Will you listen to what God has to say about OSAS? Just scriptures?

[royalscot]

70 ad.

god never sent a law, to save people under the law given to moses. he sent jesus.
so if you are born under this law, or think this law applies to you. then who saved you from sin.

and if sin gets it power from law, ware do you get your right actions from, because no one can follow this law after 70ad fully.
the value is in history to what god and jesus have already done.
yet you keep blowing up small bits of scripture , yet cant see history has proven religion/ and legalists wrong that rebuild law. because it pointless because you need a temple of stone.

may i remind you, most of the books and letters in the bible were wrote before 70 ad.
2 books were wrote after this.

 

[newbirth]

70 ad.

god never sent a law, to save people under the law given to moses. he sent jesus.
so if you are born under this law, or think this law applies to you. then who saved you from sin.

and if sin gets it power from law, ware do you get your right actions from, because no one can follow this law after 70ad fully.
the value is in history to what god and jesus have already done.
yet you keep blowing up small bits of scripture , yet cant see history has proven religion/ and legalists wrong that rebuild law. because it pointless because you need a temple of stone.

may i remind you, most of the books and letters in the bible were wrote before 70 ad.
2 books were wrote after this.

if there is no law then no one can be charged for sin ...so we are all become free from sins.... so what then is the purpose of Christ?? How can Christ save me from sin if there is no law to say I have sinned???

Romans 4:14-16King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,


you are looking at history and time line...God made his plan before the foundation of the earth
Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

you read well but your understanding level is questionable...some years ago you were born of God ..have you sinned since then???...I believe that answer would be yes....so is scripture lying???NO...we know from scripture.. that a man sins when he is drawn away by his own lust and enticed....It is from Christ he is drawn away....so it is clear one cannot sin in Christ...the seed is the word...if the word/seed remains in you then you cannot sin, because you are obeying the word...if you are drawn away from the word of God/Christ by your own lust...that is when you sin...

you still do not read well.

it says a man born of God does not sin. end of story, your twisting of the word to suit your own belief is not going to help you. The form in the greek is present tense continual sin, it means a man born of God can not live in habitual sin, it is not because of something he has done, or how great he is, it is because of what John said, The spirit of God empowers him, so he can not sin.

learn to read, and stop excusing your own sinfulness while you judge others!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

if there is no law then no one can be charged for sin ...so we are all become free from sins.... so what then is the purpose of Christ?? How can Christ save me from sin if there is no law to say I have sinned???

wow, You just posted the gospel. Why can't you understand it.

if we are under law. then we are condemned. (thus the law is our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ)

God freed us from the law (thus we are saved)



that is what salvation is, and why God becomes our daddy (Abba) and not the judge jury and executioner (like he will be for those still under law, because they have not been SAVED By The death of Christ, which freed us from the dondemnation of the law

 

[royalscot]

if there is no law then no one can be charged for sin ...so we are all become free from sins.... so what then is the purpose of Christ?? How can Christ save me from sin if there is no law to say I have sinned???

Romans 4:14-16King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,


you are looking at history and time line...God made his plan before the foundation of the earth
Romans 8:2
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

acts 15 what law. dose a gentile have. so are you trying to follow the law fully.
don t you read.your still to answer an other post i posted to you.

when was romans wrote,

your blindness is clear again, how can anyone go in to the future and bring back something that has not happened or use a tool' machine that has not been invented yet, in the future.

70 ad happened after romans was wrote.

for example elijah jumped on a fighter plane and went back to heaven.

i hope you see, what i am trying to show you. regarding the law.


18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.1


now take up what all men means with the writer of romans.

 

[forsha]

That is dangerously false teaching as there is only way gate that believers rather Jew or Gentile can go through, and that is through our Lord Jesus Christ. By believing in Him and following what He said.
If a person is walking in the wide gate they are lost and headed for spiritual death in the lake of fire, and not eternal life.

So, do you believe that there will only be a few that will be in heaven? As I ended this question, I recalled that you are coc and you believe only those who become members of the coc will be in heaven. I was once a member of the coc and was even a deacon, but I never did believe their false doctrine. I believe that the scriptures teach that those who populate heaven will be counted as the stars of heaven and the sand which is upon the seashore, Gen 22:17, and they will be those that God gave to his Son to redeem from this world and that everyone that he died for will live with him in heaven, without the loss of even one, John 6:39.

 

[forsha]

both these scripture are besides the point

you want to believe that all your future sins are already forgiven....and talk about reward and post scripture that have nothing to do with the issue
2 Corinthians 12:21
And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.

2 Cor 12:21 is not talking about Christ coming again, but it is Paul telling the church at Corinth what Paul is going to do.