Why the King James Bible

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The KJV Only position is mainly about tradition in my opinion. I will say, though, that not all modern translations are equal in terms of quality. A lot of times those who criticize modern translations compare them to the NIV rather than a better more literal translation like the ESV or NASB.

One must keep in mind that the standard are the original writings, and not the KJV. God chose to use the original languages of Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic and those original words are what are inspired, not the translations.

We have manuscript evidence, which are copies of the original writings. These manuscripts were copied over and over again, and copying errors were made during this process. We don't have the original writings, so we rely on manuscript evidence to derive a reasonable estimate of what the original writings were.

Earlier manuscript evidence is typically less polluted with copying errors, as the copying process itself lends to errors.

The Textus Receptus is the underlying Greek manuscript for the KJV. We have much more manuscript evidence available to us than Erasmus had when he created the Textus Receptus Greek version, and those manuscripts are much older than their manuscript evidence. The Nestle Aland 27/UBS is the most commonly used Greek manuscript for the modern translations (by the way some claim the Wescott Hort Greek text is the basis for modern translations, but the basis is the Nestle Aland 27/UBS...it has went through revisions since Wescott Hort had anything to do with it). The NA 27/UBS incorporates the older manuscript evidence which was discovered since the Textus Receptus was created. Some changes/omissions were made between the Textus Receptus and the NA 27/UBS because the older manuscript evidence didn't reflect the differences (copying errors), but none of those differences affected major doctrines.

Besides having an underlying Greek translation with more manuscript evidence, translators of the modern versions understand more about Greek grammar than KJV translators did. For instance, they now understand the Granville Sharp rule which has enabled them to clarify certain passages and accentuate the teachings of Scripture on the deity of Christ better. There is a very handy chart on this site for doing comparisons on the key verses regarding the deity of Christ in regards to KJV versus modern translations:

Defending the Deity of Jesus Christ With Modern Bible Translations


Archaic words are another big issue with the KJV. The modern reader does not need to be burdened with such arcane language:

http://www.kjvonly.org/robert/joyner_obsolete_words_1.html
http://www.kjvonly.org/robert/joyner_obsolete_words_2.html

Here's just a few examples of bad renderings that the KJV has:

I Tim 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

We know that this is not a good translation, because there are heinous sins that have nothing to do with money, including rape or child molestation. The modern translations render this much better:

I Tim 6:10 [SUP]10 [/SUP]For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

These are just a few problems associated with the KJV translation. You can read the book KJV Only Controversy by James White to research this topic in detail if you wish. There are other problems and inconsistencies which were fixed in the modern versions.

The KJV was a great translation for many years, but there is no reason for modern readers to be burdened with archaic language. In addition, there were numerous mistranslations that needed correcting, and additional manuscript evidence needs to be considered. The KJV translators and the KJV should not be disrespected as it served a purpose and many have been brought to faith while hearing or reading its words.

The need for some newer translations is very apparent. The archaic nature of the language of the translation simply demanded it. There is no reason to make it nearly impossible for today's reader to comprehend the gospel message by such archaic language.


The worst part of the modern translation argument is the accusations of a demonic plot behind the translators and their motives to water down the word of God. I am not really surprised, though. It seems like there are always some gullible Christians who fall for conspiracy theories of every type.

Credibility of the spokespeople for the KJV Only camp is also a big issue. Gail Replinger, one of the main critics, has no academic credentials in original languages or theology. She has degrees in home economics and interior design, if I'm not mistaken. Peter Ruckman, another KJV Only person, is a well known purveyor of bad teachings, and claims that the government is operating alien breeding facilities and implanting brain transmitters in black people, youths, and the elderly. Steven Anderson, another KJV Only advocate, prayed that God would kill all gay people and that Obama would get brain cancer. He also claims that you cannot be saved without hearing words from the KJV. The credibility of such individuals speaks for itself.
 
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“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.” Revelation 22:19




“And” 12848 (73x176) times in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“And” 3031 (7x433) times in the NT. (case sensitive)


“And if” 210 (3x7x10) times in the Bible. (case sensitive)


And if” 84 (3x7x4) times in the NT. (any case)


“if any” 42 (3x7x2) verses in the NT. (case sensitive)


“if any” 74 (37x2) chapters in the Bible.


“if any man” 35 (7x5) times in the NT. (case sensitive)


“any man” 137 verses of the Bible.


“shall” 1414th (7x202) time this word occurs NT.


shall” 9758th (7x17x82) time this word occurs in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“shall take” this is the 6th occurrence of the phrase in NT (man)


“shall take” found in 66 chapters of the Bible (think about it!!!)


“take” 714th (7x3x34) occurrence in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“away” 210 (3x7x10) times in the NT.


“from the” 137th chapter in the NT containing this phrase.


“the” 62049 (37x3x559) occurrence in the Bible (1st “the” and case sensitive)


“words” 546th (3x7x26) time this word occurs in the Bible.


“word(s)” 287th (7x41) time in the NT.


“the word(s)” 377th chapter containing the phrase “the word” or “the words”


“the word(s)” 623rd (7x89) time this phrase occurs in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the word(s)” 157th (157 is the 37th prime and we will see this number again in 1 John 5:7) occurrence in the NT. (case sensitive)


“the word(s)” 665th (7x19x5) verse in the Bible containing this phrase.


“words of the” 66th occurrence (66 books of the Bible) of this phrase in the Bible.


“book” 186th (7 x 25) occurrence of this word in the Bible. (1st occurrence)


“book” 39th occurrence in the NT (39 books of the OT) (1st occurence)


“of this” 198 (66 x 3) time this phrase occurs in the Bible (66 books of the Bible)


“of this” (case sensitive) 196 (7x7x4) occurrence in the Bible (Jesus Christ 196 times in KJB)


“of this” 74 (37x2) verses containing this phrase in the NT.


“of this” 73 verses NT (case sensitive)


“prophecy” 21 (3x7) times in the Bible.


“God” 1184th (37x32) verse in the NT containing this word (case sensitive)


“God*” 4110 (137x30) occurrence in the Bible (case sensitive)


“shall” 1001 (77x13) final occurrence in the NT.


“shall” 6013 (7x859) times in the Bible and final occurrence. (case sensitive)


“take” 161st (7x23) and final occurrence in the NT in the 157th verse containing this word.


“take” 119th (7x17) occurrence in the NT. (case sensitive)


“shall take” 7th time in the NT and final occurrence in the Bible. (God)


“take* away” 35 (7x5) time in the NT. (final occurence)


“his” 5968 (373 x 16) verses in the Bible containing this word.


“his” 8386th (7x1198) and final occurrence in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“part” 175th (7x25) and final verse in Bible containing this word.


“part” this is the 37th chapter in the NT that contains this word.


“out” 2774th (73x38) occurrence of this word in the Bible.


“out of” 245th (7x7x5) occurrence in the NT (1st occurrence in the verse)


“the book” 133rd (7x19) final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the book” 27 times in the NT (1 for each of the 27 books of the New Testament)


“the book(s)” 140th (7x20) and final occurrence of the phrases “the book” or “the books”


“the book of life” found exactly 7 times in the KJB


“of life” found exactly 70 times in the KJB


“of life” found exactly 37 times in the NT of the KJB


“life” found in 49 (7x7) books of the Bible and 270 (27 x 10) chapters of the Bible.


“and out” 74 (37x2) verses in the Bible contain this phrase.


“out of” 1337th (7x91) verse in the Bible that contains this phrase


“out of” 1477th (7x211) and final time this phrase occurs in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the holy” 148th (37x4) and final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible. (case sensitive)


“the holy” 280th (7x40) and final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible, (any case)


“city” 777th (37x3x7) final verse of the Bible that contains this word.


“city” 868th (7x31x4) this is the final occurrence of the word city in the Bible.


“and” 51695 (7x7x1055) times in the Bible (3rd and final occurrence in this verse)


“from the” 224th (7x32) and final occurrence of this phrase in the NT. (case sensitive)


“the” (case sensitive) 10696 (7x191x8) final occurrence of this word in the Bible


“things” 1022nd (7x73x3) verse in the Bible that contains this word.


“things which” 137th verse in the Bible that contains this phrase.


“things which” 111th (37x3) and final occurrence of this phrase in the Bible.


“things which are” this phrase occurs exactly 37 times in the KJB


“which” 1484th (7x212) occurrence in the NT. (case sensitive)


“which” 3782nd verse in the Bible that contains this word.


“which are” 119th (7x17) and final verse in the NT that contains this phrase.


“which are written” 7 times in the NT of the KJB.


“in this” 148th (37x4) occurrence and 146th (2x73) verse in Bible containing this phrase.


“book” this is the 37th and final verse in the NT that contains this phrase.


“book” 42nd (3x7x2) and final occurrence of this word in the NT.




The King James Bible contains 783137 words.


Jesus in Greek gematria = 888 = (37x24)


Jesus in popular English gematria = 444 = (37x12)


Jesus in simple English gematria = 74 = (37x2)


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