By Cfultz3: “*sin is defined as offence” sin is to REBEL, to disobey. So sin IS an offence. But to say that God is offended by our sin? IF you are born again, per John 3 and Romans 10 and 1 John 5:18, then you are covered in the Blood of the Lord Jesus and God, the Father does not see your sin. You are righteous in Christ and He in you.
Crossfire: “*Continual sin actually hinders the work of the Holy Spirit in your life. “ See 1 John 5:18
This is total nonsense. Do people really believe that God looks at you through a Jesus cloak while you continue in sin? This has to be one of the most foolish doctrines ever proclaimed by people.
Jesus did not teach any such thing anywhere. There is no scripture in the entire Bible that says the blood of Jesus Christ covers your continued sin so God cannot see it. Not only does the whole context of the Bible deny such a thing, there are no scriptures that support it. It is read into a few scriptures by conjecture by the false teachers and theologians. Yet people eat it up.
This damnable heresy treats the blood of Jesus Christ like the blood of animals which cannot purge the conscience. How can people honestly believe that the best God can do is cloak wickedness with a Jesus cloak rather than actually purify the heart?
Jesus can cleanse you. He is not a sin cloak.
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might
redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
This has to be one of the most damnable doctrines there is, yet millions of people buy into it because it makes them feel good. There is no strait gate, count the cost, deny self, pick up your cross, dig deep, be a doer of the word, go and sin no more, etc. in it. It throws all the teachings of Jesus Christ right out the window.
You MUST remember that when a person is born again, ALL things INCLUDING the sin nature of man, are washed clean by the blood. And when He resides in us, we have HIS nature. What most Christians fail to do is to get rid of the old HABITS of the old nature. They fail to pursue the manifesting of the Christ-nature that is now, newly, in them. Too many that call themselves Christians insist on hanging on to their old, former and NOW DEAD nature and it is THAT that gets in the way of their ability to hear from Holy Spirit and then so, to obey.
Maggie
Where is any of that in the Bible?
Jesus taught that you must pick up your cross, deny yourself and follow Him.
Paul taught that you are to crucify your flesh with its passions and desires in repentance. You are to die with Him crucifying the old man so that God will raise you up to newness of life by the same power that raised Jesus from the dead.
That is what the Bible teaches. It does not teach "trust in Jesus" and you then get the magic sin cloak and that God puts on the Jesus glasses so He cannot see you sin. That is superstitious nonsense that will lead you to hell because it negates the need for repentance and the crucifixion of the flesh. It totally throws it out the window.
Also you are not born with a sin nature. A sin nature develops over time through practiced habitual sin.
Sin is a choice, it is a moral choice. The flesh tempts you yes and that is why the passions and desires of the flesh must be crucified. True Christian's do not yield to the flesh, they are overcomers. They have suffered with Christ and ceased from sin. That is what the Bible teaches.
The sin nature doctrine is based off ancient gnostic philosophy and it was solidified into the Catholic Church by Augustine of Hippo in the fourth century. Look it up and don't be deceived by these lies.
Sin is not a disease. Sin is a choice.
If you do this you are not right with God.
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
You must do this...
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
It is all right there, clearly laid out by Paul. Paul is just teaching what Jesus taught.
You must lay aside all wickedness in repentance and turn back to God. God will then raise you up and empower you to walk in victory, He will cleanse your heart through the blood which you access through faith.
Salvation is not positional. Salvation is not an abstract package. Salvation is walking in victory in this world with Christ as you walk after the Spirit.
You cannot live according to the flesh like an animal as it makes you an enemy of God. God is calling us to yield to His Spirit and rule over the base instincts of the flesh. We are to love one another and not live like animals.
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