I think the best preacher would be the one who presents his own eschatological thoughts but that who admits that no one fully knows exactly how all of prophecy will play out because it is confusing to humans - partly because many verses go back and forth in time and partly because some things are sealed until the time of the end.
Why does Eschatology divide the Church into 3 camps
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That's going to depend on which seminary you choose.
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Amil, 1 Peter 4, the end is near.
Preterist, 2 Peter 3, the tribulation that 1 Peter 4 wrote about is over but the Lord didn't return.
Peter was martyred by Nero in 68 AD.
The Romans warred against Israel from 67 to 73 AD.
In the middle of the 7 year war, the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD.
Amil says this is the Abomination that Desolates that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15, referring to Daniel 9-12.
Premil says the Abomination that Desolates will happen 1290 days to 1335 days before the blessing of the resurrection of the just and unjust (Daniel 12:1-2) but premil also says the resurrection of the unjust occurs 1000 years after the resurrection of the just.
Those justified by believing in Jesus are resurrected when Jesus returns (the second coming).
Amil says that Premil is wrong and the 666 mark of the beast of Revelation 13 is symbolic not literal.
There is a postmillennial belief that Christian will make the world a better place then Jesus returns.
This belief feel out of favor with the sinking of the Titanic and world wars.
For your homework, compare 1 Thessalonians 4-5 with 2 Thessalonians 2 to see if you believe in amil/pretrib rapture or post trib resurrection. Then search for the phrase 'like a thief in the night.' The last place in the bible where this phrase is found is Revelation 16 before the final bowl of God's judgment is poured out.
There are 7 seals in Revelation which is the introduction/overview.
7 Trumpets then 7 bowls of judgment. Then the 1000 years of King Jesus who rules on earth.
The last chapters of Isaiah tell a bit about the 1000 years (the Messianic kingdom on earth) but the 1000 years are written only in Revelation 20 so amils take the view that Revelation is the history of the Church (true of Revelation 1-3, the 7 churches) or amils believe Revelation is a word of encouragement or it is written only to the literal 7 churches of Asia Minor.
Preterist, 2 Peter 3, the tribulation that 1 Peter 4 wrote about is over but the Lord didn't return.
Peter was martyred by Nero in 68 AD.
The Romans warred against Israel from 67 to 73 AD.
In the middle of the 7 year war, the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD.
Amil says this is the Abomination that Desolates that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15, referring to Daniel 9-12.
Premil says the Abomination that Desolates will happen 1290 days to 1335 days before the blessing of the resurrection of the just and unjust (Daniel 12:1-2) but premil also says the resurrection of the unjust occurs 1000 years after the resurrection of the just.
Those justified by believing in Jesus are resurrected when Jesus returns (the second coming).
Amil says that Premil is wrong and the 666 mark of the beast of Revelation 13 is symbolic not literal.
There is a postmillennial belief that Christian will make the world a better place then Jesus returns.
This belief feel out of favor with the sinking of the Titanic and world wars.
For your homework, compare 1 Thessalonians 4-5 with 2 Thessalonians 2 to see if you believe in amil/pretrib rapture or post trib resurrection. Then search for the phrase 'like a thief in the night.' The last place in the bible where this phrase is found is Revelation 16 before the final bowl of God's judgment is poured out.
There are 7 seals in Revelation which is the introduction/overview.
7 Trumpets then 7 bowls of judgment. Then the 1000 years of King Jesus who rules on earth.
The last chapters of Isaiah tell a bit about the 1000 years (the Messianic kingdom on earth) but the 1000 years are written only in Revelation 20 so amils take the view that Revelation is the history of the Church (true of Revelation 1-3, the 7 churches) or amils believe Revelation is a word of encouragement or it is written only to the literal 7 churches of Asia Minor.
Not likely. Seminaries are for producing preachers who regurgitate the theology they have been taught, and are generally denomination-oriented. So if you disagree, you must simply walk away.
Speaking of seminaries, they have their roots in the Scholasticism of the Roman Catholic Church during the Middle Ages. When the Reformers broke away from the RCC, they did not abandon all their baggage. And later on the evangelical and fundamentalist churches all copied them, and made academic achievements the criteria for qualification to the ministry. Today evangelical churches generally demand a Master of Divinity degree for anyone to apply for a pastoral position.
But when you look at the New Testament churches, they were mini-seminaries, where faithful elders were to teach other faithful men, who would then continue to hold on to sound doctrine, and continue teaching others.
King James Bible (2 Tim 2:2)
And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.
Men were not *imported* into the NT churches, and the apostles and their companions would simply keep moving on after teaching the churches God's truth.
Speaking of seminaries, they have their roots in the Scholasticism of the Roman Catholic Church during the Middle Ages. When the Reformers broke away from the RCC, they did not abandon all their baggage. And later on the evangelical and fundamentalist churches all copied them, and made academic achievements the criteria for qualification to the ministry. Today evangelical churches generally demand a Master of Divinity degree for anyone to apply for a pastoral position.
But when you look at the New Testament churches, they were mini-seminaries, where faithful elders were to teach other faithful men, who would then continue to hold on to sound doctrine, and continue teaching others.
King James Bible (2 Tim 2:2)
And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.
Men were not *imported* into the NT churches, and the apostles and their companions would simply keep moving on after teaching the churches God's truth.
I'm not sure I would classify what the apostle said there as prophecy exactly, now that you pointed out to me what you did. He said it's appointed to a man to die and then the judgement. I'd look at it more as proof against any sort of reincarnation rather than prophecy. I shouldn't have called it prophecy, I don't think.
In fact he just seems to be comparing how men only die once to how Christ only had to suffer once for all sin. I don't consider it prophecy. I learned something with your help.
In fact he just seems to be comparing how men only die once to how Christ only had to suffer once for all sin. I don't consider it prophecy. I learned something with your help.
Thanks I will add my 2 cents. looking at the foundation of parable as to the purpose
Matthew 13:34All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
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Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: no understanding from God
Prophecy which is simply the word of God it, as it works in us uses various manners of prophecy such as parables or tongues (God bringing his interpretation, prophecy) in other language other them the Hebrew alone. The New testament the first example mostly in Greek
Because the time of reformation had come, God with stammering (mocking lips)as a outward sign against those whp refused to hear prophecy was now bringing's new revelation in all the languages of the word. Male and female alike as prophets prophesying prophecy (the word of God).
Without parables the signified language that uses the things seen the temporal to give us the spiritual understanding of that parable not seen the eternal hid from natural man who must try and make some literal sense of that the understanding. When parables are misunderstood the flesh of man looks to other flesh as in who is the greastest .Parables have re pourpose
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.2 Cor. 4:18
Parables use symbolism like in the ceremonial laws. they were used to preach the suffering of Christ beforehand and the glory of the cross that followed.
The prophecy (God's interpretation) in respect to parables cannot be taken literally. A false prophet is one who adds or subtracts from the intertation of God (Prophesy)
Yes those would be considered historical true parables. Egypt and the remove of the bonds of the Pharaoh . Is a picture of salvation (gospel) but remain historically accurate
Gold right from the garden is used to represent the believer that have been refined by the purifying word of God .The lion the tribe of Judah the tribe of our redeemer who frees us from the slavery of the god of this world.
I think you might be confusing prophecy with fotune telling. Perophecy is simply the word of God, it can speak of the future or the events in the past
The whole bible is the book of prophecy or book of the law (no philosophical theories of men
Parables are used in the rendering of the ten commandment in respect to the Sabbath as ceremonial law (not a moral law ) the two different renderings (Exodus and Deuteronomy) use different kinds of parable that speak of the one rest a Christian as to its spiritual meaning hid from natural man that do it literally .
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I'm not sure I would classify what the apostle said there as prophecy exactly, now that you pointed out to me what you did. He said it's appointed to a man to die and then the judgement. I'd look at it more as proof against any sort of reincarnation rather than prophecy. I shouldn't have called it prophecy, I don't think.
In fact he just seems to be comparing how men only die once to how Christ only had to suffer once for all sin. I don't consider it prophecy. I learned something with your help.
In fact he just seems to be comparing how men only die once to how Christ only had to suffer once for all sin. I don't consider it prophecy. I learned something with your help.
That's prophesy.
