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awelight

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God's plan to redeem His creation continues to go forward to it's successful completion ever since He initiated it in Genesis chapter one.
He will use anyone, anywhere, at anytime, to continue His will.
My giving goes to those who Holy Spirit gives guidance, as we are ALL to do.
Giving should not be a work of hands, leaning on our own understanding.
best wishes
So does Satan.... if God allows.
 

awelight

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Do you have an issue with hate?
The Scriptures clearly teach, that true born again believers, should hate what God hates. Psalm 109:104, 113, 128 & 163; Luke 14:26, Rev. 2:6.
 

Edify

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The Scriptures clearly teach, that true born again believers, should hate what God hates. Psalm 109:104, 113, 128 & 163; Luke 14:26, Rev. 2:6.
True, but haven't you heard? God so loves the world!
 

glen55

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It's a worry that can't follow itself that doesn't actually need to judge others, you are like all male and females that all have one father, some hard grace and mercy is by man who are great born of woman where called least to least man in heaven that's in us which is no longer at least belief ( faith) in nothing impossible to Spirit that also having one spirit Father/Mother teaching children that Imagination as always been creation of good and evil working together that is Action on this earth to experience impossible to possible, flesh and Spirit fight each other that one needs judgment the other never. So the need to judge others is hard to not while still trusting flesh just might be 99 but missed 1 being rich or any other things that feeds fear or anger and filling better than other flesh who certain spirit children still dout Spirit, that can forgive only 99.
 

awelight

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True, but haven't you heard? God so loves the world!
This is true. If it were not for God's love, there would be no Salvation at all.

I don't hate Copeland personally. He is just a blind guide, as are we all apart from God's Grace.

However, I hate his Doctrine and his ministry because I know God hates what he teaches. For God loves His Truth and those who abide in it.
 

Nehemiah6

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It is extremely sad that the world has to witness the likes of Copeland (and other prosperity preachers who have disgraced the Gospel). But each one will give account for himself.
 
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Do you have an issue with hate?
Copeland is clearly a wolf.Is it because I don't want to attend a church service?My nearby town is riddled with satanist.everyone of the churches have them running them.I've seen this from east to west.My father is one of them, and I was forced to attend some of their secret get togethers while the blind sheep, are above not knowing what is happening before their feet.
They control what is being preached.And is milk at best.
Your real teacher is the Holy Spirit and the word of God.Fellowship is nice, and is needed to have a fuller understanding of the word.
Most people attend churches though, and their understanding is nowhere near what a true prophet of God knows of.
That's why they barely have any followers.
There is nothing new under the sun.
So no.I don't have any issues with hate.Just have some understanding.
God's placed me in the furnace of affliction so I can come out like pure silver.
Growth takes time.I'm still young.
 
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Avery

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A lot of preachers like Copeland and Benny Hinn won't do interviews except maybe with their pals a TBN or It's Supernatural with Sid Roth, in a very controlled environment. Copeland deserves whatever he gets. He didn't have to talk to her, but his massive ego wouldn't let him let it go.
Yes I can't disagree with the controlled environment scenario and don't get me started on Sid Roth. But I find all of it so sad. Do they even know Christ apart from their phony miracles and such? I would not be so quick to state that Copeland deserves whatever he gets though. The same can be said about most of us I would think, were it not for the mercy of God. We seem to have a problem keeping ourselves out of trouble without Him.

Perhaps in cases like this, we might do well to remember who we were or were not before we accepted Christ. I am not making excuses for any of them though. They seem to have traded in the truth of our Savior for the dollar and it will not save them.
 
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I can't stand this guy,and those like him.never was into bigger preachers, since I've known from the start of being born again,to stay away from the churches.
If you don't mind, do you mean stay away from churches in general or churches such as Copeland's?
 

ResidentAlien

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Yes I can't disagree with the controlled environment scenario and don't get me started on Sid Roth. But I find all of it so sad. Do they even know Christ apart from their phony miracles and such? I would not be so quick to state that Copeland deserves whatever he gets though. The same can be said about most of us I would think, were it not for the mercy of God. We seem to have a problem keeping ourselves out of trouble without Him.

Perhaps in cases like this, we might do well to remember who we were or were not before we accepted Christ. I am not making excuses for any of them though. They seem to have traded in the truth of our Savior for the dollar and it will not save them.
It's this kind of tolerance and excuse making that has allowed people like Copeland to prosper. I'm not saying I'm perfect but I don't cut him any slack. When thinking about all the gullible people he and others like him have robbed and led astray it makes me want to throw up.
 

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Copeland has bound the COVID devil a few times now and each time he says "It's done!" I guess someone keeps going behind him and loosing it.

Doesn't seem like a sound investment.
Well as Rod Serling once said (paraphrase), you can catch the devil, but you can't hold him for long.
 
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If you don't mind, do you mean stay away from churches in general or churches such as Copeland's?
I don't attend any church."When God says come out of her my people" he means the world,including the churches.
 
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Avery

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It's this kind of tolerance and excuse making that has allowed people like Copeland to prosper. I'm not saying I'm perfect but I don't cut him any slack. When thinking about all the gullible people he and others like him have robbed and led astray it makes me want to throw up.
Well don't misunderstand me. I make no excuses but it is not good to judge hearts. I fear my own would be condemned before what seems obvious since I know better and I knew better.

I have no problem pointing out the false and indeed, I believe scripture instructs us to do so. And yes I know how angry Paul was and the things he said against those who twisted the truth. Gullible people are a problem. Why is that?

You do know what scripture states about itching ears? Are these false teachers not sent out to scratch those ears? If not sent out, then what? (I am actually asking because the more I see, the more I could be in pain for all the falseness and those who seem to delight in the lies)

I am thinking of this:
Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? 6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, 10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
II Thessalonians

Here God sends delusions. Give the people what they want. Says the same in Romans. God gives people over but yet we also know that He takes no delight in the death of the wicked.

I won't deny I am pretty introspective but it seems to me that things are being put on display and those with eyes to see and ears to hear are looking up and wondering. It is not the close of the age but I think possibly the curtains are being disturbed.

Listen. I totally understand what you are saying and I have no judgement for what you say.
 
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Avery

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I don't attend any church."When God says come out of her my people" he means the world,including the churches.
I understand how you might be feeling. I have been quite disappointed in 'churches' myself. How about other believers in Christ? Do you totally stay away from everyone?
 
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I'm not calling myself a prophet of God.I've seen A few of them on Youtube.They never have a big following.
 

CS1

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The Scriptures clearly teach, that true born again believers, should hate what God hates. Psalm 109:104, 113, 128 & 163; Luke 14:26, Rev. 2:6.
Doesn't hate Copeland he hoping he will repent and do what is right as HE does you and I :) Nowhere in the word of God does it say you are to hate your brother :) even the ones you don't like :)
 

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The correct answer is not "donating".
The correct answer is "giving".

People, usually Christians, want to give, but can get "tied up" over-thinking the process.

Alway remember..... everything you have, including your life, belongs to God.
Your money.
Your family.
Your breath.

So, when you "give", you are actually giving God's resources, as you own none of it....... God is only allowing you to use HIS prosperity.
Never think your money is "Mine"....."its all mine"...
YOU are a steward of what GOD has allowed you to USE< and you are nothing more, in this regard.
REALIZE.......its all HIS, if you are born again, and you are being giving USE of what God's owns.

Now, if you have issues with being greedy, or if you have issues with "where do i give, how do i give"...

Then just find a poor person and give.
Jesus said...."you'll always have the poor with you"......so, there is the best place you can give.
Give to the poor, and dont think about it, as its God money, and He would have them have it.

"but what if".....>"but what if"..
NO.
Do not think like that........
Think like this..... "they are outside". "they are sleeping on concrete, and hard cold ground".

You dont have to wonder if they need your help.
They have the SIGN, and you have the MONEY.
Do you SEE IT?
Its not hard to see....if you will just open your heart.
 

CS1

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Copeland is clearly a wolf.Is it because I don't want to attend a church service?My nearby town is riddled with satanist.everyone of the churches have them running them.I've seen this from east to west.My father is one of them, and I was forced to attend some of their secret get togethers while the blind sheep, are above not knowing what is happening before their feet.
They control what is being preached.And is milk at best.
Your real teacher is the Holy Spirit and the word of God.Fellowship is nice, and is needed to have a fuller understanding of the word.
Most people attend churches though, and their understanding is nowhere near what a true prophet of God knows of.
That's why they barely have any followers.
There is nothing new under the sun.
So no.I don't have any issues with hate.Just have some understanding.
God's placed me in the furnace of affliction so I can come out like pure silver.
Growth takes time.I'm still young.
please show where Jesus hated the Prodigal son? Or the Centurian? Or the Samaritan women who have Adulterios? I will wait?
 
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I understand how you might be feeling. I have been quite disappointed in 'churches' myself. How about other believers in Christ? Do you totally stay away from everyone?
Of course not.I love talking about God to believers.That's how we are to do things. Nobody will have full understanding of the word.not even the prophets.People here have helped me out in getting a better understanding of scripture.
Like I've said.I'm very young.There's a lot to learn.
When talking to people from where I'm from .Some love the things I share that the Lord has revealed to me.Others wont even take it in.
Either way.God will work his ways.