Woe unto the 'church'!

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I would never rip some bodies hair out. I might go through the 'church' with a bull whip however. I jest. Smile.

The fire is in my bones. I've seen this fraud and theft for decades. For decades my tongue cleaved to the roof of my mouth. God has finally given me a green light to shout His word from the house top, no longer keep it under a bushel.

Someone has to stand up for the poor families and the struggling widows. If I get slammed for it, I take it on the chin as an honor. I'm telling you that God is not going to let this go unanswered forever.
I started out alone with Jesus and if I have to fight all of Christendom alone, I will. My wife and I stand alone unto this day. I know of many brothers and sisters that God has awakened for this hour but they are all in other states. Long distances.
Please at least consider the scriptures I submit. I am but a worm. But his word is truth. He's not going to change His mind about the consequences of abusing the poor in this manner any time soon so you may as well start agreeing with Him!
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Isaiah 10:1-2. Woe unto them that decree unrighteousness decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed;
To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of My people, that widows might be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless. Welcome to churchianity! Den of unashamed thieves! Devouring wolves with no natural affection, no conscience!

If you are tithing, you are sinning. You need to repent. And if you have no problem with the widows and poor tithing you are a monster. Repent now!
God owns your money, not an exalted hireling.
Wolves took over about 1700 years ago, as Paul said they would, and have been in control ever since.

The 'pastor' eats steak and plays golf while the widows and poor dig under the car seat for change. I know. I was forced to live like that while paying tithes for over 20 years. Living out of thrift stores, sweating bullets walking down the grocery isle because of little money after paying tithes. My kids still haven't forgiven me for that foolishness.
God told me to stop with the lie of the tithe and give as He leads me, mainly to the poor. Been blessed beyond belief ever since.

Ive talked to others that have tithed for over 30 years while the windows of heaven remained shut.

God was talking about rain on the crops, not money.

Stop tithing now. Quit sinning against Christ! Follow Him as He leads you to help those that need help, not those title bearing Pharisees that live in opulence off the widows! Being lavished with the praise of men, being adored while seated in the upper chamber(podium).
whether you choose to tithe or not it is certainly -not- a sin to tithe! you have gone so far off the deep end that you are calling good things evil...

and furthermore now you are not only accusing pastors and gospel ministers...you are also accusing everyone who chooses to tithe... if you cannot give cheerfully that is between you and God...but you don't get to go around accusing all of the people who -are- cheerful givers that God loves...
 

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8) 1 Corinthians 16:2: “Upon the first day of the week let every one of you
lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him.…”

Often we see this text printed on the little offering envelopes in the pews of popular
churches, and we have been told that this text sets the first day of the week as the time
for taking up the church collection for the carrying on of God’s work, paying the minister, etc.

the true intended meaning of this verse is not money.

“Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia,
even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store,
as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.”

This speaks of a collection—but for whom—for what? Note it! Not for the preacher
—not for evangelism—but “the collection for the saints.” The poor saints at Jerusalem
were suffering from drought and famine. They needed, not money, but food.

Notice Paul had given similar instruction to other churches.
his instruction to the Romans:

“But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints. For it hath pleased them
of Macedonia and Achaia [where the Corinthian church was located] to make a certain
contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem.
When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit,
I will come by you into Spain” (Romans 15:25-28).

It was not money, but fruit that was being sealed for shipment to the poor saints at Jerusalem!
(The Greek word can also refer to grain, wine, and other produce which can be stored a long time without spoiling.)

Now turn back to 1?Corinthians 16. Paul is speaking concerning a collection for the saints.
Upon the first day of the week each one of them is instructed to do what? Look at it!
Does it say drop a coin in the collection plate at a church service? Not at all!

It says, “[L]et every one of you lay by him in STORE.” Note it! Lay by! Store up!
Store up by himself—at home! Not lay by at the church house—lay by him—at home.

Now why? “[T]hat there be no gatherings when I come.” Men gather fruit out of the orchard
—they gather vegetables out of the ground, to be stored up. But putting coins in a collection
plate at church, or handing in your tithe envelope could not be called a gathering,
but an offering or collection.

Notice further: “And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters,
them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem. And if it be meet that I go also,
they [more than one] shall go with me” (verses 3-4).

Apparently it was going to require several men to carry this collection, gathered and stored up,
to Jerusalem. If it were tithe or offering for the minister or the spread of the gospel,
Paul could have carried the money alone.

in the Bible where we find “the first day of the week” mentioned, it is a workday,
—a day for gathering fruit and food out of the orchards and the fields and gardens,
and storing it up. It was to be the first labor of the week, hence the first day of the week,
as soon as the Sabbath was past!
 
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tanach

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tourist lol I reckon some TV Preacher could squeeze a couple of limos out of that.
 

Yet

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We've all been lied to about another piece of scripture. John 10:10. The thief comes not, but for to steal, kill, and destroy.....

This is always taken out of context by pastors who tell us that we should never take a verse out of context. The thieves are hirelings. Go read the chapter. Hirelings are salaried individuals that 'lord it over His heritage.' Not a nice thing to do.
They steal your money through the devilish tithe, they kill your spirit with wrested scripture and the clerical/laity construct, they destroy your walk with God as He would want it.
Read it in context then weep.
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KohenMatt

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I won't go into details, but......

You know those 2 little buttons at the bottom of a post where you can add reputation or report the post?

I pushed one of 'em.
 

Yet

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Jeremiah 5:31 the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means (hire on for money) , and My people love to have it so.....

10:21 for the pastors are become brutish(dull hearted) and have not sought the Lord.....

15:10 woe is me, my mother that has borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! .......everyone of them doth curse me!
 

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Exodus 23:2 thou shall not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shall thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment.
In other words, don't follow the crowd in lies and false doctrine, just because you are out numbered. Stand for God's truth, even if you must stand alone.