Your God kills people

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So it's a fact that the Christian God who is Jesus, kills people (Or lets say for the sake of the argument) has killed people.

God has killed millions, and not just evil people (Animals, children & infants both male and female)

How is this acceptable?
Order in the court!

Problems are best dealt with before they become such catastrophies that nothing will ever be ok again.
 
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jenniferand2

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God doesn't have to kill anything to forgive, does he?

And why does he.
no he does not his only Son died to take care f our sin. However people do gt sick and die or get murdered by someone who has been taken over by Satan. not all people who die believe in God. either way Humans have to die. The world would be so overpopulated if we did not die. I think once a person get so sick health wise that they are living in extreme pain and misery then it is Gods grace that lets them pass away so their souls may move on from this temporary world into heaven. There is never a good reason for why people die. It is just the circle of life. But one could argue that it was Gods Grace that a person died when they did. who would want to live over 100 anyways your mind would be mush you could barley do anything what kind of life would that be?
 

jenniferand2

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God doesn't have to kill anything to forgive, does he?

And why does he.
God has already forgiven mankind once his son died on the cross for our sins. Now if people do not believe that God is the only God and a forgiving God. then they may need to re evaluate their relationship with God. But we the people are already forgiven we just need to believe in his son and pray for forgiveness when we Sin.
 

Magenta

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Thank you, that was bugging me.
God can have the stones to cry out in praise of Him if He were to desire it, perhaps especially if humans fail to do so. Lettuce should have no problem complying :D A simple reading of Genesis will tell you, that we are made of the dust of the ground. In other words, fashioned with the same elements which comprise the earth, dirt, and stones. Surely nobody argues against that (that we are comprised of the elements of the earth)? God has mastery over and commands the elements.
 

Magenta

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So basically Christians do nothing to get everything, while some who will do something get nothing.
Not justice.
Your opposition to God is nothing? Lay it down, then.
 

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So it's a fact that the Christian God who is Jesus, kills people (Or lets say for the sake of the argument) has killed people.

God has killed millions, and not just evil people (Animals, children & infants both male and female)

How is this acceptable?

Rom 9:13-23...
 
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eternally-gratefull

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So it's a fact that the Christian God who is Jesus, kills people (Or lets say for the sake of the argument) has killed people.

God has killed millions, and not just evil people (Animals, children & infants both male and female)

How is this acceptable?

1. Jesus did not kill anyone while he was on earth.
2. Jesus killed himself so we could live
 

Magenta

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One thing is true, none of you know what I do and do not believe.

In whole and part.
Are you bragging of your secrecy? You ply us for answers while giving nothing to likewise elucidate us in return and this is something to be proud of?
 

Magenta

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Not to repeat myself, but this stuff you believe? Sin nature, salvation is not something that can be proven, other than what the bible says (And thats unconfirmed history)
God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us. In other words, the whole point is for you to come to belief based on your own convictions, for it is a personal relationship with Him that He desires, after all :)
 

Magenta

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Your God doesn't speak anymore, now does he.
All of Gods dictation for today is writ from a 2000 year old book.
Not true. I am still working my way through from where I left off last night, which is way back on page four, so do please excuse if this has already been addressed by others already. Besides the fact that I have already multiple times addressed it myself, which you, Mr Paradoxdown, have multiple times ignored :) I must ask, do you seek to understand that which you read, or does comprehension elude you, or do you simply dismiss offhandedly, perhaps disdainfully and with incredulity, anything that does not fit your preconceived ideas?
 

Dan58

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So it's a fact that the Christian God who is Jesus, kills people (Or lets say for the sake of the argument) has killed people.

God has killed millions, and not just evil people (Animals, children & infants both male and female)

How is this acceptable?
You are correct sir, God has killed and will kill everyone and everything (flesh & blood).. We were all born to die, that's why we're here, death is a natural occurrence. Sometimes God felt the necessity to expedite the process with some wicked people like the Canaanites. Life is God's domain, not ours, so death comes to all. Dying is not preferable, but its acceptable simply because it serves a higher ultimate purpose... jmo
 

Magenta

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Do you accept death as a natural end to life? If so, why complain about it?
 

Agricola

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Yes God allows babies to die of cancer, one of the usual comments about how bad God is, but it is always overlooked that we kill more babies from abortion and murder than God does.
 

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Usually the motive of an argument like this one in the OP is because of resistance to the fact that God is creator, we His creation. And then Pauls words stir up passions..

~Rom 9:17  For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. 
Rom 9:18  Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

To counter this argument....look at Jesus. It was the design of Father to send His Son from the very beginning of creation, which is mercy. They were looking at the whole of humanity to a design that men could be born of God, and be formed into His very image that we could live with Him for all eternity.

Its just men who want to rule their own destiny that has a problem with arguing against God. The world is a mess and has been since A&E. I want to escape this and its only through Jesus that we can. Still a merciful God, full of compassion, saving us from evil...even that of self will, self rule.  
 

notuptome

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Sin kills not God. God gives life. Death passed upon all men because of sin. All men can be saved because of Christ.

Ps 14:1 « To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. » The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Magenta

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Let me make a serious point here, I won't be deciding believing and trusting any g(G)od based on "Getting into their heaven." I can't even express the stupidity of that carrot.
That is good to know. Life ever after is on Earth, any ways :)
 

Magenta

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It's unhealthy to have a primary relationship with something you have to imagine.

Do you understand what that means?

Many kids have imaginary friends, but they grow out of it. When they don't it is seen as an unhealthy preoccupation, and it's encouraged for them to have real sensory based relationships.

Living in the land of imaginary belief might seem to fill a void, but it disconnects you with the real.

"Don't nuke our imagination man!"
You have to imagine there is no evidence in order to reject it all and say there is none. Haha. See how that works? There is plenty of evidence, not to mention the fact that creation itself attests to the work of His hands, but you have decided you know better than God and millions and billions of people throughout history who have believed in Him. That is called the pride of life :) It is the stumbling block non believers will not see past until the Holy Spirit of God moves in their lives. When might that happen? Prepare yourself to receive Him! Seek and you shall find. It is promised :) Seek sincerely. Don't do it with a mind closed to everything you find that does not suit your inclination to disbelief. God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble. Yes, I am aware I am repeating myself. It bears repeating :) The Son is shining but you do not see Him because the clouds of your disbelief are blocking the view :D