Why is the end times so important?

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Don't pay attention to this poster ^

She believes Paul's words over the very words of God (Christ). We have clear examples of the Disciples, the Council led by the brother of Yeshua (James), Jude, the 4 Gospels ALL teaching Christ's message of the "Mercy of God." Only Paul teaches a different message which makes it clear the Disciples, the Council, and others never read Paul's letters. Had they did, they would have corrected Paul.

So far, everything she has posted seems heretical at best. Her hyper Grace is about as false of an antichrist message as it gets, and she refutes actual historian timelines, including the personal writings of Domitian who admits to tossing John into Patmos around 95 A.D. I don't know how she is able to keep spewing such garbage other than the couple others who believe as she does..
The words of Paul are the words of Christ.....unless NOTED by Paul....to pit them against each other is not only stupid, but reeks of ignorance!
 
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You have absolutely NOTHING to back up the OPINION that John wrote his revelation to ALL the churches. And definitely NOT to future churches.

Yes the churches would know what the 10 headed beast was (Rome's 10 conquored nations) as well as the rest of the symbols.

I would say that those 7 churches shared that information with the other churches as they were all passing the letters of the apostles among themselves. ie: Rome, Jerusalem

A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU... YOU ARE IN ERROR... For the FATHER wrote to SEVEN CHURCHES, but he only had FAVOR WITH TWO OF THEM, which was “SMYRNA", and “PHILADELPHIA" have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto YOU who are of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, that did not RECEIVE ME, when I CAME UNTO THEM, I AM, MESSIAH, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...
Revelation 2:7-10 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of the FATHER. And unto the angel of the church in “SMYRNA" write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Revelation 3:5-8 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied MY NAME.

The other FIVE CHURCHES, the FATHER HAS something AGAINST THEM.
For they are worshiping a “GOD” who is NOT YOUR CREATOR in whom we call ABBA, which means FATHER through a son who is NOT ME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH. But who I AM NOT is JESUS/YESHUA, in whom they had REPLACED MY SAVING NAME WITH, throughout My FATHER’S Holy Scribes/ Scriptures when I LEFT YOUR WORLD AGE. I AM NOT HIM, saith YAHOSHUA, and My FATHER IS NOT A GOD. BIG or little ‘g’ For he is your CREATOR in whom we call ABBA, which means FATHER have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, the FATHER hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, “ABBA", Father.

For there is ONLY ONE GOD in this WORLD, and his name is SATAN. It is SATAN who have BLINDED THE MINDS of My FATHER’S children, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of the FATHER, should shine unto them.

And he has also prepared Me to TESTIFY unto the CHURCHES, for she is not only Thy Elect Sister in whom I have said to GREET THEE. She is also My BRIDE, who knows My NAME, and who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA, DO YOU, I ASK? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...
Revelation 22:16-17 I YAHOSHUA HAVE SENT MINE “ANGEL", [which means a messenger] TO TESTIFY UNTO YOU THESE THINGS IN THE “CHURCHES”. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT”, [who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA] and the “BRIDE” [who she is, who is speaking to you now] SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Listen to My WORDS, for they are SPIRIT and they are TRUTH, for I have brought unto you the SECRETS and MYSTERIES in which I have promised to bring unto you, have you not READ? As well as your VISITATION, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...
Luke 19:40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy! but now they are hid from thine eyes.For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.


Shalom
 

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The people who understood the symbolism used by John to warn of coming events were the churches John wrote to. It was the warning so they could understand what was to happen soon. As John said, those events would shortly take place.

The best reason in the world to read and understand Revelation is to see God's prophecy in history. Faith affirming and a blessing to the reader. And John did write this while on Patmos, so it had to be done before 68AD.
ROFL
There are 4 different Biblical views of eschatology and yours is the least believed of them.

Here you go. 4 pointers to the 4 different views.

Here are 4 different links to the 4 theological Biblical views of eschatology.

This is because Daniel and Revelation are written in symbolic language. Daniel plainly states it is closed until the end times. Revelation is written the same way so it too is closed.

https://www.exploregod.com/biblical-prophecy-four-views-of-the-end-times

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/mill.cfm

http://www.christianciv.com/eschatology_bs_Sect1.htm

http://executableoutlines.com/end/end_01.htm
 

Endoscopy

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A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU... YOU ARE IN ERROR... For the FATHER wrote to SEVEN CHURCHES, but he only had FAVOR WITH TWO OF THEM, which was “SMYRNA", and “PHILADELPHIA" have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto YOU who are of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, that did not RECEIVE ME, when I CAME UNTO THEM, I AM, MESSIAH, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...
Revelation 2:7-10 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of the FATHER. And unto the angel of the church in “SMYRNA" write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Revelation 3:5-8 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied MY NAME.

The other FIVE CHURCHES, the FATHER HAS something AGAINST THEM.
For they are worshiping a “GOD” who is NOT YOUR CREATOR in whom we call ABBA, which means FATHER through a son who is NOT ME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH. But who I AM NOT is JESUS/YESHUA, in whom they had REPLACED MY SAVING NAME WITH, throughout My FATHER’S Holy Scribes/ Scriptures when I LEFT YOUR WORLD AGE. I AM NOT HIM, saith YAHOSHUA, and My FATHER IS NOT A GOD. BIG or little ‘g’ For he is your CREATOR in whom we call ABBA, which means FATHER have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, the FATHER hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, “ABBA", Father.

For there is ONLY ONE GOD in this WORLD, and his name is SATAN. It is SATAN who have BLINDED THE MINDS of My FATHER’S children, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of the FATHER, should shine unto them.

And he has also prepared Me to TESTIFY unto the CHURCHES, for she is not only Thy Elect Sister in whom I have said to GREET THEE. She is also My BRIDE, who knows My NAME, and who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA, DO YOU, I ASK? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...
Revelation 22:16-17 I YAHOSHUA HAVE SENT MINE “ANGEL", [which means a messenger] TO TESTIFY UNTO YOU THESE THINGS IN THE “CHURCHES”. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT”, [who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA] and the “BRIDE” [who she is, who is speaking to you now] SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Listen to My WORDS, for they are SPIRIT and they are TRUTH, for I have brought unto you the SECRETS and MYSTERIES in which I have promised to bring unto you, have you not READ? As well as your VISITATION, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...
Luke 19:40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy! but now they are hid from thine eyes.For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.


Shalom
Another prophet of God!?!?!?
Every time someone that has claimed to be one it has been found to be false. I guess I can add this one to my collection!!!
 
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Another prophet of God!?!?!?
Every time someone that has claimed to be one it has been found to be false. I guess I can add this one to my collection!!!
A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU.. PROVE ME WRONG, through My SCRIPTURES, saith YAHOSHUA. For they have been LYING TO YOU FROM THE BEGINNING, meaning GENESIS. This is why I SAID that I WOULD COME to make the things that were made known unto you that was kept from you. YOU know it is Me, because I WILL NOT SPEAK OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN, for I AM THE WORD, saith YAHOSHUA. For if you were to take the "AH" that is SIGNIFIED by the HOLY SPIRIT out of My NAME, who is YAHOSHUA. It would leave you with "YOSHUA" who I AM, the "WORD" as well as the SON, who have come unto you through not only My Prophetess in whom I have said to GREET THEE. She is also My BRIDE, have you not READ the END of the BOOK. This is why I said TRUST NOT IN MAN, because I AM SENDING YOU A WOMAN, who is MY BRIDE to prepare My CHURCH to become the true BRIDE, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures... Revelation 22:16-17 I YAHOSHUA HAVE SENT MINE “ANGEL", [which means a messenger] TO TESTIFY UNTO YOU THESE THINGS IN THE “CHURCHES”. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT”, [who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA] and the “BRIDE” [who she is, who is speaking to you now] SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

I would not add this to your COLLECTION, for I have brought unto you, your VISITATION, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Luke 19:40-44
And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.



Shalom
 

louis

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My view personally, for why the Lord provides so many scriptures about the end times that are primarily directed at this final generation to start increasing in knowledge and understanding, is that the beasts system will put a temporary end to the worst of times caused by the numerous environmental catastrophes depicted in Revelation 8.
And as the whole world is going to love the beasts system (Revelation 13:4), including its standing where it should not, in the hearts of the faithful (Mark 13:14); we are then supposed to realize that whatever it is that makes the beasts system great, the end results nevertheless reek environmental havoc and genocide as depicted in Revelation 16 & 9.
 

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A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU.. PROVE ME WRONG, through My SCRIPTURES, saith YAHOSHUA. For they have been LYING TO YOU FROM THE BEGINNING, meaning GENESIS. This is why I SAID that I WOULD COME to make the things that were made known unto you that was kept from you. YOU know it is Me, because I WILL NOT SPEAK OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS WRITTEN, for I AM THE WORD, saith YAHOSHUA. For if you were to take the "AH" that is SIGNIFIED by the HOLY SPIRIT out of My NAME, who is YAHOSHUA. It would leave you with "YOSHUA" who I AM, the "WORD" as well as the SON, who have come unto you through not only My Prophetess in whom I have said to GREET THEE. She is also My BRIDE, have you not READ the END of the BOOK. This is why I said TRUST NOT IN MAN, because I AM SENDING YOU A WOMAN, who is MY BRIDE to prepare My CHURCH to become the true BRIDE, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures... Revelation 22:16-17 I YAHOSHUA HAVE SENT MINE “ANGEL", [which means a messenger] TO TESTIFY UNTO YOU THESE THINGS IN THE “CHURCHES”. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. AND THE “SPIRIT”, [who I AM, saith YAHOSHUA] and the “BRIDE” [who she is, who is speaking to you now] SAY COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

I would not add this to your COLLECTION, for I have brought unto you, your VISITATION, saith YAHOSHUA, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Luke 19:40-44
And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.



Shalom
You are one in a long string of self proclaimed prophets. So I will just keep you on my list of false prophets. In ancient Israel a prophet who foretold the future falsely was put to death by stoning. Today you just get ridiculed!!
 
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You are one in a long string of self proclaimed prophets. So I will just keep you on my list of false prophets. In ancient Israel a prophet who foretold the future falsely was put to death by stoning. Today you just get ridiculed!!
A PROPHETIC WORD PROVE ME WRONG, for you WORDS MEAN NOTHING, Prove her WRONG saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ, unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH. PROVE HER WRONG, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. 2 Timothy 3:15-17 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ YAHOSHUA. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of the FATHER may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Shalom
 

jb

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John did write this while on Patmos, so it had to be done before 68AD.
Your date for the inspiration and writing of the Revelation of Jesus Christ is 28 years too early...try 96 AD, in the reign of Caesar Domitianus Augustus!
 

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My view personally, for why the Lord provides so many scriptures about the end times that are primarily directed at this final generation to start increasing in knowledge and understanding, is that the beasts system will put a temporary end to the worst of times caused by the numerous environmental catastrophes depicted in Revelation 8.
And as the whole world is going to love the beasts system (Revelation 13:4), including its standing where it should not, in the hearts of the faithful (Mark 13:14); we are then supposed to realize that whatever it is that makes the beasts system great, the end results nevertheless reek environmental havoc and genocide as depicted in Revelation 16 & 9.
One view of the beast standing in the Holy Place is in the third temple. The Israelies have excavated the place where the temple stood. It was exactly where the Torah said it was. On a high part of the kingdom of David. Just south of the Temple Mount. The Wailing Wall was part of Fort Antonio housing 6000 Roman soldiers and 4000 camp followers assisting the soldiers by cooking, setting up, tearing down and running errands. If you look at the scale model of the temple and Ft. Antonio it shows the temple taking up most of the area with Ft. Antonio in just a small corner. Ludicrous for 10,000 men to live in.

Second temple location - where was it built

Second Temple
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Temple

Destruction of the second temple
http://www.aish.com/jl/h/cc/48944036.html?tab=y#
 

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A PROPHETIC WORD PROVE ME WRONG, for you WORDS MEAN NOTHING, Prove her WRONG saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ, unto YOU, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH. PROVE HER WRONG, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. 2 Timothy 3:15-17 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ YAHOSHUA. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of the FATHER may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Shalom
All it takes for me is for you to proclaim you are a prophet. End of discussion. If you had just quoted scripture about the future that would have been OK. We could agree or disagree politely but as soon as you proclaimed yourself a prophet end of discussion.

At 74 I have seen many like you come and go deceiving many. All proven wrong soon. I'm not bothering to wait for your downfall since you are following their pattern.
 

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Studying with blind eyes and deaf ears AND preconceived ideas, is why there is so much heresy/apostasy today and if the contents of these forums is any indication, getting worse.

As a baby Christian I had some preconceived notions, put there by well-meaning but false teaching, but when I tried to find scripture to back me up I found scripture instead that supported a view I had opposed. God's word cutting through with that great two edged sword. 'Course I had to read the bible IN CONYEXT, like starting at the first chapter of a book and reading all of it.
ROFL
There are 4 different Biblical views of eschatology and yours is the least believed of them.

Here you go. 4 pointers to the 4 different views.

Here are 4 different links to the 4 theological Biblical views of eschatology.

This is because Daniel and Revelation are written in symbolic language. Daniel plainly states it is closed until the end times. Revelation is written the same way so it too is closed.

https://www.exploregod.com/biblical-prophecy-four-views-of-the-end-times

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/mill.cfm

http://www.christianciv.com/eschatology_bs_Sect1.htm

http://executableoutlines.com/end/end_01.htm
 

GraceAndTruth

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4 links to nowhere. NO wonder you are confused.
 

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Studying with blind eyes and deaf ears AND preconceived ideas, is why there is so much heresy/apostasy today and if the contents of these forums is any indication, getting worse.

As a baby Christian I had some preconceived notions, put there by well-meaning but false teaching, but when I tried to find scripture to back me up I found scripture instead that supported a view I had opposed. God's word cutting through with that great two edged sword. 'Course I had to read the bible IN CONYEXT, like starting at the first chapter of a book and reading all of it.
So....please pass this interpretation along to the board. What is the harm in that?
Please keep it in one paragraph more or less.
 
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All it takes for me is for you to proclaim you are a prophet. End of discussion.

At 74 I have seen many like you come and go deceiving many. All proven wrong soon. I'm not bothering to wait for your downfall since you are following their pattern.
A PROPHETIC WORD.. Do not worry about the OTHERS, PROVE HER WRONG, saith YAHOSHUA, for I have sent unto you one who is after My HEART, which is My MIND, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures... 2 Timothy 3:15-17 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ YAHOSHUA. All scripture is given by inspiration of the FATHER, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of the FATHER may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

If I LEAVE, it will be because the FATHER HAD TAKEN ME AWAY.. He is only interested in those who HEAR HIS VOICE, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. John 10:25-30
Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
I and my Father are one.

And with this FOOLISHNESS, no wonder why they left. I will be taking her from you, but the only thing with her, is that now I HAVE MADE YOU ACCOUNTABLE, for this is your VISITATION, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Luke 19:40-44 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out. And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

REMEMBER If I CAN GET JUST ONE, then My JOB IS DONE, saith YAHOSHUA. For many are CALLED but FEW ARE CHOSEN, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures... Matthew 22: 10-14
So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are called, but few are chosen.

Shalom
 
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So....please pass this interpretation along to the board. What is the harm in that?
Please keep it in one paragraph more or less.
Studying with blind eyes and deaf ears AND preconceived ideas, is why there is so much heresy/apostasy today and if the contents of these forums is any indication, getting worse.

As a baby Christian I had some preconceived notions, put there by well-meaning but false teaching, but when I tried to find scripture to back me up I found scripture instead that supported a view I had opposed. God's word cutting through with that great two edged sword. 'Course I had to read the bible IN CONYEXT, like starting at the first chapter of a book and reading all of it.

You have not said ANYTHING.. EMPTY WORDS. for I have brought you scriptures, now it is on you to believe. But know this. If you AWAKEN in a PLACE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHEN, WHERE, or HOW YOU GOT THERE, then this CONVERSATION will come back unto your memory. Now I am leaving your unbeliefs, and your demons that are lying to one another, for these people do not know Me, saith YAHOSHUA, but you will. soon. For this is your VISITATION, saith YAHOSHUA, rather you believe Me or not, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Luke 19:40-44
And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.



Shalom
 

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Your date for the inspiration and writing of the Revelation of Jesus Christ is 28 years too early...try 96 AD, in the reign of Caesar Domitianus Augustus!
John writing on Patmos in 96AD would make John about 96 years old!! And he goes on to pastor at Ephesus after his release from Patmos? ROFLH So he writes to his 7 churches warning them about things that are going to happen centuries later? Yet John tells them in his opening that these things will SHORTLY take place. Since John wrote these either prior to or at 68AD then the events in 70AD were definitely SOON.

I post to you information, but I can not and will not debate this issue with you. Believe whatever you like.
 

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ROFL
There are 4 different Biblical views of eschatology and yours is the least believed of them.

Here you go. 4 pointers to the 4 different views.

Here are 4 different links to the 4 theological Biblical views of eschatology.

This is because Daniel and Revelation are written in symbolic language. Daniel plainly states it is closed until the end times. Revelation is written the same way so it too is closed.

https://www.exploregod.com/biblical-prophecy-four-views-of-the-end-times

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/mill.cfm

http://www.christianciv.com/eschatology_bs_Sect1.htm

http://executableoutlines.com/end/end_01.htm
No thanks, I have all I need. ROFLH
 
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A PROPHETIC WORD UNTO YOU... The FATHER wrote to SEVEN CHURCHES, but he only had FAVOR WITH TWO OF THEM, which was “SMYRNA", and “PHILADELPHIA" have you not READ? Saith YAHOSHUA, who is Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto YOU who are of the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, that did not RECEIVE ME, when I CAME UNTO THEM, I AM, MESSIAH, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures...
Revelation 2:7-10 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of the FATHER. And unto the angel of the church in “SMYRNA" write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Revelation 3:5-8 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied MY NAME.

The other FIVE CHURCHES, the FATHER HAS something AGAINST THEM.
For they are worshiping a “GOD” who is NOT YOUR CREATOR in whom we call ABBA, which means FATHER through a son who is NOT ME, saith YAHOSHUA, who is the Christ meaning the ANOINTED ONE, unto the GENTILE NATIONS/NATIONALITIES of the WORLD, called MANKIND, and unto the JEWS, I AM, MESSIAH. But who I AM NOT is JESUS/YESHUA, in whom they had REPLACED MY SAVING NAME WITH, throughout My FATHER’S Holy Scribes/ Scriptures when I LEFT YOUR WORLD AGE. I AM NOT HIM, saith YAHOSHUA, and My FATHER IS NOT A GOD. BIG or little ‘g’ For he is your CREATOR in whom we call ABBA, which means FATHER have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures.. Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, the FATHER hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, “ABBA", Father.

For there is ONLY ONE GOD in this WORLD, and his name is SATAN. It is SATAN who have BLINDED THE MINDS of My FATHER’S children, have you not READ? Fulfilling the FATHER Scriptures. 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of the FATHER, should shine unto them.

Shalom
 
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Nearly every book (and maybe every book) in the bible seems to touch upon the end times.
These data, however, were mostly not meant for people in prior generations to comprehend.
Even Daniel was told that the events shown him regarding the end times were sealed until the end times, at which time they would then be unsealed, with their understanding increasing among the faithful.
So why does the Lord feel it so important that we, who are supposedly the final generation, should increase in our understanding about the end times?

Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
The end times are important for the welfare of the world.

The book of Revelation is a warning to the world to get right with God, for He is going to end this sin business on earth when the world rebels against Him, so they will not go along with the world when they stop the truth in favor of the occult, and evolution, and people can still evolve, when the nations come together.

And a revealing of Jesus to the world, and they shall know that God is true, and He is Jesus Christ.

God said He identifies Himself as the one true God by showing us the end from the beginning, which He showed us the history of mankind, and what is going on today, and said no other religion, or person, can do the same.

So prophesy is good for proving the God of the Bible is true, and God told us what is going on today.

The Bible says save some with compassion, and save some with fear, which it might put fear in the hearts of some people if the saints can show what God said is going to happen, and they were on the path to destruction by following the world, and so they can avoid it.

We know we are in the end time, because God tells us of the new age movement that has a false interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and honoring the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, and the new age movement will be in the latter times, and the time will come the world will only want to hear the Bible according to their interpretation, and will lead all people that do not love God to the beast kingdom in Revelation 13 where God will then put the wicked down.

Daniel said that he did not understand what was told him concerning what would occur at the end time, and was told to go his way for he could not understand it, for the book is sealed unto the time of the end.

For many will run to and fro, advanced travel, and knowledge shall be increased, advanced technology, which the book is unsealed at the time of the end, which means the saints can understand the book of Daniel, and the end time, for the saints can see, hear, and know what is going on all around the world, and how it is possible for the nations to come together which they rebel against God.

The end times are important because it is a great witness to the world to show them the word of God is true, and God is true, and to let them know to get right with God so they do not get caught up in following the world.

Some people are skeptical of the Bible, and prophesy is a good witness to show them that God is true.

If we can show them the God of the Bible is true there is more of a chance they will believe in Jesus.

Nah 2:3 The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots shall be with flaming torches in the day of his preparation, and the fir trees shall be terribly shaken.
Nah 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

Automobiles at the end time.

Isa 31:4 For thus hath the LORD spoken unto me, Like as the lion and the young lion roaring on his prey, when a multitude of shepherds is called forth against him, he will not be afraid of their voice, nor abase himself for the noise of them: so shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof.
Isa 31:5 As birds flying, so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it.

This appears to be jets, like birds flying, the 6th day war, 1967, when they took control of Jerusalem.

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure.

Isa 41:21 Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob.
Isa 41:22 Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.
Isa 41:23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
Isa 41:24 Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.
Isa 41:25 I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
Isa 41:26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.
Isa 41:27 The first shall say to Zion, Behold, behold them: and I will give to Jerusalem one that bringeth good tidings.
Isa 41:28 For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them, and there was no counsellor, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.
Isa 41:29 Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.

God proves to us He is true, and we need to prove to people God is true by prophesy, and we probably have the best advantage using prophesy than at any other time in history.