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prove-all

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A new way to parent: raising 'theybies'; babies without a gender assignment

The latest example of the symptom of America’s ungodliness comes in what is being termed
as “theybies,” or children of parents who want the child to “choose” their own gender.
 

GodisONE

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both homosexuality and pediphiles are equally mentally ill!!

it takes someone suffering from psychological disorders to find either way of life acceptable!!
 

oldethennew

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any kind of perversion especially the kind that our Saviour has informed us of,
is pure evil/deviltry in one of it's truest forms.
 

garee

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Why do lgbtq supporters say "love is love" but then act like pedophilia is the worst thing in the world?? "its not a sexuality" they say,... well neither is homosexuality, its lustful temptations, am I correct?? dont men and women have certain both have certain traits and differences that makes them go well together? I need some good arguments against lgbtq stuff, im not sure what to say to my Christian friend who supports it. I need logical explanations plz? shes rly smart:giggle::unsure:(y)
The counterfeiter who turn things upside down as if God had no understanding would have us believe the kingdom of God is already here as new creatures (the bride of Christ) as if we are no longer male nor females Jew or Gentile

Pedophilia would seem to be the next work he would bring out of the closet . as in no discrimination... when there is no law there is no trespass .

Makes me wonder that when he does come will he find faith (his work of faith working in men) or a froward generation "no faith" as in the time of Noah . Men walking after the imaginations of there own deceitful hearts, evil continually

Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith
 
If homosexuality is a perversion ... a**l sex, then I would have to also say the o*** sex is a perversion. If the natural way is P/V, then anything else is unnatural and wrong.
I have to agree with your statements there, Blanche. Not quite sure of the words you were insinuating with "****", but, yes! Even "natural procreation", is a perversion, a vexation of both flesh and Spirit! Yet? Our Heavenly Father, in His "Loving Kindness", in the MIDST of His "Wrath", (how can I day) "Relented" From His "Judgement/s", in an "I can STILL work with this!" Even though He knew that Cain, would be the result of Eve's "wholly seduction!" As is rather "confirmed", in the written record, by both Adam and Eve, supporting the serpents latest "fashion trend!" Fig leaves, covering their "privates!" Of the which God, did NOT approve, but rather, "shed blood", in a "pouring salt in the wound", as a constant "reminder" to Adam and Eve, of "who and what" they had reduced themselves to, in their "allowing themselves" to particapate in the serpent's "con" of "you CAN be AS Gods." Which is, of course? Animals!

The topic concerning animals? Not even THESE creatures, have been "conned" by the the serpent, in performing "non pro-creating" acts! And, in the minutia of cases where these "traits" are exhibited? They are, if not out right killed? They are "cut off" from their "particular society", and left to fend for themselves!

So, to those who support these perversions, of the which, God will NOT "work with that?" A question: "How's it feel to be "more GULLIBLE", and stupider then an animal?"
 
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theanointedsinner

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as unnatural as homosexuality may be

our opponents can argue
and supernatural events does seem unnatural

which makes me believe that we will never be able to go through all possible points of their argument for them.
 

OstrichSmiling

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Why do lgbtq supporters say "love is love" but then act like pedophilia is the worst thing in the world?? "its not a sexuality" they say,... well neither is homosexuality, its lustful temptations, am I correct?? dont men and women have certain both have certain traits and differences that makes them go well together? I need some good arguments against lgbtq stuff, im not sure what to say to my Christian friend who supports it. I need logical explanations plz? shes rly smart:giggle::unsure:(y)
Deuteronomy said it well. Homosexual sex is consensual sex. Pedophilia and Ephebophilia are not consensual by law and is therefore rape.
 

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A new California bill aims to punish therapists who counsel people about how to overcome
gender confusion. It would add reparative therapy to a list of fraudulent business practices.
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB2943

"Unlawful business practices: sexual orientation change efforts."
This California Bill Could Criminalize the Bible’s View on Homosexuality

It is already illegal in California to sell reparative counseling to a minor. This bill aims
to expand the ban to include adults. It becomes law if it passes the Senate and is signed
by the governor.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/19/lawmakers-move-to-limit-gay-conversion-therapy-in-california/
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http://www.californiafamily.org/oppose-ca-ab-2943-ab-1779-and-ab-2119-reference-materials/
http://www.californiafamily.org/2018/assembly-votes-to-violate-the-1st-amendment/
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Assemblyman Evan Low, the homosexual lawmaker who introduced the bill to the California state
legislature, says reparative therapy is harmful and should be outlawed. But other lawmakers worry
that this bill aims to censor free speech and infringe upon religious freedom by muzzling discussion
concerning gender confusion.
https://www.newsweek.com/gay-conversion-therapy-free-speech-california-ban-899668

“AB 2943 would amend the California Consumer Legal Remedies Act—a consumer law that outlaws
unfair and deceptive practices—by adding so-called ‘sexual orientation change efforts’ to a list of
banned practices,” wrote Monica Burke, a research assistant at the DeVos Center for Religion and
Civil Society. “It would, in effect, ban all practices that the state deems attempting to change one’s
sexual orientation—including practices as indirect as the publishing of certain material.

This expansive law would impose widespread censorship that could implicate authors, speakers,
counselors, colleges and universities, and even religious leaders seeking to address unwanted
same-sex attraction or gender identity confusion.”

Assemblyman Low told skeptics that the bill does not impede freedom of speech or religion because
it applies only to commercial and financial transactions. Therefore pastors and therapists can still
counsel people about how to overcome gender confusion as long as no financial transaction happens.
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Christian groups have pointed out that a ban on advertising or selling services that help a person
overcome gender confusion and same-sex attraction could be broadly interpreted to ban the sale of
certain books—including the Bible.
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-new...conversion-therapy-bill-take-aim-at-the-bible
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Attorney Anthony Sampson, who advises Assemblyman Low’s office, assured the Associated Press
that the vaguely worded bill would not be interpreted to ban books. Instead, it would only apply to
“practices” and counseling services. Not everyone believes Sampson.
http://rockrivertimes.com/2018/05/07/california-bill-would-not-ban-bibles/
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Calif. bill already impacting religious expression

Summit Ministries, a Colorado-based organization that teaches that homosexuality is a sin, has
decided to cancel a summer conference at Biola University in the Los Angeles area.
http://www.bpnews.net/50858/calif-bill-already-impacting-religious-expression
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A study published in the New Atlantis concludes that no genetic evidence supports the idea
that people are born homosexual or transgender. These conditions develop after birth.
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/number-50-fall-2016
-

The American Psychological Association says, “There is no consensus among scientists about the
exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation.”
http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/orientation.aspx

But the Bible reveals that there is an exact reason why people develop psychological
conditions like gender confusion and same-sex attraction.

“For although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they
became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened. …

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their
bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped
and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen. For this reason
God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,
and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one
another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty
for their error” (Romans 1:21, 24-27; Revised Standard Version).
 
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theanointedsinner

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A new California bill aims to punish therapists who counsel people about how to overcome
gender confusion. It would add reparative therapy to a list of fraudulent business practices.
http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB2943

"Unlawful business practices: sexual orientation change efforts."
This California Bill Could Criminalize the Bible’s View on Homosexuality

It is already illegal in California to sell reparative counseling to a minor. This bill aims
to expand the ban to include adults. It becomes law if it passes the Senate and is signed
by the governor.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/19/lawmakers-move-to-limit-gay-conversion-therapy-in-california/
-

http://www.californiafamily.org/oppose-ca-ab-2943-ab-1779-and-ab-2119-reference-materials/
http://www.californiafamily.org/2018/assembly-votes-to-violate-the-1st-amendment/
-

Assemblyman Evan Low, the homosexual lawmaker who introduced the bill to the California state
legislature, says reparative therapy is harmful and should be outlawed. But other lawmakers worry
that this bill aims to censor free speech and infringe upon religious freedom by muzzling discussion
concerning gender confusion.
https://www.newsweek.com/gay-conversion-therapy-free-speech-california-ban-899668

“AB 2943 would amend the California Consumer Legal Remedies Act—a consumer law that outlaws
unfair and deceptive practices—by adding so-called ‘sexual orientation change efforts’ to a list of
banned practices,” wrote Monica Burke, a research assistant at the DeVos Center for Religion and
Civil Society. “It would, in effect, ban all practices that the state deems attempting to change one’s
sexual orientation—including practices as indirect as the publishing of certain material.

This expansive law would impose widespread censorship that could implicate authors, speakers,
counselors, colleges and universities, and even religious leaders seeking to address unwanted
same-sex attraction or gender identity confusion.”

Assemblyman Low told skeptics that the bill does not impede freedom of speech or religion because
it applies only to commercial and financial transactions. Therefore pastors and therapists can still
counsel people about how to overcome gender confusion as long as no financial transaction happens.
-

Christian groups have pointed out that a ban on advertising or selling services that help a person
overcome gender confusion and same-sex attraction could be broadly interpreted to ban the sale of
certain books—including the Bible.
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-new...conversion-therapy-bill-take-aim-at-the-bible
-

Attorney Anthony Sampson, who advises Assemblyman Low’s office, assured the Associated Press
that the vaguely worded bill would not be interpreted to ban books. Instead, it would only apply to
“practices” and counseling services. Not everyone believes Sampson.
http://rockrivertimes.com/2018/05/07/california-bill-would-not-ban-bibles/
-

Calif. bill already impacting religious expression

Summit Ministries, a Colorado-based organization that teaches that homosexuality is a sin, has
decided to cancel a summer conference at Biola University in the Los Angeles area.
http://www.bpnews.net/50858/calif-bill-already-impacting-religious-expression
-

A study published in the New Atlantis concludes that no genetic evidence supports the idea
that people are born homosexual or transgender. These conditions develop after birth.
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/number-50-fall-2016
-

The American Psychological Association says, “There is no consensus among scientists about the
exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation.”
http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/orientation.aspx

But the Bible reveals that there is an exact reason why people develop psychological
conditions like gender confusion and same-sex attraction.

“For although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they
became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened. …

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their
bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped
and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever! Amen. For this reason
God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,
and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one
another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty
for their error” (Romans 1:21, 24-27; Revised Standard Version).
and that new california bill proves we are not in heaven yet
 
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Why do lgbtq supporters say "love is love" but then act like pedophilia is the worst thing in the world?? "its not a sexuality" they say,... well neither is homosexuality, its lustful temptations, am I correct?? dont men and women have certain both have certain traits and differences that makes them go well together? I need some good arguments against lgbtq stuff, im not sure what to say to my Christian friend who supports it. I need logical explanations plz? shes rly smart:giggle::unsure:(y)
Why dont you worry about not judging other people.
 
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Ugly

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Why dont you worry about not judging other people.
Funny. I thought she was using God's standards. Perhaps you don't.
Though I'm not sure i see any 'judging' going on anyways. I see a woman that has a friend that claims a belief that while claiming to support something that completely defies that belief. So she's asking for help on how to show her truth. How's that judging?
Do you know what the term 'judging' means? Because it doesn't sound like it.
 
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theanointedsinner

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In Mark 1 or 2, Jesus eat with tax collectors and sinners

and ...

1 Corinthians 9:20-22 New International Version (NIV)
20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.



I'll leave it here