Why is the church so accepting of divorce and remarriage?

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JohnB

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The problem with all the push for being pure before you're married can lead to legalism. Also where does all this talk of purity leave the divorced person?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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The message I listened to earlier was on this subject. I've done a good deal of study on the subject since I was a victim of my parents divorce at 5. I saw the impact first hand and the resulting consequences nearly cost me my life and that of my parents. I wanted to learn from those consequences and follow the Bible, but have had trouble finding a decent woman who was on the same page. Our society is polluted with umbilical philosophy, including many pastors I've heard. The following is pretty basic teaching but is 10 times better than the Greek parcing non-denominational pastor that I was under for way too long.
Perhaps this will be a blessing to someone else too.

The Tragic Story of Michal
 

JohnB

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Maybe Abba Father is trying to protect you John.
I wonder if Joseph felt the same way when he was in prison. It wasn't until he was out of prison that he understood. I'll be glad when the blocking is stopped.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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By the 2010s, only 5 percent of new brides were virgins......you're talking about a very low number of people who are virgins when they marry. Also note they only count women.
Its hard for a man to have sex with out a woman. The number of people involved in sin has never changes the fact that it is sin.
And that small percent of all women have a much higher success rate by percentage than the other group.
The plain fact of the matter is that God calls fornication a sin. And statistics prove out that what God has provided works far better than the plan of sinful man.
The disolution of the family has show to be a massively destructive force in the world. Children from broken homes statistically do far worse than those from homes where the family remains. Fornication vastly reduces the marriage success rate. Fornication is destructive to family which in turn is destructive to the culture at larger.
Purity is God's plan and design, and it works.
You are advocating for sin, and you have been spoken to by many good christians concerning the matter. The bible says dont even eat with a person who calls themself a brother but continues in sexual sin. Advocating for sexual sin is the same.
Good bye we have no further conversation.
 

JohnB

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Its hard for a man to have sex with out a woman. The number of people involved in sin has never changes the fact that it is sin.
And that small percent of all women have a much higher success rate by percentage than the other group.
The plain fact of the matter is that God calls fornication a sin. And statistics prove out that what God has provided works far better than the plan of sinful man.
The disolution of the family has show to be a massively destructive force in the world. Children from broken homes statistically do far worse than those from homes where the family remains. Fornication vastly reduces the marriage success rate. Fornication is destructive to family which in turn is destructive to the culture at larger.
Purity is God's plan and design, and it works.
You are advocating for sin, and you have been spoken to by many good christians concerning the matter. The bible says dont even eat with a person who calls themself a brother but continues in sexual sin. Advocating for sexual sin is the same.
Good bye we have no further conversation.
But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.....1 Corinthians 5:11....Next time quote the whole verse. You would have to seperate yourself from this world to follow this verse as you take it to mean.
 

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The problem with all the push for being pure before you're married can lead to legalism. Also where does all this talk of purity leave the divorced person?
Do you think fornication is a sin?
 

JohnB

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Do you think fornication is a sin?
Yes it is, but Paul and Jesus had an answer for that. "Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. "....1 Corinth 7:8
 
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Locoponydirtman

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But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.....1 Corinthians 5:11....Next time quote the whole verse. You would have to seperate yourself from this world to follow this verse as you take it to mean.
Claims to be a brother.
 

JohnB

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Claims to be a brother.
What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corin 5:12 How many people would be left in your church if you did this?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corin 5:12 How many people would be left in your church if you did this?
It doesn't matter, it is God's standard.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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So is your church throwing anyone out? Paul was writing to churches that were in homes.
He was writing to the church instruction, the geographical location nor the architectural structure changes it.
And yes my church practices church discpline. If things are bad enough one can be removed from the rolls and disfellowshipped. As per scripture.
 

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because many of them think Moses law is the right way so we look at what the law says about marriage and divorce

So Christian’s who are looking at Moses law thinking “ that’s right “ are going to think this way

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭24:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

to moses and his law divorce and remarriage was perfectly acceptable it was to obey the law that when you didn’t want to be married anymore you wrote a bill of divorce and sent your wife away and she was allowed to remarry

there’s nothing wrong with divorce and remarriage under the mosaic law and many Christian’s try to add in that law they use it for an excuse to ignore the truth which is totally a different and contrary word it tells us not to obey Moses law regarding marriage and divorce or we’re committing adultery

“And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him. And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.

And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.

But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:2-9,

because teachers tesch the law instead of the gospel och is not the same word “ feel free to divorce and remarry said Moses “ “ no don’t do that thats adultery said the lord Jesus “


Until we let go of this word

“but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

were never going to hear this word properly

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the law teaches people divorce and remarriage is a ok, Jesus said its not okay and it’s adultery
 
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I get really annoyed at Christians who tell singles, even thinking about sex is a sin, YET, they have no problem with people getting married 2,3,4,5 times. Divorce and remarriage seems to be acceptable, but a single person even thinking about sex is a sin. Which is worse?
The bible is clear on those matters--One can only divorce on the grounds of adultery. Then they are free to remarry. They are not free to remarry if they divorce for other reasons. They promised God-for better or for worse to stay together forever. And yes fornication is condemned in Gods word( sex out of marriage)1Cor 6:9-11
When one looks at this world and sees all the false god worship and the majority practicing one of these unacceptable sins( 1 Cor 6:9-11) Gal 5:19-21) Paul mentioned spiritism at Gal, the Greek word= Pharmacia, thus drug addiction is apart of that)= 99% are walking the broad and spacious path. No wonder Jesus taught-FEW will find the road that leads off into life.
 
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Most pastors/Christians do view divorce as last resort; the preference is to repair the marriage. The church doesn't kick out divorcees, just as singles living together/giving birth to babies outside marriage are not kicked out either. I think the message is there but just not enforced.
Only false religion, lead by blind guides would allow such things to go on.
 

JohnB

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The bible is clear on those matters--One can only divorce on the grounds of adultery. Then they are free to remarry. They are not free to remarry if they divorce for other reasons. They promised God-for better or for worse to stay together forever. And yes fornication is condemned in Gods word( sex out of marriage)1Cor 6:9-11
When one looks at this world and sees all the false god worship and the majority practicing one of these unacceptable sins( 1 Cor 6:9-11) Gal 5:19-21) Paul mentioned spiritism at Gal, the Greek word= Pharmacia, thus drug addiction is apart of that)= 99% are walking the broad and spacious path. No wonder Jesus taught-FEW will find the road that leads off into life.
I had friends who are married jerks, that ruined their lives. I know of one woman whose husband put her in the hospital. Would you have them stayed married?
 

JohnB

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He was writing to the church instruction, the geographical location nor the architectural structure changes it.
And yes my church practices church discpline. If things are bad enough one can be removed from the rolls and disfellowshipped. As per scripture.
They may have been able to do that during the time of Paul, when the churches were small, would be very hard today.