Why does the Law cause contention among professing Christians?

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I consider you as a good friend, but I beg to differ. Grace and the law, or covenants of the Old Testament do mix. Just have to look at it in the Spirit.

Exodus 34:9-10 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And he said, If now I have found grace in thy sight, O Lord, let my Lord, I pray thee, go among us; for it is a stiffnecked people; and pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for thine inheritance.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.

Through grace we are no longer under the law of condemnation, but the one who gave both the law, and grace doesn't change. The canal man cannot mix with the law, but the spiritual man can.

Romans 8:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

The law causes schism between God and the carnal man, but not the Spiritual man.

Romans 7:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

1 Corinthians 2:13-14 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 

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I consider you as a good friend, but I beg to differ. Grace and the law, or covenants of the Old Testament do mix. Just have to look at it in the Spirit.

Exodus 34:9-10 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And he said, If now I have found grace in thy sight, O Lord, let my Lord, I pray thee, go among us; for it is a stiffnecked people; and pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for thine inheritance.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And he said, Behold, I make a covenant: before all thy people I will do marvels, such as have not been done in all the earth, nor in any nation: and all the people among which thou art shall see the work of the LORD: for it is a terrible thing that I will do with thee.

Through grace we are no longer under the law of condemnation, but the one who gave both the law, and grace doesn't change. The canal man cannot mix with the law, but the spiritual man can.

Romans 8:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

The law causes schism between God and the carnal man, but not the Spiritual man.

Romans 7:14 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

1 Corinthians 2:13-14 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I do thank God for you too and have learned much from you. I have learned through the Law my inability and need for God in to be perfect, and can't ever of me and my own flesh even in mixing grace and Law, so I came to the end of the energy of me and died with Christ in the flesh with Christ at the cross of Christ
[h=3]Philippians 3:10-11[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Now I have given up everything else—I have found it to be the only way to really know Christ and to experience the mighty power that brought him back to life again, and to find out what it means to suffer and to die with him. [SUP]11 [/SUP]So whatever it takes, I will be one who lives in the fresh newness of life of those who are alive from the dead

I understand what you say, I do not see it as it was given in the Spirit since it was for the express purpose to show us our inability to be perfect ever since Adam and Eve ate from that tree. no one can obey the Law let alone the two laws of love, not possible only God can and did through Son for us/
Romans 5:6

When we were utterly helpless, with no way of escape, Christ came at just the right time and died for us sinners who had no use for him.
Romans 5:14 So when their bodies died it was not for their own sins since they themselves had never disobeyed God’s special law against eating the forbidden fruit, as Adam had. What a contrast between Adam and Christ who was yet to come!
Romans 7:4 Your “husband,” your master, used to be the Jewish law; but you “died,” as it were, with Christ on the cross; and since you are “dead,” you are no longer “married to the law,” and it has no more control over you. Then you came back to life again when Christ did and are a new person. And now you are “married,” so to speak, to the one who rose from the dead, so that you can produce good fruit, that is, good deeds for God.
Romans 8:34 Who then will condemn us? Will Christ? No! For he is the one who died for us and came back to life again for us and is sitting at the place of highest honor next to God, pleading for us there in heaven.
Romans 8:39 or where we are—high above the sky, or in the deepest ocean—nothing will ever be able to separate us from the love of God demonstrated by our Lord Jesus Christ when he died for us.
Romans 10:3 For they don’t understand that Christ has died to make them right with God. Instead they are trying to make themselves good enough to gain God’s favor by keeping the Jewish laws and customs, but that is not God’s way of salvation.
Romans 14:9 Christ died and rose again for this very purpose, so that he can be our Lord both while we live and when we die.
1 Corinthians 15:3 I passed on to you right from the first what had been told to me, that Christ died for our sins just as the Scriptures said he would,
Colossians 2:12 For in baptism you see how your old, evil nature died with him and was buried with him; and then you came up out of death with him into a new life because you trusted the Word of the mighty God who raised Christ from the dead.
Hebrews 9:15 Christ came with this new agreement so that all who are invited may come and have forever all the wonders God has promised them. For Christ died to rescue them from the penalty of the sins they had committed while still under that old system.
Hebrews 9:28 so also Christ died only once as an offering for the sins of many people; and he will come again, but not to deal again with our sins. This time he will come bringing salvation to all those who are eagerly and patiently waiting for him.
1 Peter 3:18 Christ also suffered. He died once for the sins of all us guilty sinners although he himself was innocent of any sin at any time, that he might bring us safely home to God. But though his body died, his spirit lived on,


We are to live on here and now right by what? Spirit of God, or flesh of self trying to obey Law that flesh can not do, and if we are under Law and Christ then we need to suffer a witch to die. Better not make one mistake under Law not one.
Spirit of the Law is Love, God's type best described in 1 Cor. 13:4-13, and the verses 1-3 show human effort that is nothing. Yet does do good under Law. makes mistakes, but you know we are forgiven and thus take advantage of this forgiveness that God did for us, through Christ the Son. 1 john 2:1 - 12

Under Law as in trying to please me, another, self and or God is the curse for no flesh can be perfect in ad of itself. The Law Is Holy, yet I was born under sin after the similitude of Adam and Eve, not my fault, and God who has Mercy has given this to me and all that believe God do as God leads, just as Christ was led by God through the Holy Ghost of promise.
Done through belief alone, God doing it through me. "I" am dead with Christ at the death of Christ to flesh, and brought back to life new life in the Spirit of God, by God a free gift that I could never earn and if I try to earn it by preforming Law especially after receiving this gift, "I" then make the free gift void For a gift is a gift, no earning a gift.

all in love to you as I see from my perspective after asking God to see from God's perspective. I was shown
Colossians 1:22 in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

I can not find anyway to improve on the above fact, can you?