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Oh, Yeah? Then why aren't you going into every hospital you can, and "by the fruit your lips" commanding everyone to be healed? Why aren't you raising the dead by the "fruit of your lips"?
Why can't you command everyone who comes against you to be mute by the "fruit of your lips"?
Are you a millionaire? Why not? Cannot you command wealth by the "fruit of your lips"?
Why can't you command everyone who comes against you to be mute by the "fruit of your lips"?
Are you a millionaire? Why not? Cannot you command wealth by the "fruit of your lips"?
Actually it's not God our Father, or Jesus doing the work, or even the Holy Spirit doing the bidding of the one issuing the command, but a seed of and from them.
So technically we're not commanding God to do anything but we are with His seed, because it is the word of God we are both sending and instructing, not God Himself.
When one is born again, they do not receive God Himself, but a seed OF and FROM God.
We receive this seed through the gospel, when we believe and accept by faith.
This seed is referred to as a type of plant, and our heart is referred to as a type of soil.
The seed grows and eventually produces fruit.
If you received seed that you can cast out an evil spirit, then it is the seed itself that goes forth and causes your words to be with power and casts the stench out, even as it was with Jesus, because you are sending His word of Power. In this sense we are made partakers of His divine nature.
One of the laws of Genesis is that everything produces after its own kind, and so it is with a seed that comes from the Spirit of God, who is the power of God, for He IS the Word of God, then His seed will be just like Him and be with power.
Did Jesus Himself create all things?
No, He did not.
What about God the Father?
Nope, not Him either.
Then surely the Holy Spirit did, right?
No, again.
When two nations go to war, who takes the credit for winning it?
The leader of that nation.
But were they the actual ones doing the fighting that won the war?
No.
What about erecting a building.
Who get is the glory for putting it up, the workers or the head person?
And so it is with God.
The actual one doing the work is the word of God.
Remember that the word of God is spirit and life. It is alive and full of power, even as Jesus' word was with power.
Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Everything is done by the word/SEED of and from God.
Psa 107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.
Wherever the word/seed of God goes, God goes, and whatever it does, He does, and whatever happens to the seed, happens to Him.
That is why Jesus asked Paul why He was persecuting HIM and not the church saying, "why are you persecuting ME?"
Matt 25:34-46 is a perfect example of that.
And so it is not us commanding God Himself to do anything, but a seed or offspring of and from Him.
So technically we're not commanding God to do anything but we are with His seed, because it is the word of God we are both sending and instructing, not God Himself.
When one is born again, they do not receive God Himself, but a seed OF and FROM God.
We receive this seed through the gospel, when we believe and accept by faith.
This seed is referred to as a type of plant, and our heart is referred to as a type of soil.
The seed grows and eventually produces fruit.
If you received seed that you can cast out an evil spirit, then it is the seed itself that goes forth and causes your words to be with power and casts the stench out, even as it was with Jesus, because you are sending His word of Power. In this sense we are made partakers of His divine nature.
One of the laws of Genesis is that everything produces after its own kind, and so it is with a seed that comes from the Spirit of God, who is the power of God, for He IS the Word of God, then His seed will be just like Him and be with power.
Did Jesus Himself create all things?
No, He did not.
What about God the Father?
Nope, not Him either.
Then surely the Holy Spirit did, right?
No, again.
When two nations go to war, who takes the credit for winning it?
The leader of that nation.
But were they the actual ones doing the fighting that won the war?
No.
What about erecting a building.
Who get is the glory for putting it up, the workers or the head person?
And so it is with God.
The actual one doing the work is the word of God.
Remember that the word of God is spirit and life. It is alive and full of power, even as Jesus' word was with power.
Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
2Pe 3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
2Pe 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Everything is done by the word/SEED of and from God.
Psa 107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.
Wherever the word/seed of God goes, God goes, and whatever it does, He does, and whatever happens to the seed, happens to Him.
That is why Jesus asked Paul why He was persecuting HIM and not the church saying, "why are you persecuting ME?"
Matt 25:34-46 is a perfect example of that.
And so it is not us commanding God Himself to do anything, but a seed or offspring of and from Him.
What is written? That is what matters.
You obviously don't have any understanding of how this works, and it would be fruitless for me to explain it again, seeing you have closed your ears.
I certainly have not attained what I desire, but I still believe.
Do you know why?
Unlike you, it is because I believe what is written regardless of what doesn't happen in the natural, and I am proud to be a believer in God, instead of having an EVIL heart of unbelief.
Because I believe, it shall come to pass.
Maybe not today, but the things I send the word of faith to do, shall not come back to me void, but accomplish that which I please and prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Because it is the word of God I am sending.
Honestly though, you people sound like anti-bible trolls.
When I say something, I back it up with scripture, as I let the word of God be my truth, so why don't you?
Why do you unbelievers ALWAYS point to the natural as to why you're right and those who believe are wrong.
I have given testimonies of various things that have happened BECAUSE of our faith, only for it to fall on deaf ears and then to be called a liar.
Try driving a car with no gas. Does that constitute as a miracle for word of faith?
Healing?
Absolutely.
Every time?
No, but at least I know it works for me, because I believe what is written instead of what all you naturalist doubters believe in.
I show you scripture.
You don't believe it because I'm perverting, you say.
I ask you, how am I perverting scripture when I'm QUOTING the exegesis of those who wrote the bible?
Some of you are in such a sad state.
You obviously don't have any understanding of how this works, and it would be fruitless for me to explain it again, seeing you have closed your ears.
I certainly have not attained what I desire, but I still believe.
Do you know why?
Unlike you, it is because I believe what is written regardless of what doesn't happen in the natural, and I am proud to be a believer in God, instead of having an EVIL heart of unbelief.
Because I believe, it shall come to pass.
Maybe not today, but the things I send the word of faith to do, shall not come back to me void, but accomplish that which I please and prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Because it is the word of God I am sending.
Honestly though, you people sound like anti-bible trolls.
When I say something, I back it up with scripture, as I let the word of God be my truth, so why don't you?
Why do you unbelievers ALWAYS point to the natural as to why you're right and those who believe are wrong.
I have given testimonies of various things that have happened BECAUSE of our faith, only for it to fall on deaf ears and then to be called a liar.
Try driving a car with no gas. Does that constitute as a miracle for word of faith?
Healing?
Absolutely.
Every time?
No, but at least I know it works for me, because I believe what is written instead of what all you naturalist doubters believe in.
I show you scripture.
You don't believe it because I'm perverting, you say.
I ask you, how am I perverting scripture when I'm QUOTING the exegesis of those who wrote the bible?
Some of you are in such a sad state.
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it seems they didn't get the memo
I will let you in on a little secret tho...
they try to do these things all the time with no results and then excuse the failure to create miracles by saying someone somewhere did not have enough faith, faith or the right kind of faith
people die listening to this garbage
see, we are supposed to feed the poor, look after orphans and widows, visit the sick and so on. it seems the new prophets with direct revelation from God now apart from scripture, demand that you only make a move if you have a vision or hear from God or possibly one of the new prophets
this is in direct conflict with scripture...but of course new revelations are the directive now (honestly you have to understand the mindset or you will not understand the strange responses)
scripture already commands...does not suggest...how Christians should behave and what they should do. no new revealtion is needed and Jesus is not going to come down and tell you to do what He already told you to do
obedience to the word is boring. now, we need revelations and visions and dreams to do what we are told to do anyway
Where have I heard something like that before?
Oh, yeah: "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:5)
You would do well to remember this:
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9)
Oh, yeah: "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:5)
You would do well to remember this:
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9)
This is new. You appear to be saying you are a god, able to command things.
If you truly believe this, is the whole of creation at your command and how have you shown
that is is true.
Peter, a mere apostle of Jesus, said this to the beggar at the temple gate called Beautiful
"In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk." Taking him by the right hand, he helped him up, and instantly the man's feet and ankles became strong.
Acts 3:6-7
If Peter only healed through Jesus, how have you got a greater authority than him?
I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven.
Matthew 18:18-19
It sounds like you are outside the spiritual authority of Jesus.
Are you a follower of Jesus's eternal words? Or is there an exception clause?
And of what value is this command authority? Is it like marvel comics, to get you out
of trouble and squash the enemy? Ever read Peter
To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
"He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth."
When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly.
He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed.
1 Peter 2:21-24
How would the people of God walk this road if they had command authority?
Not likely. The anger of many would just take them over.
If you truly believe this, is the whole of creation at your command and how have you shown
that is is true.
Peter, a mere apostle of Jesus, said this to the beggar at the temple gate called Beautiful
"In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk." Taking him by the right hand, he helped him up, and instantly the man's feet and ankles became strong.
Acts 3:6-7
If Peter only healed through Jesus, how have you got a greater authority than him?
I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven.
Matthew 18:18-19
It sounds like you are outside the spiritual authority of Jesus.
Are you a follower of Jesus's eternal words? Or is there an exception clause?
And of what value is this command authority? Is it like marvel comics, to get you out
of trouble and squash the enemy? Ever read Peter
To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
"He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth."
When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly.
He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed.
1 Peter 2:21-24
How would the people of God walk this road if they had command authority?
Not likely. The anger of many would just take them over.
Sir, as I said, I am not God, as you say, but I am His son, and as His son I have certain rights, and one of those rights is to SPEAK God's word, even as He spoke them. I have a right to agree with the promises He made to me, and to all who received Jesus as their lord and savior, and the work He did for them on the cross. To me, that covers a lot of ground.
The bible tells us to be like Jesus, following His examples, and one of those examples is speaking what God said in faith saying like Jesus, "It is written..."
And when we speak TO or AT something, as it is written in Mk 11:23, it obviously is directed at, and therefore sent TO, a particular thing or event.
Are you telling me that I don't have any right to cast an evil spirit out of anyone because I'm not an apostle?
Or that I can't believe for the supernatural because miracles went with the apostles?
Or that I can't ask and EXPECT God to answer my prayer with a YES?
I'm just doing what I can to be a DOER OF GOD'S WORD. As in, faith without corresponding works is dead.
That's all.
The bible tells us to be like Jesus, following His examples, and one of those examples is speaking what God said in faith saying like Jesus, "It is written..."
And when we speak TO or AT something, as it is written in Mk 11:23, it obviously is directed at, and therefore sent TO, a particular thing or event.
Are you telling me that I don't have any right to cast an evil spirit out of anyone because I'm not an apostle?
Or that I can't believe for the supernatural because miracles went with the apostles?
Or that I can't ask and EXPECT God to answer my prayer with a YES?
I'm just doing what I can to be a DOER OF GOD'S WORD. As in, faith without corresponding works is dead.
That's all.
