Why do people call God Yahweh

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MarcR

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If you want to call God by His personal Name; isn't it better to translate the Name as I AM, rather than mispronounce the Name?
 

JaumeJ

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To the title of this post, I believe the author is already quite aware of why our Father is called Yahweh.

The questions should be, why do peaople call Yahweh God, Dieu, Gott (sp), and so many other not-Abrahamic names?

You will not be penalized for calling our Father any name you believe is respectful, so why look for specks?

God is good always, we should atempt to be as is He. God bless all who are in Jesus Christ......or if you prefer, Yeshua.
 

valiant

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If you want to call God by His personal Name; isn't it better to translate the Name as I AM, rather than mispronounce the Name?
But I AM (ehyh) is the first person of YH'H. (yhyh which is the third person). Both come from the verb Hayah This is a modernised form and is not strictly speaking His Name. It is the meaning of His Name. His Name came from the ancient verb Hawah which by the time of Moses had been replaced by Hayah . Therefore on the basis of ehyeh Yahweh (He will be) is correct.
 
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Yahweh is a holy and majestic name for a holy and majestic Father.
 

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If we are honest with ourselves we have not got a clue how it was originally pronounced. The Jews mixed it with adonai and thats how we get YAHWEH now. And the reason for this was so that they would protect themselves from using the name of God in vain...their own tradition you may or may not agree with why they did it that way it doesn't really matter.

We get Jehovah in older English not because of mistranslation as too many seem to think, but in 'Olde' English Y had a J sound. What's important is the meaning of why God gave this name to Moses to give to the people (Thats a different topic). (overly simplified but you et the point)


The main point is - Jesus calls himself 'I am' rejoice in that fact
 
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YHWH = Yahweh = יהוה

3068 Yhovah yeh-ho-vaw'; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God:--Jehovah, the Lord. This is in relation to hayah haw-yaw a primitive root meaning to exist, to breathe; to be (in the sense of existence):--be, X have.

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And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you." Exodus 3:14
 
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Imo, some people name drop Yahweh or Yeshua to sound important or more studied. I have always refered to God as the Father
 
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Imo, some people name drop Yahweh or Yeshua to sound important or more studied. I have always refered to God as the Father
It's all Hebrew. If a person really knows who He is praying to, that's what's important. Different languages are throughout the world and if people speak in this one or that one, it is normal, and meaningful for them. The Hebrew language is beautiful, and when I begin a prayer it is usually "Master YHWH, perfect in all of your ways," or "Dear Heavenly Father, the One whose name is holy and perfect."
 

JaumeJ

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I will type transliterations. Yahweh is a pronounciation of yod hay vav hay. When I see it in Hebrew with the diacritical markings i get the pronounciation yay wah but keep in mind in all languages there are different accents and dialectical differences.

As far as I have been able to discern from studies Yahweh is the gerund form, that is noun, of the Hebrew verb hayah, which is a form of our infinitive in English, to be, however the meaning in Hebrew is transitive giving the meaning of Yahweh translated to English as "Self-Existing."

No creature is able to use this title in anything approaching honesty, for only Somone Who is SelfÉxisting and Almighty may use this in truth, being the Origin of all that is; that is, theMaker of all that is. People call this One God in English. In Hebrew He is cdalle Elohim, another noun meaning Mighty Ones. Mighty Ones in early times were considered gods, however Elohim is God. Do yo find it strange the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are referred to as God in plural in Hebrew? I do not.
 

MarcR

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Marc, not to be rude but if the Jews and a professor in Hebrew tells me that we pronounce YHWH's name as Yahweh I will stick with what they teach me.

We are so deceived by our own lusts that we sometimes miss the beauty of God's word and teachings...
I doubt very much whether anyone Jewish pronounces YHVH as anything other than Adonai.

Most professors of Hebrew have less formal training in Hebrew than the average 13 year old who has prepared for Bar Mitzvah!


You can attend Synagogues all over the world and you will NOT hear a vahv pronounced as a 'w' outside a college textbook, or classroom. I wonder why that might be!
 

JaumeJ

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Any Jew who is influenced by rabbinical teachings will not utter the name, Yahweh, however this prohibition is the product of the tradition of man, and it is to be found nowhere in the Word..

Correction, anyone influenced by rabbinical teachings may have this tendency.
 
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I don't know..ask the Apostle Paul and the other writers of the New Testament why they used Greek equivalents such as Theos and Iesous for the names of God and Jesus Christ.

The language God chose to inspire the New Testament, which is the greater revelation, was Greek, despite claims of some who say it was first written in Hebrew. I know God understands the reverence that we hold Him in, despite what language we say His name.

However, this is not a salvation issue so if someone feels convicted by the need to use Hebrew names, it is fine as long as they don't make it an issue of division. Some of my friends use Hebrew names. God knows their hearts whether they are using it to elevate themselves or their knowledge, or to claim that others are inferior to them in terms of loyalty. If they are, he will deal with them one way or another.

If they are divisive or condemning of other Christians, they would likely find some other criteria for salvation that others don't meet even if they are proven wrong on this. It's part of human nature to create divisions that way to elevate one's self as better than other brothers in Christ.

The mark of a Christian is love for one another and the fact that their faith is solely in Jesus Christ and the sufficiency of his sacrifice for salvation, not in the works of the law or anything else. I don't think God is looking to catch us up on technicalities to send us to eternal punishment like some paint a picture of him, including the fellowship I belonged to as a young person.

Would you call King James 'James?' Would you call the the President 'Barack?' I'm just trying to figure why do people disrespect Gods names by calling Him by his name like this. To my understanding even the True Jews knew this and didn't call him by his name like he was a simple commoner He was God Almighty, Jehovah the true Jews had enough sense to not call him like that. I've never called my father by his first name.
Not saying God doesn't hear us if we do this or that this is a sin just something I think about lol help me out
 
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I use the names or titles if you will of God in my prayer life. It helps me to focus on who I am talking to and gives my prayer a direction when I have a specific need. I look at it as a reminder of God's promises to his people. Not that he has forgotten but in respect of who he is. My strength, my provider, my healer, my comfort, my rock, my salvation, etc. I use ancient of days when I seek wisdom and so on. It helps me as I said to focus but also brings comfort to my spirit to know that I sought out the one and true living God of the bible.
 
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Imo, some people name drop Yahweh or Yeshua to sound important or more studied. I have always refered to God as the Father
So, if a person believes that God is Father, why would anyone dare to presume that it is alright to call a priest their father?
 

MarcR

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I just want to clarify that my comments are NOT primarily intended to address the propriety (or lack thereof) of addressing the Father by name.

My main point, which has not been addressed; is that the phonology of the Hebrew language makes Yahweh an impossible pronunciation.
 
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Personally, I think this recent intro to christian debate of what was God's real name in the Old Testament is a complete deception. We are told in the New Testament that there is NO OTHER NAME given among men by which we must be saved.
Whether we call Him The Christ or Messiah, Jesus, Yahushua, Yeshua, Joshua or Yah-is-Saviour or some other variation of the same name. The Saviour's name is the only one that should matter to Christians, coz as Jesus said, He came in His Father's Name.
 

JaumeJ

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We have the letters from the Hebrew, and we know Yahweh is the gerund form of the verb to be in the transitive sense of a verb. It does not matter if one's accent or pronounciation is the same as it was in the time of Moses, since the entire Hebrew languige has evolved much since that time.

If I say "once" or if I say "once't," it is understood by all familiar with both pronunciations. The latter is not written anywhere but it is the pronunciation of the word in some areas of the US. Other examples would be waller or wallow, pulled, pull't, and so on.

All the letters of Yahweh's name are provided, and from thence all we may do is pronounce with the accepted accent.. It is certain if one were to try all possible pron9unciations and hit on whatever it may have been at the time of Moses, the earth will not split, now will there be a blinding light, for believers have alrealdy seen the light

It all boils down to being a matter of the individual's sense of respect. When someone has known someone by the wrong name for a long time and learns what it really is, he is not going to continue calling him by the wrong name. At least I would think he would correct himself.
I just want to clarify that my comments are NOT primarily intended to address the propriety (or lack thereof) of addressing the Father by name.

My main point, which has not been addressed; is that the phonology of the Hebrew language makes Yahweh an impossible pronunciation.
 

JaumeJ

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Deception you say? I ask again this question, which should be the topic, Why do people call our Father any name but the original name? Almost, but not all, all languages have a name for Yahweh that has nothing to do with His revelation to Moses.

Yahweh is not our Father's name, it is more a description of Him. No man knows his name yet. This weill be revealed come the Kingdome.......Zeph. Rev. touches on this also.

The point I like to stress to all is that God, yes I use the word, God, is made know by way of the faith of Abraham via Israel, the Jews, and Jesus Christ. We were origianlly aught the faith of Abraham, the same faith we all receive once we call upn Jesus Christ. So, why are peopl so afraid to call God by any of the names He has given us, no matter how we pronoune it?

I believe the answer is quite simple. It is eitherr that deception you have indicated or it is simply hatred and jealousy of the Children of Israel and/or Jews. This is what I do believe. I am not ashamed of the Word of Jesus Christ,, or if yo prefer, Yeshua Machiach.

Personally, I think this recent intro to christian debate of what was God's real name in the Old Testament is a complete deception. We are told in the New Testament that there is NO OTHER NAME given among men by which we must be saved.
Whether we call Him The Christ or Messiah, Jesus, Yahushua, Yeshua, Joshua or Yah-is-Saviour or some other variation of the same name. The Saviour's name is the only one that should matter to Christians, coz as Jesus said, He came in His Father's Name.
 
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bondservant

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Personally I see nothing wrong with it, biblical I see no forbidding of it, prayerfully it gives me focus and more intimacy, spiritually it edifices me. I also remind him of his promises to me and us not that I think he forgets but to let him know that I know.