Why I believe sin is a choice.

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InNeedOfHelp

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Guojing said:
For the non-believer, do you think he will have that choice too?
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Non-believers do have the choices presented to them the same as Believers do. However, the Non-believer is destined to hell unless a true Salvation experience occurs in his/her life.
 
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Guojing said:
Actually, its the noun that leads to the verb and not vice versa.

We are not sinners (noun) because we sinned (verb), we sinned because we are sinners. This causality is the foundation of Paul's exposition of the sin problem in the book of Romans.

He explained it especially carefully in Romans 5:12-19: We are sinners because of Adam's sin (verb: his disobedience in the Garden of Eden).

Jesus was different because he did not inherit the sinner's blood from Adam like all of us did. His blood came directly from his Father, that is why it necessitated the virgin birth. He could not have sinned (verb) because he did not possess the sinful nature (noun) that all of us inherited from Adam as a "free gift".

When Jesus died on the cross, he took our sinful nature (noun) and not our sinful actions (verb). It was our sinful nature that separated us from God. When Paul said we have died to sin, it is the nature he was referring to, and not the verb.
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I like your heart, but not your theology! :) You got a few things right, but some other stuff so mixed up, and I am not going to attempt to untie the knots. (Plus, I perceive you don't wish me to untie them - you think I am the one with the mix-up!)

So, I will wish you God's blessing . . .
 
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Guojing

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Chester said:
I like your heart, but not your theology! :) You got a few things right, but some other stuff so mixed up, and I am not going to attempt to untie the knots. (Plus, I perceive you don't wish me to untie them - you think I am the one with the mix-up!)

So, I will wish you God's blessing . . .
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Thanks, its okay. I took quite a few years to really understand what I just wrote too, had to repent (change my mind).

But you don't need to understand the impeccability of Christ, to be a Christian for sure, see you in heaven. :)
 
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Guojing

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InNeedOfHelp said:
Non-believers do have the choices presented to them the same as Believers do. However, the Non-believer is destined to hell unless a true Salvation experience occurs in his/her life.
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So do you agree that understanding the difference between noun and verb, in the context of sin, is very useful in this area? :)
 
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