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slight correction for you here:
Exo 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
you highlighted this part: "words of the covenant, the ten commandments." and thus mislead. what you should have done is highlight this to be accurate:
"And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."
Why? because you highlight only looks at the 10 commandments but the passage is talking about the 10 commandments on stone. the ones that were outside of people and in the ark in the most Holy place. This is important.
The old covenant is not simply the 10 commandments its the 10 commandments on stone. By leaving stone out you change what the Old covenant is.
The commandments themselves are eternal spoken and written by God. The stone on which they were written was temporary.
For the new covenant was not new commandments but new writing in a new place.
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
God would take those same laws and write them on our hearts no longer on stone but the tables of the heart.
I mean really think about this for a second.
Do you think that God said ok we have reached the new covenant now. so we don't have to obey thou shalt not kill. but lets reinstate it. No of course not, the commandment continued but its placing changed.
It was the law on stone that killed because a law on stone can not save me or change me or anything it can only condemn me or show me to be ok, but all have sinned and fall short so it only condemned until it was place in my heart by Jesus what does it mean to be place in the heart?
To receive a new heart that obeys as it is written:
Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
When God puts them in our hearts by His grace he transforms us from disobedient to obedient children of the most High.
The Sabbath does not kill that is silly, nor does not taking the name of God in vain or any of the commandments. But the ones on stone did cause they did not change us but rather showed us that we were already dead as it is written:
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
we were already dead in trespasses before the law came but the law pointed that out as it is written:
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
it was added because we were already dead and by knowing it we would seek a savior. but make note the trespasses or transgression preceded the law the law only made them plain. Thus all these things were already wrong and sin and already brought death. The law on stone changed nothing but made it plain that this was the case.
But the promise in Christ was that when He would come that same law would be written on the heart and thus bring life. This is the miracle power of God through Christ Jesus our Lord. that those who were dead in trespasses are made alive in Christ as it is written:
Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
notice the word, "were" past tense, that word refers not to just the word "dead" but "dead in trespasses and sins" So that means no longer are we dead in trespasses and sins. the law is now on the heart and we by Gods power are able to obey.
as it is written:
Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
notice many were made sinners by one mans disobedience. This is literal by this man Adam we literally became sinners and literally sinned. so also by the one man Jesus, who obeyed we are literally made righteous as it is written:
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
Hope that helps blessings.
Exo 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
you highlighted this part: "words of the covenant, the ten commandments." and thus mislead. what you should have done is highlight this to be accurate:
"And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."
Why? because you highlight only looks at the 10 commandments but the passage is talking about the 10 commandments on stone. the ones that were outside of people and in the ark in the most Holy place. This is important.
The old covenant is not simply the 10 commandments its the 10 commandments on stone. By leaving stone out you change what the Old covenant is.
The commandments themselves are eternal spoken and written by God. The stone on which they were written was temporary.
For the new covenant was not new commandments but new writing in a new place.
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
God would take those same laws and write them on our hearts no longer on stone but the tables of the heart.
I mean really think about this for a second.
Do you think that God said ok we have reached the new covenant now. so we don't have to obey thou shalt not kill. but lets reinstate it. No of course not, the commandment continued but its placing changed.
It was the law on stone that killed because a law on stone can not save me or change me or anything it can only condemn me or show me to be ok, but all have sinned and fall short so it only condemned until it was place in my heart by Jesus what does it mean to be place in the heart?
To receive a new heart that obeys as it is written:
Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
When God puts them in our hearts by His grace he transforms us from disobedient to obedient children of the most High.
The Sabbath does not kill that is silly, nor does not taking the name of God in vain or any of the commandments. But the ones on stone did cause they did not change us but rather showed us that we were already dead as it is written:
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
we were already dead in trespasses before the law came but the law pointed that out as it is written:
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
it was added because we were already dead and by knowing it we would seek a savior. but make note the trespasses or transgression preceded the law the law only made them plain. Thus all these things were already wrong and sin and already brought death. The law on stone changed nothing but made it plain that this was the case.
But the promise in Christ was that when He would come that same law would be written on the heart and thus bring life. This is the miracle power of God through Christ Jesus our Lord. that those who were dead in trespasses are made alive in Christ as it is written:
Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
notice the word, "were" past tense, that word refers not to just the word "dead" but "dead in trespasses and sins" So that means no longer are we dead in trespasses and sins. the law is now on the heart and we by Gods power are able to obey.
as it is written:
Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
notice many were made sinners by one mans disobedience. This is literal by this man Adam we literally became sinners and literally sinned. so also by the one man Jesus, who obeyed we are literally made righteous as it is written:
1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jn 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
1Jn 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
Hope that helps blessings.
Even though I may not keep the Sabbath perfectly, I'm still keeping it. And I do believe God is pleased when we do something unto Him, even if it's not done perfectly.
But if we hold a different standard than that, we'll all find ourselves in trouble.
“"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.”
**John *14:15 *NASB
So unless we're keeping Jesus' commandments perfectly, we're not really keeping them.
So then by your definition, God is not pleased.
But if we hold a different standard than that, we'll all find ourselves in trouble.
“"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.”
**John *14:15 *NASB
So unless we're keeping Jesus' commandments perfectly, we're not really keeping them.
So then by your definition, God is not pleased.
It is the converse of your point:
So again short answer, you don't command people to do what they are already doing.
Your quite comprehensive reply does deserve a more thorough answer though. I apologise. I'll give it my attention when time permits. I have work to do right now.
One thing perhaps (if you could restrict yourself to bite-sized answers replying to them will be easier): Paul was apostle to the Gentiles. Why would he not have stressed the importance of keeping the Sabbath to people for whom the law of Moses was "the dividing wall of hostility" separating them from the Jews if it is as crucial as you say?
So again short answer, you don't command people to do what they are already doing.
Your quite comprehensive reply does deserve a more thorough answer though. I apologise. I'll give it my attention when time permits. I have work to do right now.
One thing perhaps (if you could restrict yourself to bite-sized answers replying to them will be easier): Paul was apostle to the Gentiles. Why would he not have stressed the importance of keeping the Sabbath to people for whom the law of Moses was "the dividing wall of hostility" separating them from the Jews if it is as crucial as you say?
Sorry for the length and that is me being short and quick. I like details. but I will try to keep it shorter from now on for you, I understand your point cause it can be hard to answer when there seems to be so much. lol I will probably be long though so I will bold the point so it is easier.
The New Testament like the Old is inspired by The Holy Spirit but we do not have every word taught or thing done recorded as is evidenced by scripture such as:
Joh 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
and one more:
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
my point there is simple not everything was recorded so we have to gain our understanding form what is seen and done.
Now as to why Paul did not stress the Sabbath for the Gentiles. Well simply how do you know he did not? silence in a book that records only snippets of events does not prove a point. So lets look at what we do know.
Acts 15 is a good place that gives a hint:
The whole issue is what should be put on Gentiles because the Pharisees are pushing circumcision on them,
Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Now many think that the written law is being referred to here, and they are partially right but some study into the time will soon reveal that the real issue here is the traditions of the Elders which were being pushed onto the Gentiles. They held circumcision higher than all the law in that one could not be saved even if they do everything right and love God unless they are circumcised. as it is written:
Act 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
This was the issue being discussed, now you might say well the written law did say to be circumcised. and you are right but further down we see that the burden is the traditions of the elders:
Act 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
now I don't know how much study you have done in the written law but these things are actually part of the oral law which was added. now it is important to know that there is some overlap because the oral law was based on the written but not always the same. Jesus called the traditions of the Pharisees a yoke that they forced others to carry.
Act 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Grace saves us as the apostles give evidence to not the works of circumcision as the Pharisees are saying. Ps this is not the written law that is being referred to as it is written:
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
notice that they expected that they would learn the law in the synagogues on the Sabbath as it was read every Sabbath in every city. The reason for these extras that they did decide to add on, the reason is simple they all have connection to Idolatry in which The felt should be added or burdened with so as to not be a stumbling clock to Jews and to show their complete separation from Idol worship which was common in Gentile life.
Later Paul who agreed to this shows that eating meat offered to Idols is nothing and ok but don't do it if it will be a stumbling block.
The point being that it was expected that Gentiles who accept Jesus would learn the law in the synagogue on the Sabbath.
The assumption of your question is that the gentiles would take issue with the 7th day Sabbath. But that is not verifiable.
Gentiles were indeed coming to the synagogues on the Sabbath as recorded and they knew it that is why they said it in Acts 15:
Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
My point is this, there is no sense given in scripture that the 7th day Sabbath was an issue for Jew or Gentile. Not until some time later when Paul speaks on the Sabbath in Hebrews. But even then knowing the context I am not sure if it was an issue or Paul is simply speaking about future events and issues on the Sabbath that are in Prophecy and seen in the Sanctuary shadow.
The New Testament like the Old is inspired by The Holy Spirit but we do not have every word taught or thing done recorded as is evidenced by scripture such as:
Joh 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
and one more:
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
my point there is simple not everything was recorded so we have to gain our understanding form what is seen and done.
Now as to why Paul did not stress the Sabbath for the Gentiles. Well simply how do you know he did not? silence in a book that records only snippets of events does not prove a point. So lets look at what we do know.
Acts 15 is a good place that gives a hint:
The whole issue is what should be put on Gentiles because the Pharisees are pushing circumcision on them,
Act 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
Now many think that the written law is being referred to here, and they are partially right but some study into the time will soon reveal that the real issue here is the traditions of the Elders which were being pushed onto the Gentiles. They held circumcision higher than all the law in that one could not be saved even if they do everything right and love God unless they are circumcised. as it is written:
Act 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
This was the issue being discussed, now you might say well the written law did say to be circumcised. and you are right but further down we see that the burden is the traditions of the elders:
Act 15:19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
now I don't know how much study you have done in the written law but these things are actually part of the oral law which was added. now it is important to know that there is some overlap because the oral law was based on the written but not always the same. Jesus called the traditions of the Pharisees a yoke that they forced others to carry.
Act 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Grace saves us as the apostles give evidence to not the works of circumcision as the Pharisees are saying. Ps this is not the written law that is being referred to as it is written:
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
notice that they expected that they would learn the law in the synagogues on the Sabbath as it was read every Sabbath in every city. The reason for these extras that they did decide to add on, the reason is simple they all have connection to Idolatry in which The felt should be added or burdened with so as to not be a stumbling clock to Jews and to show their complete separation from Idol worship which was common in Gentile life.
Later Paul who agreed to this shows that eating meat offered to Idols is nothing and ok but don't do it if it will be a stumbling block.
The point being that it was expected that Gentiles who accept Jesus would learn the law in the synagogue on the Sabbath.
The assumption of your question is that the gentiles would take issue with the 7th day Sabbath. But that is not verifiable.
Gentiles were indeed coming to the synagogues on the Sabbath as recorded and they knew it that is why they said it in Acts 15:
Act 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act 13:43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
Act 13:44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
My point is this, there is no sense given in scripture that the 7th day Sabbath was an issue for Jew or Gentile. Not until some time later when Paul speaks on the Sabbath in Hebrews. But even then knowing the context I am not sure if it was an issue or Paul is simply speaking about future events and issues on the Sabbath that are in Prophecy and seen in the Sanctuary shadow.
By the way Isaiah prophecies that the Sabbath would be kept by Gentiles after Jesus comes:
Isa 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
Christ revealed the righteousness of God by faith and brought salvation and it was to the gentiles also. notice:
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Isa 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
why would the stranger say I have been separated from the Lord? Because there was a wall of partition that was only brought down by Christ as it is written:
Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
So now through Christ they are brought into citizenship with Israel and are heirs of the covenants of promise. The law would be written on their hearts as promised and as we have just seen Gods promise that they who keep His Sabbath will:
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
And this is a promise that would take place when?
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
Isa 56:8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
No longer strangers but sons and daughters of the Most High God. This is a promise to the Gentiles. Paul knew it.
ps this is not old covenant its new covenant.
Isa 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
Christ revealed the righteousness of God by faith and brought salvation and it was to the gentiles also. notice:
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Isa 56:3 Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
Isa 56:6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
why would the stranger say I have been separated from the Lord? Because there was a wall of partition that was only brought down by Christ as it is written:
Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
So now through Christ they are brought into citizenship with Israel and are heirs of the covenants of promise. The law would be written on their hearts as promised and as we have just seen Gods promise that they who keep His Sabbath will:
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
And this is a promise that would take place when?
Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
Isa 56:8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.
No longer strangers but sons and daughters of the Most High God. This is a promise to the Gentiles. Paul knew it.
ps this is not old covenant its new covenant.
He was accused of working on the Sabbath in contravention of the Talmud... What He did was saving lives and I don't know if that is work
Indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, the synagogue leader said to the people, "There are six days for work. So come and be healed on those days, not on the Sabbath."
We must have a look at what he did and then have a look at the Torah to see if they were correct because I can give you a guarantee that Jesus would never ever do something to break His own law. He is perfect...