Your God kills people

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Let me make a serious point here, I won't be deciding believing and trusting any g(G)od based on "Getting into their heaven." I can't even express the stupidity of that carrot.
I have been to "Stralia" 5 times and absolutely love it...the 17 hour flight from Dallas to Sydney was an adjustment I might add....got a routine now that works pretty good though.....To your carrot statement....highly unlikely....fearing God is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction....To be honest, I want to know the truth and an honest evaluation, without bias and or preconceived judgments will reveal the scriptures to be above human reasoning...in the OT we find genetic manipulation, modern flight, nuclear war, modern war, space based weapons, flaming (chariots) that leap from hill to hill and move like lightning, etc....As a matter of fact most war colleges study the book of Joshua and a few accounts of war found within the period of judges...it contains the words of Kings, slaves, shepherds, prostitutes, soldiers, doctors, lawyers and every other gambit of life under the sun, yet flows seamlessly.....some say ten different dimensions can be found in Genesis....point being....either the book as a whole is inspired and written by men who had supernatural guidance or it is not worth a thin dime......it is the most least read, judged number 1 selling book of all time and has survived thousands of years worth of scrutiny and attempts to stamp out, burn out and or kill out........just saying.....!

I personally believe it is inspired and contains the truth about men and God.
 
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notuptome

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Let me make a serious point here, I won't be deciding believing and trusting any g(G)od based on "Getting into their heaven." I can't even express the stupidity of that carrot.
You might feel bold enough to declare that you would rather perish in the lake of fire than bow the knee to Christ but I assure you that at the Great White throne judgment souls are cast into the lake they do not leap in of their own accord.

That is the epitome of stupid.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

wolfwint

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So it's a fact that the Christian God who is Jesus, kills people (Or lets say for the sake of the argument) has killed people.

God has killed millions, and not just evil people (Animals, children & infants both male and female)

How is this acceptable?
If you mean that our God is a killer, why you are on CC? If you would know him you would not say he is a killer. There is nobody on this earth who loves you more, then this God which you called a killer!
 

BenFTW

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Not to repeat myself, but this stuff you believe? Sin nature, salvation is not something that can be proven, other than what the bible says (And thats unconfirmed history)
Try to walk perfectly in all that you do. Then tell me if you're perfect in righteousness. Are you good, one hundred percent of the time? Then you fall short. Short of what? God's standard of righteousness. This could go into a discussion of morality and its objectivity but in a world without a perfect standard of righteousness then all morality is simply subjective. Your actions only confirm the sin nature, and of salvation God offers it through Jesus Christ by faith. You must trust God, because He is faithful and not a liar.
 

Magenta

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God is the author and giver of life. He is the lover of your soul. He takes no
pleasure in the death of the wicked. Rather He is pleased when we turn
from
our ways and live. Life is found in Him. He offers it to everyone who
will accept
it from Him. There is nothing aside from Him. In Him we live
and move and have
our being, whether you can see and accept it or not,
no less than atoms and molecules
comprised our physical bodies before they
were ever imagined, known of, or seen
with our own eyes with the aid of
special instruments. If you are truly seeking the
meaning and purpose of life,
get down on your knees in humility before the God you
do not know, and humbly
ask Him to reveal Himself to you. Allow Him to move the
mountain of your disbelief, that you may personally know the depth of His love for you.
 

BenFTW

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Let me make a serious point here, I won't be deciding believing and trusting any g(G)od based on "Getting into their heaven." I can't even express the stupidity of that carrot.
The carrot is not necessarily Heaven, but rather God, Himself. God is calling you into a relationship with Himself. He wants you to experience His presence, His everlasting love. He loves you. You feel that the whole Heaven and Hell thing is a thing to control the masses, and sure, it could be used for power. However, beyond men's greed you must look beyond such fallible men and see the truth. Salvation isn't just a ticket to Heaven, but an invitation to a vital relationship between you, His to be son, and the Father. He cherishes you, and that is why Jesus died and resurrected for you.
 

JesusLives

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So it's a fact that the Christian God who is Jesus, kills people (Or lets say for the sake of the argument) has killed people.

God has killed millions, and not just evil people (Animals, children & infants both male and female)

How is this acceptable?
The wages of sin is death..... Sin kills people.... God came up with a plan to save people in the form of Jesus Christ who as already died to pay for even your sins. God is in the life saving business not the killing business. You have your facts skewed... God is Love...
 

blue_ladybug

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12 pages in, and y'all still feeding.. tsk tsk
 

Magenta

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Be ready at all times to give a reason for the hope you have in God.
 

BenFTW

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12 pages in, and y'all still feeding.. tsk tsk
He needs feeding, we are offering him the Bread of Life, Jesus Christ. These are seeds that God will water and then come to fruition.
 

blue_ladybug

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Maybe so, maybe not. Not all seeds that are planted, grow..


He needs feeding, we are offering him the Bread of Life, Jesus Christ. These are seeds that God will water and then come to fruition.
 

JesusLives

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All our pain and suffering is a learning problem. (That's what I think, that's all)

It's a simple answer, and I don't have to beg Jesus to keep me from the fire.

I guess we'll all find out.
I don't need to beg God to keep me from the fire....When you love God you thank Him that he made a way not to have to worry about the fire because when there is a love relationship there is nothing to fear.
 

BenFTW

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All our pain and suffering is a learning problem. (That's what I think, that's all)

It's a simple answer, and I don't have to beg Jesus to keep me from the fire.

I guess we'll all find out.
You don't have to beg because He is giving it freely, and graciously. He is eager to have you come into the fold, so that He may shepherd you. To guide you, and help you. You are helpless to save yourself, and God is extending His hand to be your Savior.
 

Roughsoul1991

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It's unhealthy to have a primary relationship with something you have to imagine.

Do you understand what that means?

Many kids have imaginary friends, but they grow out of it. When they don't it is seen as an unhealthy preoccupation, and it's encouraged for them to have real sensory based relationships.

Living in the land of imaginary belief might seem to fill a void, but it disconnects you with the real.

"Don't nuke our imagination man!"
Sorry bro I never had a imaginary friend. But since your not willing to have a relationship then do not expect to understand the world of God. Either their a lot of crazy Christians or we know something you don't.
 

Roughsoul1991

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God seeks the seeker. Waiting patiently for all his children including you to seek him, while he waits with loving arms for the child who seeks their heavenly father. It's a choice all must make. Make your choice and stop playing. Either try to know God or move on like you said we all will see one day. Sadly what do we have to lose? Being called crazy and living to be better loving people? Such a loss while you gamble on your eternal home.