Why does cc allow hyper pauline heretics a platform????

[eternally-gratefull]

See if you can make your letters bigger. Great debate tactic

Paul is correcting Peter because he was being a cowardly hypocrite (verses 11-12) Peter was eating with Gentiles until some people from the Apostle James church showed up. Then Peter withdrew and all the other Jews withdrew with him just for sole purpose of
dissimulation (dissimulation=pretence of following the law.)

Your passage offers further proof of separation of circumcision from the uncircumcision.

Your arguments are weak and I can pick them apart just as I did with this one. But I have better things to do with my time. So you folks do what you do best and pile up the spam.

Hey withdrew due to fear.

Thats why paul CORRECTLY openly scolded peter for sin!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don`t find jokes that make light of sin or have an intent to hurt someone to be something to laugh at. I know God takes words seriously and I make an effort to do the same.

Do you? Think about that!

 

[Absolutely]

what I am not sure of is why are those who are hyper anti-Paul and claim to be filled with the Spirit refuse to hear what is being said. I don't know of anyone who seeks to nullify any portion of Scripture. I do hear people who when told that the Mosaic Covenant had done the job it was designed to do with believers. Once the Law has taken us to the crucified Christ it hands us over to the new teacher (Titus 2: 11- 15) Why do they refuse to hear that because the written Law has come to an end in the lives of believers we are now under the Higher form of the Law the Royal Law of Love an example of. The Lawmaker ascended on a hill and laid out for us in the Beatitudes the Law of the Kingdom. Because some people understand the Law prevents us not only for living and producing Fruit for Christ that we must not divorce the Law we must die to the Law (Ro. 7) in order to be wed to Christ. Some folks can't stand the teaching that believers have been made dead to the Law through the Law. That's correct part of God's purpose for His Law was to put believers dead to the written Law. Why do you refuse the written Law doing what God designed it to do. WHy? Paul wrote of himself as to the Law, perfect as Sauk. This was while he persecute Christ and His people. But that is what the Law opens the way for men to do, deceive themselves. Where is boasting stopped by the Law? No, it is only stopped by Grace. There is so much more this one verse doctrine is built on. But when you have people who seeing refuse to see and hearing refuse to hear there maybe a problem for having a good Christian discussion.

I applaud your zeal but Paul speaks of having zeal without knowledge. That has always been dangerous and is no less dangerous in our own time. I did not put an expiration date on the written Law, for tots in the faith to place us under the higher teacher, Grace, who teaches us to live godly lives in this time while we wait for the return of Christ. It gives us the power to say no and to live as we are called to live. The written Law on the other hand is the power sin uses to become utterly sinful (Ga. 3) who are two Covenants one is the written Law represented by Hagar and Ishmael representing the Covenant from Mount Sinai. Then we are shown the Covenant represented by Sarah is placed before us. We are told in no uncertain terms that those who are under the Mosaic Covenant are represented the son of the written Law, Ishmael, he will never share in the inheritance with Sarah and Isaac. The sons under the written Law will never share in the inheritance with those under the Abrahamic Covenant

I can be an adherant of Paul without being threatened by Jesus,peter,james and john.
The hyper paulines need those 4 persons diminished and into a different gospel.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

He`s posted several worldly remarks at me. He doesn`t seem to understand only harm he can do is to his own relationship with God.
Relaxing can lead one away from God, here`s something for worldly Christians that maybe should give you a little pause. There are times to be serious.


4 know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?

6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.

Practice what you preach.

Then MAYBE your words will have more action, and not just noise

 

[7seasrekeyed]

here you go

Galatian Conumdrums op started by mr 2 gospel himself and fully illustrated with denials of other people posting scripture

the reader will also be exposed to serious scripture twisting, denial of certain scripture altogether and sadly, names, insults and mocking, all in the name of the two gospel declaration of independence from all scripture that indicates the complete opposite

just the usual false gospel type of presentation

 

[kaylagrl]

He`s posted several worldly remarks at me. He doesn`t seem to understand only harm he can do is to his own relationship with God.
Relaxing can lead one away from God, here`s something for worldly Christians that maybe should give you a little pause. There are times to be serious.


4 know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?

6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.

Ahh, he's made other remarks. In this thread or another? Relaxing can lead you astray? So you're a modern day Puritan huh? Don't joke, don't laugh, don't relax. Sounds like you've got quite a legalistic doctrine going there...

Oh and your Scripture has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Relaxing has nothing to do with sin. Otherwise you just made God a sinner cause on the seventh day...yep, He RELAXED!! Try it, may make you a little less testy.

 

[RickStudies]

Do you? Think about that!

I thinkin lot`s of spam to ignore pilin up, no challenges, plenty of time to find some else to do. Bye.

Let the two mouthzillas roar.

 

[Absolutely]

Hey withdrew due to fear.

Thats why paul CORRECTLY openly scolded peter for sin!

...and the hyper paulines are saying peter preached a different gospel.
Why then was paul correcting him? Shouldnt Paul leave him be since there are 2 gospels and peters would just naturally involve error?

 

[RickStudies]

...and the hyper paulines are saying peter preached a different gospel.
Why then was paul correcting him? Shouldnt Paul leave him be since there are 2 gospels and peters would just naturally involve error?

Paul corrected him because he had one foot in each gospel. Your passage only strengthens my argument.

 

[Absolutely]

Ahh, he's made other remarks. In this thread or another? Relaxing can lead you astray? So you're a modern day Puritan huh? Don't joke, don't laugh, don't relax. Sounds like you've got quite a legalistic doctrine going there...

Oh and your Scripture has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Relaxing has nothing to do with sin. Otherwise you just made God a sinner cause on the seventh day...yep, He RELAXED!! Try it, may make you a little less testy.

The hyper pauline guy in our fellowship was that way. Very dogmatic and even said " i love to smoke around anyone not believing like me. They judge me from their legalistic gospel"
They divide the body into classes of "US" &"THEM"

Thank God i am a them

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Paul corrected him because he had one foot in each gospel. Your passage only strengthens my argument.

It does not say this

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I thinkin lot`s of spam to ignore pilin up, no challenges, plenty of time to find some else to do. Bye.

Let the two mouthzillas roar.

I guess its ok for you to accuse and attack, but how dare anyone say a word

Your hypocrisy just gets bigger

But its ok, you expose yourself more and more.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

oooooooooo

that's scary

said the same thing to me in the conundrum thread

while basically tossing word salad himself

I wonder if they have one of those big drums filled with scripure samples and spin and choose? or possibly 'My little bag of Tricks' for assorted occasions such as appearing superior in name only?

hard to say

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Paul corrected him because he had one foot in each gospel. Your passage only strengthens my argument.

see?

TWO gospels according to ricky and this is where Paul says there are 2 gospels according to ricky

now then

what else do you want? plain as day

when ricky's commentary comes out, you will understand it better

 

[kaylagrl]

The hyper pauline guy in our fellowship was that way. Very dogmatic and even said " i love to smoke around anyone not believing like me. They judge me from their legalistic gospel"
They divide the body into classes of "US" &"THEM"

Thank God i am a them

I posted this in the other thread. But if this is what Pauline Christianity is it's utter heresy and you're right, they shouldn't be allowed here at CC.

Jesus, a great teacher, considered himself to be the long-awaited Messiah for the Jews. He believed that God would overthrow Rome and bring His kingdom to earth. In preparation for this, Jesus taught a message of unconditional love, tolerance, and non-judgmental acceptance of everyone. Alas, Jesus’ mission of inaugurating a new earthly age failed when the Romans crucified him.

Jesus’ followers, believing that God had raised their rabbi from the dead, continued to meet in Jerusalem under the leadership of James, Jesus’ brother. Their intention was to await the still-coming kingdom and continue observing Jesus’ brand of enlightened Judaism. But along came Saul of Tarsus, who faked a conversion in order to infiltrate the church. Peter and James and others who had actually known Jesus were suspicious of Saul, who had never met Jesus.

Then Saul, who started calling himself “Paul,” had a stroke of genius. He artfully combined traditional Hebrew ideas with those of pagan Greek philosophy, creating a new religion that could appeal to both Jews and Gentiles. He began preaching that Jesus was actually God, that Jesus’ death was linked to the Jewish system of sacrifice, that one could be saved by simply believing, and that the Mosaic law was obsolete. Paul’s zealous missionary activity and persuasive writings took his new “gospel” around the Roman Empire. The Jerusalem Church, including Peter and James, disowned Paul as a heretic and cult leader.

After the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, the Jewish Church lost authority, but the Gentile Church founded by Paul increased its influence. One of Paul’s fervent followers wrote the book of Acts, which gave Paul legendary status with its glowing portrayal of him as the hero of the church. Later, four unknown writers gathered scraps of information about Jesus and wrote books they called “Matthew,” “Mark,” Luke,” and “John”—but Paul’s theology, already dominant in the church, tainted the writers’ perspective. Thus, Paul’s religion won out over Jesus’ religion.

In short, Paul was a charlatan, an evangelical huckster who succeeded in twisting Jesus’ message of love into something Jesus himself would never recognize. It was Paul, not Jesus, who originated the “Christianity” of today.



Commonly, those who hold to the above theory also believe the following:

1) Jesus was not divine. He never claimed to be God...

2) The Bible is not an inspired book and is riddled with contradictions. None of the Bible, except possibly the book of James, was written by anyone who knew Jesus. There are fragments of Jesus’ teachings in the Gospels, but it is difficult to discern what he really said.

3) Paul was never a Pharisee and was not highly educated. His “conversion” was either a personal hallucinogenic experience or an outright fraud. His claims to be an apostle were attempts to further his own authority in the church.

4) Pauline theological “inventions” include a) the deity of Jesus; b) salvation by grace through faith; c) salvation through the blood of Jesus; d) the sinless nature of Jesus; e) the concept of original sin; and f) the Holy Spirit. None of these “new doctrines” were accepted by Jesus’ true followers.

5) The Gnostic Gospels are closer to the truth about Jesus than are the traditional four Gospels of the Bible.


If anyone has issues with the underlined parts, Huston, we've got a problem. Heresy. Period.

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

^ that sounds like the gotquestions article I posted not long ago...


when the discussion centered around the DIFFERENCE btwn "Pauline Christianity" [FALSE DOCTRINE] and "Pauline Dispensationalism" [that "the Church which is His body" started in Acts 2 (Eph1:20-23 WHEN); as opposed to the LATER points-in-time in Acts like Acts 9,15,18,28 or the like, as "hyper-dispensationalists" have it]

 

[7seasrekeyed]

yikes

do you remember where you got that info from?

I'd be interested in learning more

whoever has the info please?

 

[Absolutely]

Paul corrected him because he had one foot in each gospel. Your passage only strengthens my argument.

You can't have it both ways. If Peters different Gospel was recognized by paul then what is paul doing trying to get Peter on the same page?

But first you have to ASSUME there are 2 gospels

 

[Absolutely]

yikes

do you remember where you got that info from?

I'd be interested in learning more

whoever has the info please?

The paulines are crafty.
Most here are not aware of the heresy they are embracing

 

[Hevosmies]

There's no disagreement between Paul and the rest of the apostles. If you were reading that something Paul said, and it contradicts something that Peter said, I think you are misunderstanding something.

Amen, this. Peter warned us and said unlearned folks are twisting what Paul is saying!