Will one of beast's 10 kings be a US leader?

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I don't really have an opinion at this point. Just wondering what others think.
I would think so given it’s power in the earth and Influence ( if these things come to pass in the next few hundred years otherwise America may not be what it is now )

I would say China , u.s. , Russia , and probably some of their rogue and Islamic Allies like Iran , Syria , India most likely also given thier population and power maybe rogues like North Korea will align with the beast also

ten of them will serve his Will but three of those ten will fall by his hand also there’s really a lot of scripture to consider sorry for the length but just offering some info biblically

“After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, …..; and of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell;

even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7:7-8, 19-22, 24-27‬ ‭

that’s extremely helpful for this

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

…and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:

and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1-3, 5-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:11-13, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

one clue is to identify the great whore who God swears to destroy for her adulteries throughout the Old Testament and how he would bring these nations against here to do exactly what it’s saying there leave her desolate and naked.

This helps because then we can identify those nations who are set to destroy her now days in the earth. Iran for sure I would suggest is included

eventually we have faith of victory d understanding of what the beasts role in the earth was

“And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭19:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;

and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭14:9-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we see how the beast and false prophet are deceivers and frauds who deceived with lies the people to serve the beast and worship the dragon who gave him power

and how the ten kings are just a part of the whole equation that will eventually unfold completely and fulfill his words foretold in the old testsment
 

montana123

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I don't really have an opinion at this point. Just wondering what others think.
The 10 horns are not 10 nations but the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section and the 10 horns hand their power over to the beast and that is how he gets control of the world.

When the one world government starts the world will be divided in to 10 sections which America, Canada, and Mexico will be one super nation.

Because of the world split in to ten sections it is easier to give the power to the beast than if there is 10 nations that hand their power over to the beast.

The only way the beast can have control of the whole world is if they are all involved not only 10 nations for the rest of the world would reject those 10 nations but if it involves the whole world then they are all involved so there is no resistance.

The beast wants to influence the whole world when he starts working in the world.

These people that are part of the plan are not dumb enough to have 10 nations that are the influence in the world but they want to involve the whole world when the beast starts working in the world.

The new age movement causes the world to rebel against God which interprets the Bible and all religions according to the occult and evolution and people are still evolving to be spiritual and godlike, and believe in no personal God which they are atheist, but spiritual.

When the world goes to a one world government the New Age Christ will start working in the world and he will push the new age movement until the world rebels against God which will be the time they will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but hear it according to their own lusts.

The new age movement does not believe the New Age Christ will help them to evolve and have peace until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth and that is why they want to involve the whole world not 10 nations.

The 10 leaders will have the same mindset as the New Age Christ and hand their power over to him and he gets control of the whole world.

All the kingdoms of the past believed in a higher power which they had their gods but these people have a different perspective on reality that there is no personal God and they are still evolving to be spiritual and godlike so they want to establish this reality in the world by a slow implementation.

That is why they took prayer out of school and started teaching evolution.

The book of Daniel says concerning the 10 horns that they shall devour the whole earth, tread it down, and break it in pieces.

If it were 10 nations the whole world would not onboard with it and how would they devour the whole earth with so much resistance but if the 10 horns are the world split in to 10 sections then they are all involved in it.

If it were 10 nations then they would have to by force cause the rest of the world to comply but that would go contrary to the new age movement that wants peace and harmony in the world and the one world government has to start off peacefully and good or it would never work.

The Bible says the new age movement is of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils and the devil wants to cause the world to rebel against God and try to cause as many souls to be lost as possible when they follow him so he wants the least resistance as possible to get as many people to follow him as possible which is a reason for why the devil wants the world to be together as one agreeing with each other and not 10 nations that many would resist.

The 10 horns is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section and the little horn comes after them which the 10 horns is the next kingdom to come which will rule for a short space three and one half years and then the New Age Christ will rule for three and one half years.
 

montana123

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The beast kingdom will be Islam.
The man of sin will be Islam.
The religion of Islam will fall before the beast kingdom.

How is Islam going to have that much power in the future.

America and Europe have their own plan going on that is to establish the new age movement in the world by by a slow implementation so how is the power of Islam going to go against that.

The new age movement will cause the world to rebel against God which interprets the Bible and all religions according to the occult and evolution and people are still evolving to be spiritual and godlike.

When the New Age Christ establishes peace in the Middle East he will be considered a great man of peace and the biggest player on the world scene and he will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

The new age movement is of the occult and evolution, and believe in no personal God but honor the God of forces or the power of nature as their higher power the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher.

This goes against the Islam belief that there is a God that created all things.

The New Age Christ will be of the new age movement.

God warns the saints of the new age movement(1 Timothy 4:1-5; 2 Timothy 4:2-4).

Also the Bible says that Babylon, and Persia which were Arab kingdoms will never have physical dominion again.

But the Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts down the world which 10 horns come from them which is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section and the little horn, New Age Christ comes from them.

Which the Bible says the prince to come will come from the people who overthrew Jerusalem which is the Roman Empire.

Islam is not the beast kingdom for the rest of the world would reject it and how would Islam ever get that much power for they would not get that much power.

The beast kingdom is referred to Babylon in spirit because Babylon will never have physical dominion again.

The beast kingdom is the kingdom of man influenced by the occult and Babylon represents the kingdom of man and the occult.

Daniel had a dream of 4 beasts which represents the 4 ways of people and even though all 4 kingdoms operated by all 4 ways 1 of those ways was their chief mode of operation.

Babylon represents human religion, the occult, the kingdom of man.

Medo-Persia represents physical cruelty in war.

Greece represents human wisdom.

The Roman Empire represents pushing for power, territory, world domination.

The Bible says that the first 3 beasts will never have physical dominion on earth which includes Babylon but their lives were prolonged for a season and time which means their ways are still on earth.

All 4 chief modes of operation show up at the beast kingdom for it is the kingdom of man in it's entirety with no minor mode of operation.

The beast kingdom referred to as Babylon is in spirit for Babylon will never have physical dominion again.

Islam is not the beast kingdom for the beast kingdom is of the occult, evolution, the kingdom of man, and no belief in a personal God.
 

JTB

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You may be right. If we go down it could trigger a chain reaction that could bring on the events of the tribulation.
The entire world runs on US dollars. Our economy fails, the rest of the world will fall like dominoes, clearing the way for a new world leader
 

douggg

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I don't really have an opinion at this point. Just wondering what others think.
No.

Because.....

The little horn person waxes strong toward the south and east, toward the pleasant land. Daniel 8:9.

So the person comes from Europe with a strong European based military. Maybe in alliance with the Ukraine (I am thinknig that maybe Zelensky could be that person). The ten kings are ten European leaders.

Okay, why is this all adding up?

Because....

Russia and along with some middle east muslim nations will make up Gog/Magog force to attack Israel. After which the 7 years of Daniel 9:27 begin, with the little horn person the perceived messiah.

Zelensky, a Jew, is making himself a world known figure in his opposition to the Russian invasion on Ukraine. He is appealing strongly to the Europeans for support. There has been a song written about him - "can one man save the world". I see the song as part of the image building of the person as being the thought to be messiah .

A bitter encounter with the Russians is harding him to be opposed to any Russian agression. In Ezekiel 38, God says He will put a hook in Gog's jaws and bring him down to attack Israel. We don't know exactly, but it could be that Russia enters or already is in a pack with some of the muslim nations - kinda like NATO. And that some near future event between the mulim nation(s) and Israel - will obligate the Russians to honor their part of the pact.

So now it appears players are being put into place.

For the Europeans, the incentive will be to be gain control of all the oil in post Gog/Magog. On the guise of being peacekeepers for the region.

We still have a ways to go to know exactly who is the little horn (Zelensky as this point is a keep an eye on) and who are those ten european leaders. But neither are a United States leader.
 

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one more question brother: how do you believe this will make poeple not be able to buy or sell? you cant buy or sell if you aren't muslim? or maybe you have to pay dhimmi tax?
Yes, they'll have to be Muslim or atleast pretend to be Muslim enough to fool people into thinking they are genuine Islam believers. They'll have to publicly worship the beast (the Islamic figure called the Mahdi) so that it's apparent they aren't hiding who their loyalty belongs to per Revelation 13:12 and 15.

There is a mark, a name, and a number of the beast.

Revelation 13:16,17
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Mark = could possibly be something known to Muslims as a prayer bump. It's a mark on the forehead of some Muslims, due to the friction generated by repeated contact of the forehead with the prayer mat during daily prayers. It comes from obsessively worhsipping.

Name = I believe the name of the beast is the bismillah. Bismillah translates in English to "In the name of Allah." Muslims wear that on their foreheads sometimes. It could also be on the right hand, too. There is a saying in Islam "Say Bismillah and eat with your right hand." Possibly connected to the the reference of the mark, name, or number being on the right hand.

Number = the number is definitely 666, most likely written in Greek, which John the Revelator confirms in Revelation.

Without any one or combination of these marks, they just can't buy or sell.
 

Runningman

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Yes, they'll have to be Muslim or atleast pretend to be Muslim enough to fool people into thinking they are genuine Islam believers. They'll have to publicly worship the beast (the Islamic figure called the Mahdi) so that it's apparent they aren't hiding who their loyalty belongs to per Revelation 13:12 and 15.

There is a mark, a name, and a number of the beast.

Revelation 13:16,17
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Mark = could possibly be something known to Muslims as a prayer bump. It's a mark on the forehead of some Muslims, due to the friction generated by repeated contact of the forehead with the prayer mat during daily prayers. It comes from obsessively worhsipping.

Name = I believe the name of the beast is the bismillah. Bismillah translates in English to "In the name of Allah." Muslims wear that on their foreheads sometimes. It could also be on the right hand, too. There is a saying in Islam "Say Bismillah and eat with your right hand." Possibly connected to the the reference of the mark, name, or number being on the right hand.

Number = the number is definitely 666, most likely written in Greek, which John the Revelator confirms in Revelation.

Without any one or combination of these marks, they just can't buy or sell.
I know there are different theories and ideas swirling in this thread. Basically just don't put anything on your right hand, forehead, or worship anyone but the God of the Bible, or ever deny the God of the Bible, and you'll have effectively avoided what Revelation warns about.

My question is.. when peoples' bellies are hungry and they are thirsty, in need of basic necesities, trying to provide for their family, and generally survive, can they keep the faith in Christ, and reject beast worship and the mark of servittude with the penalty of martyrdom?
 

montana123

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How is the religion of Islam going to attain to that much power to be able to influence the world for how will they convince the world to go along with their religion.

The beast has power over all nations, kindreds, and tongues, and how is Islam going to be able to do that.

The beast is only as powerful as the people that allow him to be powerful and how can the religion of Islam get the support of the entire world on their side.

Do people think the world will convert to Islam or do they think the religion of Islam is going to take the world by force.

It is the new age movement that interprets all religions according to the occult and evolution that will lead the world to the beast kingdom.

The Bible says that Babylon, and Persia will never have physical dominion again but the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts them down which will include all nations ruled by Caucasian nations.

The New Age Christ will influence the world with the new age movement and he claims to be God by evolving to be spiritual and godlike and will share this power with all people that follow him.

The occult believes in the power of numbers, and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers, which they believe will give them more power through nature, and 6 is the number of the soul of man so the New Age Christ assigned himself the number 666, a triple 6, because he believes it will give him more power through nature to establish his kingdom and rule over the world.

Islam is not going to prosper and they will go down.

The beast exalts himself above all that is called God or is worshipped so that means he will exalt himself above Allah and would Islam go along with that.

Daniel 11:36-38 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

The last king, beast, will not regard the God of his fathers, and will the religion of Islam stop acknowledging Allah and believe in no god but honor a man claiming to be God.

This is the new age movement belief system.
 

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anti christ - hmmmmmm..... verses please.... couldnt find that term used in REvelation.
 

douggg

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anti christ - hmmmmmm..... verses please.... couldnt find that term used in REvelation.
Hi Robertt, the term Antichrist is not in Revelation. People erroneously use the term generically for the arch villain of the end times, no matter what stage of his life he is in.

The person is not the Antichrist except for the around 3 years that he will be the King of Israel perceived messiah by the Jews. i.e. Anti-Christ. Jesus is the true Christ, the one God sent to be the King of Israel, but was rejected as such and crucified. King of Israel, coming in the name of the Lord is in John 12:12-15. "Christ the King of Israel" is in Mark 15:32.

So becoming the Antichrist is to be anointed the King of Israel, but coming in his own name.

In addition, the error made in referring to the person as the Antichrist would me similar to someone who was mayor, then became governor, then became president - to refer to him as mayor so-n-so while he is in the office of the president.


The sequence of the fuctional roles the arch villain person goes through is....

First as the little horn (leader of ten European kings), prior to the Gog/Magog event

then becomes the prince who shall come, following Gog/Magog

then becomes the Antichrist, by being anointed the King of Israel messiah by the false prophet

then the 7 years begin

then about 3 years later, becomes the revealed man of sin, which the Jews will then fire him as their King of Israel

then is killed and a few days later brought back to life, to become the beast in Revelation.

As the beast he will be dictator over the EU and world at that time.

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I am keeping an eye on Zelensky as maybe becoming that person. He is a Jew. Has come to the forefront in world news. And a song written about him - can one man save the world - (on you tube).
 

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The 10 horns is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section and the little horn comes after them which the 10 horns is the next kingdom to come which will rule for a short space three and one half years and then the New Age Christ will rule for three and one half years.
What the text of Daniel 7 actually says is that the ten horns are ten kings. It does not specify ten nations or ten sections of the world.

Since the little horn waxes strong to the south and east, toward the pleasant land in Daniel 8:9, he will come into the middle east with a army made up of European forces.

In Daniel 7:24, the ten kings are of the fourth kingdom - which was the Roman Empire. In the end times, the EU seems to fit the bill. The unit of the ten kings is still not materialized imo, but it could be soon, with Zelensky a possible candidate for the little horn person.
 

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I don't believe the USA is a player in the end times. I believe we have been removed from the world stage. That is why you see us circling the drain now. We're going down, and soon.
"Many people ask why the United States is not included in the prophecies of the end time. We explain the United States of America is, in fact, mentioned in Daniel 7:4 and in Revelation 12:14. In Daniel 7:1-8 there are four beasts depicted—a lion with eagle’s wings, a bear, a leopard with four heads, and a beast with 10 horns. Later in the seventh chapter, we are told that a beast symbolizes a nation or a kingdom. We can prove from the seventh chapter that the nations symbolized by the four beasts will all be on the earth at the time of the return of Jesus. The official animal symbol of Great Britain is the lion, as in Daniel 7:4. Russia’s official animal symbol is the bear, as in Daniel 7:5. The lion depicted in verse 4 has eagle’s wings. The official emblem of the United States is the eagle. Then in verse 4, the Bible says the wings were broken off from the lion, depicting America’s Declaration of Independence from Great Britain in 1776. Revelation 12:14 portrays the eagle protecting Israel during the Great Tribulation. The woman with 12 stars represents Israel. The 12 stars symbolize the 12 tribes of Israel...This teaches us that most nations will be a part of the kingdom of the Antichrist but America and Israel will stand together against the Antichrist." Excerpt from DayStar interview. https://www.daystar.com/news-updates/general-updates/revealing-the-end-of-the-age-with-irvin-baxter/
 

Wansvic

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Will one of the beast's 10 kings be a US leader?

No, I definitely don't believe that it will be.

However, I'm firmly convinced that the USA is the "another beast" or another kingdom of the book of Revelation.

I gave a rather thorough explanation of why I believe the same my first time through here as "Live4Him".

Here's a link to that post if you're interested in reading it:

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/is-god-giving-america-up.197885/page-2#post-4508933
It is my understanding the "another beast" referred in Rev. 13:11 is the false prophet. He looked like a lamb but spoke like a dragon and deceived many with miracles. (Rev 13:13-14) See Rev 19:20:

"And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." Rev 19:20
 

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I don't really have an opinion at this point. Just wondering what others think.
No one truly knows. We will all have to wait to see what is revealed when that particular set of events take place. Now, that doesn't mean some will pretend to know, so you should get some answers; but, they are nothing more than pure speculation..........
 

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"Many people ask why the United States is not included in the prophecies of the end time. We explain the United States of America is, in fact, mentioned in Daniel 7:4 and in Revelation 12:14. In Daniel 7:1-8 there are four beasts depicted—a lion with eagle’s wings, a bear, a leopard with four heads, and a beast with 10 horns. Later in the seventh chapter, we are told that a beast symbolizes a nation or a kingdom. We can prove from the seventh chapter that the nations symbolized by the four beasts will all be on the earth at the time of the return of Jesus. The official animal symbol of Great Britain is the lion, as in Daniel 7:4. Russia’s official animal symbol is the bear, as in Daniel 7:5. The lion depicted in verse 4 has eagle’s wings. The official emblem of the United States is the eagle. Then in verse 4, the Bible says the wings were broken off from the lion, depicting America’s Declaration of Independence from Great Britain in 1776. Revelation 12:14 portrays the eagle protecting Israel during the Great Tribulation. The woman with 12 stars represents Israel. The 12 stars symbolize the 12 tribes of Israel...This teaches us that most nations will be a part of the kingdom of the Antichrist but America and Israel will stand together against the Antichrist." Excerpt from DayStar interview. https://www.daystar.com/news-updates/general-updates/revealing-the-end-of-the-age-with-irvin-baxter/
Daniel 7:1-8,12 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.

2Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

3And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

Daniel had a dream of 4 kingdoms that were different from each other which are the 4 ways of people which all 4 kingdoms went by these 4 ways but 1 of those ways were their chief mode of operation where the other 3 ways were a minor mode of operation.

4The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

The first kingdom is Babylon which represents the occult, human religion, and the kingdom of man.

It had eagle's wings which means they had the revelation of God which king Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged the God of Israel as the greatest of all the gods and proclaimed throughout his kingdom that if anybody said anything against God that they would be cut in pieces and their house made a dunghill and his kingdom flourished.

His son took the throne and knew what his father believed but took the vessels out of the temple of the LORD and drank out of them praising false gods and the kingdom was stripped from them and given to the Medes and Persians.

The eagle's wings were plucked which they lost the revelation of God and then became known as the kingdom of man.

5And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

The second kingdom is Medo-Persia which represents human cruelty in war which it raised itself up on one side because the Persian influence was more dominant in that union.

It had 3 ribs in its mouth which probably represents 3 nations they conquered that became in league with them giving them more power and control.

6After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

The third kingdom is Greece which represent human wisdom which had 4 wings of a fowl which could mean they advanced more in modern medicine, science, philosophy, and things like that, and had 4 heads which when Alexander the Great died his kingdom was split in to 4 sections and a general ruled each section.

7After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron
teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.


Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

The fourth beast is the Roman Empire which represents pushing for power, territory, world domination.

They were different from the other 3 kingdoms because they were the most determined to conquer other nations and gain power and control which is why they are represented as iron.

The 10 horns is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section which they shall devour the whole earth which will be the time when the nations come together as a one world government and the new age religion the bond between them that interprets all religions according to the occult and evolution which they believe they are still evolving to be spiritual and godlike.

8I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

The little horn, New Age Christ, antichrist, comes from the 10 horns which comes from the Roman Empire which the prince to come will come from the people who overthrew Jerusalem which is the Roman Empire.

The New Age Christ will be of the new age movement and will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

12As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

Daniel 2:45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

The first 3 beasts will never have physical dominion again but their lives were prolonged for a time and a season which means their ways are still on earth.

All 4 kingdoms ways are still on earth and they show up at the beast kingdom in Revelation.

The Roman Empire does not lose their dominion until Jesus puts the world down.

Revelation 13:1-2 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Revelation 18: 1-2 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

All 4 kingdoms ways are at the beast kingdom which is the kingdom of man in its entirety.

It is the chief mode of operation of the 10 horns, Roman Empire, which represents pushing for power, territory, world domination, which the Roman Empire has the physical dominion that influenced the world with the new age movement interpretation of religions, Mystery Babylon.

It is the chief mode of operation of the lion, Babylon, which is the occult, human religion, and the kingdom of man.

It is the chief mode of operation of the bear, Medo-Persia, which represents physical cruelty in war which they will war against everyone that opposes them to try to get them off the earth.

It is the chief mode of operation of the leopard, Greece, which represents human wisdom.

All 4 kingdoms chief mode of operation are at the beast kingdom with no minor role of operation which is the kingdom of man in its entirety.

The beast kingdom is known as Babylon which is in spirit which Babylon will never have physical dominion again but the beast kingdom is of the occult, human religion, the kingdom of man.
 

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"Many people ask why the United States is not included in the prophecies of the end time. We explain the United States of America is, in fact, mentioned in Daniel 7:4 and in Revelation 12:14. In Daniel 7:1-8 there are four beasts depicted—a lion with eagle’s wings, a bear, a leopard with four heads, and a beast with 10 horns. Later in the seventh chapter, we are told that a beast symbolizes a nation or a kingdom. We can prove from the seventh chapter that the nations symbolized by the four beasts will all be on the earth at the time of the return of Jesus. The official animal symbol of Great Britain is the lion, as in Daniel 7:4. Russia’s official animal symbol is the bear, as in Daniel 7:5. The lion depicted in verse 4 has eagle’s wings. The official emblem of the United States is the eagle. Then in verse 4, the Bible says the wings were broken off from the lion, depicting America’s Declaration of Independence from Great Britain in 1776. Revelation 12:14 portrays the eagle protecting Israel during the Great Tribulation. The woman with 12 stars represents Israel. The 12 stars symbolize the 12 tribes of Israel...This teaches us that most nations will be a part of the kingdom of the Antichrist but America and Israel will stand together against the Antichrist." Excerpt from DayStar interview. https://www.daystar.com/news-updates/general-updates/revealing-the-end-of-the-age-with-irvin-baxter/
That's an interesting theory but I think it fails on 2 points.

I think we'd agree that the liberal cabal is a Godless legion that is deceiving the world and drawing it away from God's truths. But if you think Trump and the republicans are promoting Godly values, you are one of those spoken of in Matthew 24, 1st Timothy 4, Romans 16, 2nd Peter 2, and Mark 13 who are being deceived by false prophets coming in God's Name to deceive the elect. Without any true Christian moral compass to steer it, this nation will and is leaving the rails and will fail.

And beyond the 'religious' points, the right and left are leading this country into civil war, which in and of itself will take this country down.

Given the political and spiritual state of both sides of the aisle, there's no way this nation will stay viable and relevant in the end.
 

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That's an interesting theory but I think it fails on 2 points.

I think we'd agree that the liberal cabal is a Godless legion that is deceiving the world and drawing it away from God's truths. But if you think Trump and the republicans are promoting Godly values, you are one of those spoken of in Matthew 24, 1st Timothy 4, Romans 16, 2nd Peter 2, and Mark 13 who are being deceived by false prophets coming in God's Name to deceive the elect. Without any true Christian moral compass to steer it, this nation will and is leaving the rails and will fail.

And beyond the 'religious' points, the right and left are leading this country into civil war, which in and of itself will take this country down.

Given the political and spiritual state of both sides of the aisle, there's no way this nation will stay viable and relevant in the end.
I agree that many American citizens, regardless of political leaning, have and continue to stray from Godly principles. This is true for all countries throughout the world. The wheat and tares reside together. However, one thing that has not changed so far is America's support for the Nation of Israel. America has and will continue to be blessed in one form or another for standing with Israel because God honors His word above all. I think it's important to not lose sight of the fact that God uses whomever He wishes in order to fulfill His purposes.