Yeshua in the Old Testament

GandalfTheWhite · May 6, 2015

Yeshua's (our high priest) clothes was never torn but Caiaphas the high priest of the Jews torn his clothes (against the Torah)

Lev 21:10 And he that is the high priest among his brethren, upon whose head the anointing oil was poured, and that is consecrated to put on the garments, shall not uncover his head, nor rend his clothes;

Joh 19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.

Heb 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

dcontroversal · May 6, 2015

When Jesus said, "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: for they are they which testify of me." <-----he was speaking of the O.T. because the N.T. had not yet been written!

Jeff_56 · May 6, 2015

as written in Joel, Yahweh's WORD, (as the veil was torn from top to bottom; so too rend your heart/ the heart(of man) ) (for consideration, meditation, prayer, life, and searching out the truth)

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And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. Holman
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Joel 2:13 NRSV - rend your hearts and not your clothing. - Bible ...
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rend your hearts and not your clothing. Return to the LORD, your God, for he is
gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast.
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Joel 2:13 ESV - and rend your hearts and not your - Bible Gateway
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and rend your hearts and not your garments.” Return to the LORD your God, for
he is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in.
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Joel 2:13 AMP - Rend your hearts and not your garments - Bible ...
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Rend your hearts and not your garments and return to the Lord, your God, for He
is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in.

GandalfTheWhite · May 11, 2015

We are busy studying Joseph and here are some interesting things to consider:

1) Joseph was tempted 3 times by Potiphar's wife. He did not give in to the temptation but was falsely accused directly after the third attempt (the tactics of Satan never change).

2) Joseph was in jail with the butler and the baker. One was saved the other one was killed. Yeshua was on the cross with two thieves next to him. One received life and the other one was condemned to everlasting death.

MarcR · May 11, 2015

GandalfTheWhite said:

This is the meaning of the names in Genesis 5 (I have posted it before):

ADAM– “man” / “mankind” (Root word “Adamah” which means “earth”
SET – “Appointed” / “Appointed another seed”
ENOSH – “Mortal” / “Being Mortal” from the Hebrew Root word “Anash”
KENAN – “Sorrow”
MAHALALEL – Consists of two Hebrew words:“Mahalal” which means “Blessed’ / “Praised” and “EL” which means God. The name thus means: “Blessed/Praised of YHVH”
YERED – “Shall Descend” / “Shall come down”
CHANOCH (ENOCH) – means “teaching” “To teach/instruct people”
MATUSHELACH – consists of two Hebrew words:
Met – which means “death”
Shelach – which means “Shall bring forth” Put them together and it reads “Death shall bring forth”
LAMECH–“Despairing” / “Those in despair”
NOACH– “Comfort” / “Rest”

Together: “Man/Mankind appointed mortal sorrow. The blessed/praised of YHVH shall descend/come down and teach/instruct people that His death shall bring, those in despair, comfort/rest.

This is a great presentation! but don't you think you should give Chuck Missler credit for it?

Perhaps you forgot where it came from.

Learn the Bible in 24 Hours® by Chuck Missler (2002, Paperback)

GandalfTheWhite · May 12, 2015

MarcR said:

Mark, unfortunately I don't know Chuck Missler. We should all give credit to somebody somewhere but I definitely did not read it from one of Chuck's books.

PS I also never claimed it to be my work...

Danie

DesiredHaven · May 12, 2015

MarcR said:

There are videos on this one. Ones where it shows the names strung together and the message that has been interpretated through the same. Although I dont even think the videos give any credit to anyone either.

Afterall it is just each of the names (with their interpretated meanings) strung together back to back.

Here the shortest version of some of those same names here

[video=youtube;fAHR7xroIIQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_792357&feature=iv&s rc_vid=UxGLeux40RQ&v=fAHR7xroIIQ[/video]

Most pick it up on youtube, and is like just one of those things you might bump into but not know where it comes from or who discovered it first because the vid doesnt seem to say either. So easy to forget who.

Miri · May 12, 2015

I remember someone telling me years ago that:

The New is in the Old concealed
The Old is in the New revealed

Some time ago I started a bible study about doors in the bible, so many of them point to
Jesus.

Gen 4 v 7 sin crouched at the door relative to Cain

Gen 6 v 16, Gen 7 v 16 the door of the ark

Exo 12 v 7 blood smeared on the doors at passover

Deut 6 v 9 command to love the Lord with all heart etc Write them in the
door frames of your houses and gates

1 Kings 6 regarding the entrance of the inner sanctuary how they were made
and decorated

2 Kings 4 v 3-6 widows oil go inside shut the door behind you, my thoughts shutting the
door on the world and enter into Gods provision.

2 Kings 4 v 21 the widow learnt the lesson she didn't need telling to shut the door this
time, Gods provision was her first option.

There are so many more. I did try to get some of this down in my blog on CC a while
ago just a few thoughts, not sure if I got it all right. Then there is Jesus the ultimate
door, he also stands at the door knocking.

It makes for a fascinating bible study.

Aw well got to go to work, blessings everyone.

CWJ · May 12, 2015

Prophecy:
'Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
because he hath poured out his soul unto death:
and he was numbered with the transgressors;
and he bare the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.'
(Isa 53:12)

Fulfilment:-
'And with Him they crucify two thieves;
the one on His right hand,
and the other on His left.
And the scripture was fulfilled,
which saith,
"And He was numbered with the transgressors."'
(Mar 15:27,28)

Praise God!

CWJ · May 12, 2015

Prophecy:
'Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great,
and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
because he hath poured out his soul unto death:
and he was numbered with the transgressors;
and He bare the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.'
(Isa 53:12)

Fulfillment:-
'Then said Jesus,
"Father, forgive them;
for they know not what they do."
(Luk 23:34a)

Praise His Name!

CWJ · May 12, 2015

These words were in my mind as I read through this thread for the first time, this morning.
* Thank you Miri.

I have enjoyed reading through this thread very much.
* My thanks to the originator. (GandalphTheWhite)

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.

Chris

GandalfTheWhite · May 12, 2015

DesiredHaven said:

What I don't understand is how anybody can try to claim this as their own knowledge. If it was me, I would give glory to ABBA Father that this was confirmed by somebody else through the Holy Spirit.

CWJ · May 12, 2015

Prophecy:-
'All they that see me laugh me to scorn:
they shoot out the lip,
they shake the head, saying,
He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him:
let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.'
(Psa 22:7,8)

Fulfillment:-
'Likewise also the chief priests mocking Him,
with the scribes and elders, said,
He saved others; Himself He cannot save.
If He be the King of Israel,
let Him now come down from the cross,
and we will believe Him.
He trusted in God;
let Him deliver Him now, if he will have him:
for He said, "I am the Son of God."'
(Mat 27:41-43)

Praise God!

MarcR · May 13, 2015

GandalfTheWhite said:

DesiredHaven said:

My apologies! This is Chuck Misler's work. The translations of the names that he uses include several non-standard definitions; none of which are unfounded, but are unique.

Whomever you got them from plagiarized them from Dr . Misler, unless they gave credit.

MarcR · May 13, 2015

That video has a nice message; but many of the name translations are really forced and contrived.

Whoever did it took the idea from Chuck Misler and forced and contrived the definitions of many of the other names to make it work.

GandalfTheWhite · May 13, 2015

MarcR said:

Oh, my thoughts were that it was from the Holy Spirit but what do I know?

Maybe you should start speaking to your local Jewish rabbi and see how long the Jews have been aware of the secrets in the Hebrew scripture... that will also give you indication how long the Christians have been veiled.

MarcR · May 13, 2015

Diane,

I'm not trying to quarrel with you in fact in my first post on the subject I acknowledged the possibility that you didn't know the source. We are usually in agreement on most issues ; and I appreciate your contributions to the forum.

As both an educator and a writer, giving recognition is important to me.

When someone writes something truly original and others start using it without giving recognition I feel compelled to remind the offender of the eighth commandment.

I was sincere in my apology. I never intended to accuse you of stealing. I still think Dr Misler deserves credit for his work; and I believe that he does indeed credit the Holy spirit for much of his work.

GandalfTheWhite · May 13, 2015

MarcR said:

Marc, I received my information from a document called "An Exposition of the TaNaCh’s Typologies Revealing YHVH’s Only Plan of Salvation in the Brit Chadashah". The person who wrote this document is a committed follower of God, a Hebrew Professor and also a rabbi (he is not Jewish) so that is the reason why I don't believe he would plagiarise somebody's work. He don't need to because ABBA Father blessed him with knowledge about the Hebrew language. This guy is fluent in Hebrew and when he walks around in Israel they (the Jews) often confuse him with being a Jew.

Shalom
Danie

GandalfTheWhite · May 13, 2015

MarcR said:

PS Marc I appreciate your apology, I am currently studying the word with the help of this pastor and he is helping us to understand God's word clearer. 90% of what I post are studies done with him (for future reference

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CWJ · May 15, 2015

Hello Danie, (GandalfTheWhite)

In quoting prophecies concerning the Lord Jesus Christ as Israel's Messiah, and their New Testament fulfilment as I have: am I in fact muddying the waters? For you have been giving instances of TYPES OF CHRIST in the Old Testament, within the characters, characteristics and events of Scripture, rather than in direct prophecy. If my contribution is not helpful, or is contrary to your original intention in creating the thread, please tell me.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

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