Y'; where the apostrophe has approximately the sound of the 'uh' in duh, cut short.
The he is unpointed; but following a shvah it demands a long vowel.
the vahv is pointed with a qamats; which after an unpointed consonant has the sound of the English word 'awe'
The final he is unpointed; which would be fine after a tsere or a hat segol---but NOT after a qamats, following an unpointed consonant.
Apart from the rules of Hebrew phonology, amongst English speaking people, it is generally considered rude and disrespectful to address one's father by his given name.
Doesn't our heavenly Father deserve at least as much respect as we give our earthly fathers?
The yod is pointed with a shvah making it unvocalized. It is the English equivalent of Y'; where the apostrophe has approximately the sound of the 'uh' in duh, cut short.
The he is unpointed; but following a shvah it demands a long vowel.
the vahv is pointed with a qamats; which after an unpointed consonant has the sound of the English word 'awe'
The final he is unpointed; which would be fine after a tsere or a hat segol---but NOT after a qamats, following an unpointed consonant.
Apart from the rules of Hebrew phonology, amongst English speaking people, it is generally considered rude and disrespectful to address one's father by his given name.
Doesn't our heavenly Father deserve at least as much respect as we give our earthly fathers?
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No Marc, God needs more respect than my earthly father. My question to you is why are we afraid to call God by the name He gave Moses? I don't speak to ABBA Father as if he is my "brother from another mother". I have respect when I am praying and speaking to YHWH Elohim, the Creator of Heaven and Earth.
You can follow the Talmud ways but my Bible tells me that God gave us the name YHWH to speak to him.
You can follow the Talmud ways but my Bible tells me that God gave us the name YHWH to speak to him.
The title אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה אֲשֶׁ֣ר אֶֽהְיֶ֑ה which you are referring to is from Exo 3:14; and, is the imperfect tense which would be pronounced Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh. The Father's personal name, יְהוָ֔ה given in Exo 6:3; is in the present tense and is often mispronounced Yahweh. See previous post.
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why erroneously? As I am sure you are aware the Name is YHWH with no vowels. Thus either Yahweh (qal) or Yohweh (hiphil) is the likely pronunciation.
As you say the hybrid name in the text is deliberately unpronounceable (to a Hebrew it is like a Polish word would be to us) and arises because the vowels of adonay were applied to YHWH (occasionally it is the vowels of Elohim). The idea was that when the scribe came to the Name he would say adonay ((LORD). That is why our English texts often translate it as LORD.
As the Name now stands in the Hebrew text it can mistakenly be read as Yehowah (Jehovah) but no Hebrew would ever do so. It represents a 'word' totally foreign to Hebrew.
As you say the hybrid name in the text is deliberately unpronounceable (to a Hebrew it is like a Polish word would be to us) and arises because the vowels of adonay were applied to YHWH (occasionally it is the vowels of Elohim). The idea was that when the scribe came to the Name he would say adonay ((LORD). That is why our English texts often translate it as LORD.
As the Name now stands in the Hebrew text it can mistakenly be read as Yehowah (Jehovah) but no Hebrew would ever do so. It represents a 'word' totally foreign to Hebrew.