Why I now believe that salvation can be lost.
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We have already seen several of those - argument from tenses, it is not working. Salvation has been described as past present continuous and future. To me, future is key and it depends on what i do in the present. In the past, the whole world was justified as you have already seen in those passages including Rom 5.
Correct, we receive salvation by Faith but Faith is nothing more than love for others.
Correct, we receive salvation by Faith but Faith is nothing more than love for others.
Heb 9:27Just as man is appointed to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28so also Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many; and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who eagerly await Him.
This one perfectly covers all the tenses. Only one tense matters, the future one. Take heed.
This one perfectly covers all the tenses. Only one tense matters, the future one. Take heed.
When not viewing things as if we are God, we wait for salvation patiently and this is what we call HOPE
1 Pete 1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
1 Pete 1:3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
Not sure I can expand on this.
But I agree with everything you are saying.
So I am not a promoter of sinful perfection.
So yes we can and do still sin.
Not that I think we should accept that we do.
We seek to walk after the Spirit.
But when we do have the Holy Spirit he will prick our hearts and tell us that what we did is not conducive to our new nature in Jesus.
That's the difference between genuine belivers and not.
If we have the Holy Spirit in us then he will prick our heart/conscious.
If we listen then we will confess said sins.
1 John 1:9-10
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
The word 'Confess' is not the same word as repent.
To confess as per the above verse means
to say the same thing as another, i.e. to agree with, assent to concede not to refuse, to promise not to deny to confess declare to confess, i.e. to admit or declare one's self guilty of what one is accused of.
So when we confess we agree with the Holy Spirit that we got it wrong.
But I agree with everything you are saying.
So I am not a promoter of sinful perfection.
So yes we can and do still sin.
Not that I think we should accept that we do.
We seek to walk after the Spirit.
But when we do have the Holy Spirit he will prick our hearts and tell us that what we did is not conducive to our new nature in Jesus.
That's the difference between genuine belivers and not.
If we have the Holy Spirit in us then he will prick our heart/conscious.
If we listen then we will confess said sins.
1 John 1:9-10
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
The word 'Confess' is not the same word as repent.
To confess as per the above verse means
to say the same thing as another, i.e. to agree with, assent to concede not to refuse, to promise not to deny to confess declare to confess, i.e. to admit or declare one's self guilty of what one is accused of.
So when we confess we agree with the Holy Spirit that we got it wrong.
You are twisting the scriptures in order to teach salvation by works.
Faith works through love (Galatians 5:6), but we are saved through faith, not faith plus love. Love is the greater quality of the three because God is love and it outlasts them all. Long after faith and hope are no longer necessary, love will still be the governing principle that controls all that God and his redeemed people are and do. We won't need faith and hope in heaven.
In 1 Corinthians 13:13, Paul is not teaching that even if our faith is genuine that our faith cannot save us without producing "enough" love. Paul is stressing the importance of love, not teaching that faith is insufficient to save us without our best efforts to love.
All genuine BELIEVERS love Christ. Why? Because we have received the love of God in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us (Romans 5:5) when we believed the gospel (Ephesians 1:13). We love Him because He first loved us (1 John 4:19).
Faith works through love (Galatians 5:6), but we are saved through faith, not faith plus love. Love is the greater quality of the three because God is love and it outlasts them all. Long after faith and hope are no longer necessary, love will still be the governing principle that controls all that God and his redeemed people are and do. We won't need faith and hope in heaven.
In 1 Corinthians 13:13, Paul is not teaching that even if our faith is genuine that our faith cannot save us without producing "enough" love. Paul is stressing the importance of love, not teaching that faith is insufficient to save us without our best efforts to love.
All genuine BELIEVERS love Christ. Why? Because we have received the love of God in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us (Romans 5:5) when we believed the gospel (Ephesians 1:13). We love Him because He first loved us (1 John 4:19).
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Not really:
1 Cor 13:2...and if I have absolute faith so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
...7It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1 Tim 5:7Give these instructions to the believers, so that they will be above reproach. 8If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Can anyone who is a believer and becomes worse than unbeliever still eternally saved? Of course not.
Clear as day.
1 Cor 13:2...and if I have absolute faith so as to move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
...7It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
1 Tim 5:7Give these instructions to the believers, so that they will be above reproach. 8If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Can anyone who is a believer and becomes worse than unbeliever still eternally saved? Of course not.
Clear as day.
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Paul is using hyperbole to express the importance of love and is not teaching salvation by faith + love/acts of charity/works as you suppose. You just don’t get it. 
Hyperbole or not, what Paul means is that any religious works out there means nothing, only love means something and this si what i'm reiterating.
Exactly and guess what, those people are these people:
Matt 25:
34Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, 36I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me.’
37Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink? 38When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39When did we see You sick or in prison and visit You?’
40And the King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me.’
These could be any other person apart from those that believe in eternal security. If a person believes in eternal security, why would they be surprised at all?
Matt 25:
34Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, 36I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me.’
37Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You something to drink? 38When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39When did we see You sick or in prison and visit You?’
40And the King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of Mine, you did for Me.’
These could be any other person apart from those that believe in eternal security. If a person believes in eternal security, why would they be surprised at all?
Don't get confused.
James 1: 27Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
This is not just now but has been the one and only requirement from the beginning:
Isa 58:
1“Cry aloud, do not hold back!
Raise your voice like a ram's horn.
Declare to My people their transgression
and to the house of Jacob their sins.
2For day after day they seek Me
and delight to know My ways,
like a nation that does what is right
and does not forsake the justice of their God.
They ask Me for righteous judgments;
they delight in the nearness of God.”
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5Is this the fast I have chosen,
a day for a man to deny himself,
to bow his head like a reed,
and to spread out sackcloth and ashes?
Will you call this a fast
and a day acceptable to the LORD?
6Is not this the fast that I have chosen:
to break the chains of wickedness, to untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free and tear off every yoke?
7Is it not to share your bread with the hungry,
to bring the poor and homeless into your home,
to clothe the naked when you see him,
and not to turn away
from your own flesh and blood?
But the one who rejects Christ, they will be rejected too. Means; the one who the law has reached and doesn't obey it, judgement remains on them.
James 1: 27Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
This is not just now but has been the one and only requirement from the beginning:
Isa 58:
1“Cry aloud, do not hold back!
Raise your voice like a ram's horn.
Declare to My people their transgression
and to the house of Jacob their sins.
2For day after day they seek Me
and delight to know My ways,
like a nation that does what is right
and does not forsake the justice of their God.
They ask Me for righteous judgments;
they delight in the nearness of God.”
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5Is this the fast I have chosen,
a day for a man to deny himself,
to bow his head like a reed,
and to spread out sackcloth and ashes?
Will you call this a fast
and a day acceptable to the LORD?
6Is not this the fast that I have chosen:
to break the chains of wickedness, to untie the cords of the yoke,
to set the oppressed free and tear off every yoke?
7Is it not to share your bread with the hungry,
to bring the poor and homeless into your home,
to clothe the naked when you see him,
and not to turn away
from your own flesh and blood?
But the one who rejects Christ, they will be rejected too. Means; the one who the law has reached and doesn't obey it, judgement remains on them.
1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.
Here's the order, that God loved us first by giving his only begotten Son and whosoever believes in Christ will have eternal life. The demonstration of his love is our redemption. The cause of everything is that we experienced the power of the Loved of God in us, we are saved by faith, redeemed by the precious blood of the Lamb and given eternal life because we believe in him. Having been saved, having been redeemed, given an eternal life we love him which is the resultant of faith. We love him, because he first loved us.
John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Romans 5:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Here's the order, that God loved us first by giving his only begotten Son and whosoever believes in Christ will have eternal life. The demonstration of his love is our redemption. The cause of everything is that we experienced the power of the Loved of God in us, we are saved by faith, redeemed by the precious blood of the Lamb and given eternal life because we believe in him. Having been saved, having been redeemed, given an eternal life we love him which is the resultant of faith. We love him, because he first loved us.
John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Romans 5:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
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