Why does the bible say that a woman should wear a head covering?

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p_rehbein

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Happy to see you again. Yeah, I know, the old format sucks. We have been thinking about you lately and Darlene sent you a card to your new address. Despite the changes, the peeps that remain are still the same.
Don't yet know how to send a PM, but I hope she had the right address........ :)
Unless it hasn't arrived yet.......will be looking for it though

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pjharrison

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Where did you come up with this nonsense?

For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.

The head covering is the symbol of the husband's authority (translated as "power") over his wife. And angels observe whether Christian women are in submission to their husbands (and therefore obedient to God) through this symbol.

So what is "this cause" (or this reason)?

For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

This is explained in the next verse. Adam was a direct creation of God, and was made in the image and likeness of God. But the woman (Eve) was taken as a rib about the man, and then formed into a woman.

For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
Why would the angels be watching to see if the wives are submissive to their husbands; what are the angels going to do if their not. Nothing. Adam didn't cover Eve. That why we are in the condition that we are in now. He could have said no, we will not disobey God. He didn't. He went along with Eve. That's why he was held accountable. He was to cover her. That is the authority on her head. Which angel deceived her? It wasn't one of Gods Holy angels.
 

p_rehbein

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As I recall, at the end of that particular group of Scriptures, Paul says the reason woman was given her hair (long) was to be a covering for her head........right? Why he didn't think they should cut their hair?
 
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pjharrison

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If you keep reading and get the Bibles Revelation about head coverings in context of that passage you will get the revelation that long hair is a covering that God provides for woman.. That long hair satisfies the need for a covering for woman..

1 Corinthians 11: KJV
13 "Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? {14} Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? {15} But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering."
Didn't you get were it said," doth not even nature itself teach you" which means in the natural world. So that should tell you that it is talking about the spiritual world. A spiritual covering which comes from the husband. He is suppose to help her keep from being deceived, and making decision she will regret. If he is not a Godly man he will be in no condition to help anyone, because he will be deceived as well.
 
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pjharrison

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Many people have different understandings of the scriptures. 1 Corinthians 11:14-15 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?
See where is says does not the nature of things teach you.
It's speaking of the natural world. That should tell you that Paul is speaking of the spiritual world.
 
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Didn't you get were it said," doth not even nature itself teach you" which means in the natural world. So that should tell you that it is talking about the spiritual world. A spiritual covering which comes from the husband. He is suppose to help her keep from being deceived, and making decision she will regret. If he is not a Godly man he will be in no condition to help anyone, because he will be deceived as well.
That's is a good question though I don't quite see the natural world as being a reference to the spiritual world, indeed satan was cast into the natural world though he has one foot in and one foot out like one foot in the grave and the other on a banana slip, meaning there will be no winning in his percieved view of his perception of the spiritual world his quite delusional. he thinks he can win but he is blinded for sure.
 
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pjharrison

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As I recall, at the end of that particular group of Scriptures, Paul says the reason woman was given her hair (long) was to be a covering for her head........right? Why he didn't think they should cut their hair?
1 Corinthians 11:14-15 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?
Do you see where it says ( Does not the very nature of things teach. ) That should tell you that The hair is about the Natural world. But Paul is speaking about the spiritual world.
 
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pjharrison

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As I recall, at the end of that particular group of Scriptures, Paul says the reason woman was given her hair (long) was to be a covering for her head........right? Why he didn't think they should cut their hair?
1 Corinthians 11:14-15, 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?
The hair is about the natural world. See the word nature. Paul is speaking about the spiritual.
 
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1 Corinthians 11: 4 - 5 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved.
1Co 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
1Co 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
1Co 11:16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

Some people think that the covering is a cloth covering, but the Bible says it is her hair.

Some people will say legalism, do not tell us how to have our hair, but you cannot ignore what God said concerning the hair of a man and a woman.

And that is because God wants a distinction between a man and a woman, and if a man has long hair it is a shame to him and he puts himself in the place of a woman, and if a woman has short hair it puts herself in the place of a man.

If a woman has 2 feet of hair and cuts it an inch it is the same as if she was shaven and puts herself in the place of a man.

1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

Jesus came in the image of God so He would of had short hair, and some people might say, Samson had long hair and was dedicated to God, but Samson was not in the image of God, but only according to the flesh, and the image of God is an innocent nature in flesh, which did not happen until Jesus came and to those who receive the Spirit and hate sin.
 
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Well i think Paul was teaching about some of the Old Testament practices that was going on in those days, folks were asking questions about should they or should they not be doing such things as like today and I think he goes on and says there's no such law in the church "Christ congregation" but if one was trying to keep the old traditions then that is something that goes with it. As I said scriptures says the woman's hair is her covering so a woman wouldn't have to know when to cover her head unless that woman cut her hair or shaved her head then of coarse how would that woman know when to do it. Well that would be a challenge to know when for sure like keeping all the laws of of OT.

Now if it was me I'd be cautious about saying I learnt it through the Holy Spirit though it is not written in scripture IMO that would be a good time to put the brakes on and review that theory because the scriptures does say satan can and will percieve to people as being a angel of light. satan was able to tempt Jesus so what is he able do to the average person. Also if satan can percieve as being a angel of light then that surely wouldn't be easily to recognize that everytime, at times it may be easy to recognize a false spirit speaking in ones ear and at other times hard to recognize that. surely the first step of knowing that would be does it line up with scripture in anyway.
Its was a new testament ordinance because of time or reformation had come .The same period we are still in. No outward King used to represent the King of kings not seen. The sinful flesh of a Jews no longer was needed to represent God not seen. The woman previously not part of the ceremonial law like the gentiles had a wall or separate or different courts that prohibited them from being part and participating in that parable .When the veil was rent signifying the Son of man did come. The woman and the gentiles had become a part of the representative work of the Holy Spirit. The covering of a woman's hair as the glory she was given. She was not being left without a representative glory of her own . The only glory that was to be seen was the unseen glory of God revealed by faith (not seen by the human eye)but through the ceremonial law .
 
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pjharrison

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That's is a good question though I don't quite see the natural world as being a reference to the spiritual world, indeed satan was cast into the natural world though he has one foot in and one foot out like one foot in the grave and the other on a banana slip, meaning there will be no winning in his percieved view of his perception of the spiritual world his quithey te delusional. he thinks he can win but he is blinded for sure.
Let me show what it is really saying; 1 Corinthians 11:14-15, 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?
What he is really saying is don't you even understand that in the natural world, long hair is given to the woman for her glory. So the man is given for authority on her head which is for her glory. He can help her not to make so many bad decisions. But he must be a Godly man, because if he isn't, they will both be deceived. Unless he does as Adam did and went along and did not cover Eve. Adam knew the truth, but he didn't go against it.
 
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Its was a new testament ordinance because of time or reformation had come .The same period we are still in. No outward King used to represent the King of kings not seen. The sinful flesh of a Jews no longer was needed to represent God not seen. The woman previously not part of the ceremonial law like the gentiles had a wall or separate or different courts that prohibited them from being part and participating in that parable .When the veil was rent signifying the Son of man did come. The woman and the gentiles had become a part of the representative work of the Holy Spirit. The covering of a woman's hair as the glory she was given. She was not being left without a representative glory of her own . The only glory that was to be seen was the unseen glory of God revealed by faith (not seen by the human eye)but through the ceremonial law .
Well if a woman wants to follow the ceremonial laws, than they all apply to them even today, so when that time of the month comes she shall be put out back in a shed or what ever for a week. there are many laws and one can't pick and choose which one to follow they follow them all or else. good luck.
 
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pjharrison

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1Co 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
1Co 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
1Co 11:16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

Some people think that the covering is a cloth covering, but the Bible says it is her hair.

Some people will say legalism, do not tell us how to have our hair, but you cannot ignore what God said concerning the hair of a man and a woman.

And that is because God wants a distinction between a man and a woman, and if a man has long hair it is a shame to him and he puts himself in the place of a woman, and if a woman has short hair it puts herself in the place of a man.

If a woman has 2 feet of hair and cuts it an inch it is the same as if she was shaven and puts herself in the place of a man.

1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

Jesus came in the image of God so He would of had short hair, and some people might say, Samson had long hair and was dedicated to God, but Samson was not in the image of God, but only according to the flesh, and the image of God is an innocent nature in flesh, which did not happen until Jesus came and to those who receive the Spirit and hate sin.
What Paul is really saying is don't you even understand that in the natural world, long hair is given to the woman for her glory. So the man is given for authority on her head which is for her glory. He can help her not to make so many bad decisions. But he must be a Godly man, because if he isn't, they will both be deceived. Unless he does as Adam did and went along and did not cover Eve. Adam knew the truth, but he didn't go against it.
 
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1 Corinthians 11:14-15, 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?
The hair is about the natural world. See the word nature. Paul is speaking about the spiritual.

Natural had to do with what most societies that were accustomed to. Woman in general always had longer hair. It not about the length of hair but hair used to represent the unseen glory of God . If she did not cover her representative glory not being left witout one of her own she should shave it off to show her shame .No glorying in the things of the flesh .
 
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pjharrison

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Natural had to do with what most societies that were accustomed to. Woman in general always had longer hair. It not about the length of hair but hair used to represent the unseen glory of God . If she did not cover her representative glory not being left witout one of her own she should shave it off to show her shame .No glorying in the things of the flesh .
What he is really saying is don't you even understand that in the natural world, long hair is given to the woman for her glory. So the man is given for authority on her head which is for her glory. He can help her not to make so many bad decisions. But he must be a Godly man, because if he isn't, they will both be deceived. Unless he does as Adam did and went along and did not cover Eve. Adam knew the truth, but he didn't go against it.
 
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Let me show what it is really saying; 1 Corinthians 11:14-15, 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory?
What he is really saying is don't you even understand that in the natural world, long hair is given to the woman for her glory. So the man is given for authority on her head which is for her glory. He can help her not to make so many bad decisions. But he must be a Godly man, because if he isn't, they will both be deceived. Unless he does as Adam did and went along and did not cover Eve. Adam knew the truth, but he didn't go against it.
I do understand your view and I will respect your view, but no mam I don't agree with such things, my view is quite different than yours. surely this would be just a endless debate, you stand by your opinion as I as well. I'll move along to another topic for now.
 

Dino246

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This thread is a deep foray into the bo
Its was a new testament ordinance because of time or reformation had come .The same period we are still in. No outward King used to represent the King of kings not seen. The sinful flesh of a Jews no longer was needed to represent God not seen. The woman previously not part of the ceremonial law like the gentiles had a wall or separate or different courts that prohibited them from being part and participating in that parable .When the veil was rent signifying the Son of man did come. The woman and the gentiles had become a part of the representative work of the Holy Spirit. The covering of a woman's hair as the glory she was given. She was not being left without a representative glory of her own . The only glory that was to be seen was the unseen glory of God revealed by faith (not seen by the human eye)but through the ceremonial law .
Garee, respectfully, your grammar and sentence structure are terrible. Is English a second language for you, or, are you using a translator?
 
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pjharrison

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I do understand your view and I will respect your view, but no mam I don't agree with such things, my view is quite different than yours.
14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him,
What does that say to you?
 
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Well if a woman wants to follow the ceremonial laws, than they all apply to them even today, so when that time of the month comes she shall be put out back in a shed or what ever for a week. there are many laws and one can't pick and choose which one the follow they follow them all or else.
That ceremonial law "preserving the pure seed seed of Christ" signified by the court of the woman not allowed to participate in the ceremonies was fulfilled at the renting of the veil signifying the seed had come, the genealogy of the spiritual seed as the generation or new born again beginning had come. All of the old testament ceremonial laws save baptism to represent a kingdom of priest (the believer) had ben fulfilled at his coming .

Many discredit the results of the time of reformation as if it did not come

The Holy Ghost this signifying(using signs as shadows ), that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: Which was a figure(parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.Hebrew9: 8-10

The new one had come... the covering the representative glory of a woman and uncovering the glory of Christ represented by men and the eating of bread, drinking of the blood of grapes as one law. pointing ahead as a shadow to the wedding supper and the consummation our new incorruptible bodies ,that will be neither male nor female, Jew nor Gentile

The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Mathew 1:1