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Magenta

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A reasonable assessment of someone who prophecies in the name of Jesus, is that that individual supposed the basics of declaring Jesus as Lord and believing that God raised Jesus from the dead. If they did not believe in these basics, they would never have prophesied in Jesus' name in the first place.
And yet Jesus never knew them, which means they did not belong to Him. Perhaps it is best not to assume what the text does not say. For all we know they were prophesying in Jesus' name for their own ego's sake. Satan masquerades/disguises himself as an angel of light.
 

luigi

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He NEVER knew them . Thats the point .
That is the point. Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, who is Love (1 John 4:8 & 16) will declare never having known them.
This is the same as saying that Love never knew them, and therefore these individuals never knew Love, either for God/Love, or for their neighbor, and thus were believers in their worldly carnal inclinations, being workers of iniquity.
 

luigi

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And yet Jesus never knew them. Perhaps it is best not to assume what the text does not say. For all we know they were prophesying in Jesus' name for their own ego's sake.
It is unlikely that there will be a large number of individuals who will respond to the Lord God who knows everything trying to convince Him of a lie that they knew was their own ego. More likely by the context of the passage, these individuals will have believed they were righteous by prophesying in the Lord's name, and doing all manner of good works, and casting out demons, but in their hearts were never truly believers in God/Love, and thus Love/God will declare never to have known them.
 

Magenta

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It is unlikely that there will be a large number of individuals who will respond to the Lord God who knows everything trying to convince Him of a lie that they knew was their own ego. More likely by the context of the passage, these individuals will have believed they were righteous by prophesying in the Lord's name, and doing all manner of good works, and casting out demons, but in their hearts were never truly believers in God/Love, and thus Love/God will declare never to have known them.
False teachers abound... as do nominal Christians. Narrow is the way which leads unto life, and few there be that find it.
 

throughfaith

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That is the point. Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, who is Love (1 John 4:8 & 16) will declare never having known them.
This is the same as saying that Love never knew them, and therefore these individuals never knew Love, either for God/Love, or for their neighbor, and thus were believers in their worldly carnal inclinations, being workers of iniquity.
That literally is gobbledygook. He NEVER knew them. Being known would mean they were believers in Jesus.
 

luigi

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That literally is gobbledygook. He NEVER knew them. Being known would mean they were believers in Jesus.
Being known by Jesus the only begotten son of God who is love, means that Love who is God knew them, and they knew love. This is very basic common sense reasoning. How can this be so far beyond so manys comprehension?
 

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No many Christians begin in the spirit and then are trying to be made perfect in the flesh . Paul said this is foolish .
Gal 3 .
2This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

if you are testing things in your own life and learning from God and the Spirit then this is good. we are each at different places Spiritually so may see things differently. don't get stuck where you are at though.