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onlinebuddy

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[video=youtube;YMIdVntKr8c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMIdVntKr8c[/video]

If possible, I would appreciate your answer in the following format:
1) I agree with this video, because.....
OR
2) I disagree with this video, because....
OR
3) I agree on some points, but disagree on others.
Here's what I agree with: ..... .
Here's what I disagree with: ...

Kindly do not discuss on why the catholic church is wrong- (idolatory, indulgences, transubstantiation, etc)

Thanks in advance.
 

onlinebuddy

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Kindly do not discuss on why the catholic church is wrong- (idolatory, indulgences, transubstantiation, etc)


What I mean by this is: Let's stick to the points made in the video, as much as possible. Let us avoid OTHER ASPECTS (idolatory, indulgences, transubstantiation, etc) of why the catholic church is wrong.
 

Jackson123

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[video=youtube;YMIdVntKr8c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMIdVntKr8c[/video]

If possible, I would appreciate your answer in the following format:
1) I agree with this video, because.....
OR
2) I disagree with this video, because....
OR
3) I agree on some points, but disagree on others.
Here's what I agree with: ..... .
Here's what I disagree with: ...

Kindly do not discuss on why the catholic church is wrong- (idolatory, indulgences, transubstantiation, etc)

Thanks in advance.

Disagree. Salvation is by faith. If one have a faith in Jesus and die in the next second, he is save.

that guy do not understand that work is fruit of faith, not cause salvation but fruit of salvation. It is twisting. Led to astray.
 

mailmandan

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Disagree. Salvation is by faith. If one have a faith in Jesus and die in the next second, he is save.

that guy do not understand that work is fruit of faith, not cause salvation but fruit of salvation. It is twisting. Led to astray.
Amen! What these Roman Catholics in the video FAIL to understand is that man is saved through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9); yet genuine faith is vindicated, substantiated, evidenced by works (James 2:14-24).

Christ saves us through faith based on the merits of His finished work of redemption "alone" and not based on the merits of our works.

It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies is never alone (solitary, unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine (James 2:14-24). *Perfect Harmony*
 

beta

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[video=youtube;YMIdVntKr8c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMIdVntKr8c[/video]

If possible, I would appreciate your answer in the following format:
1) I agree with this video, because.....
OR
2) I disagree with this video, because....
OR
3) I agree on some points, but disagree on others.
Here's what I agree with: ..... .
Here's what I disagree with: ...

Kindly do not discuss on why the catholic church is wrong- (idolatory, indulgences, transubstantiation, etc)

Thanks in advance.
HOW do I activate this video ?
 

Adstar

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As an ex catholic i could only watch this video for a few minutes before getting sickened to my stomach.. Works salvation is the great deception and it is not only the catholic religion that preaches it.. A lot of so called protestant denominations preach it these days as well..
 

trofimus

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"This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe...all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."
R 3:22,24
 
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trofimus

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The problem is in definitions.

While Bible does not support salvation by faith without any deeds, its not what RCC should argue with.

Martin Luther and others never said you may live in sin. They said that no RELIGIOUS DEEDS constituted by the RCC church as a way to repentance or salvation are needed.

Its important to know the historical context.
 
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tourist

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This appears to be is just another trashy anti-Catholic thread. It gets tiresome. Let's discuss the doctrinal errors and practices of all denominations and faiths as well.
 

trofimus

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This appears to be is just another trashy anti-Catholic thread. It gets tiresome. Let's discuss the doctrinal errors and practices of all denominations and faiths as well.
There are many threads discussing various doctrinal errors. There are actually many more of them than about the RCC.
 

John146

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As an ex catholic i could only watch this video for a few minutes before getting sickened to my stomach.. Works salvation is the great deception and it is not only the catholic religion that preaches it.. A lot of so called protestant denominations preach it these days as well..
By not rightly dividing the word of truth...
 
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What I mean by this is: Let's stick to the points made in the video, as much as possible. Let us avoid OTHER ASPECTS (idolatory, indulgences, transubstantiation, etc) of why the catholic church is wrong.
The premise is weird.

First, I'm required? No, I'm really not.

Second, this is like "requiring" me to learn all the delicious ways of serving liver. One big problem -- I don't like liver, so why would I be interested in learning how to prepare it?

Why have a conversation on a site not dedicated to the RCC to talk about the RCC or what the RCC thinks of Protestantism? That's just weird.
 
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This appears to be is just another trashy anti-Catholic thread. It gets tiresome. Let's discuss the doctrinal errors and practices of all denominations and faiths as well.
Didn't you just sum up what BDF is already used for anyway?
 

OneFaith

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Faith alone does not save. Neither does Catholicism. Just because a false religion mixes truth in with its lies, doesn’t disregard that it’s false. They said “Church doctrine and doctrine of the Bible” And then later said “That’s not biblical.” There is no such thing as ‘church doctrine’ in the church that Christ established. There is only the doctrine of Christ- which is the New Testament. “They worship Me in vain (not resulting in salvation) their doctrine is merely human rules.”
 
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I agree with what he said about that heretic Martin Luther. Luther's own words and quotes condemn him.
As the guy said, James specifically refutes faith alone, yet thats the biggest doctrine Luther pushed. Great joke that sola scriptura was from Luther, he didnt believe sola scriptura!



I disagree with how he interpreted the church to be referring to the current catholic church.

So this message was good, but as you said OP "(idolatory, indulgences, transubstantiation, etc)" <- all of this still going on in the catholic church, so its like the pot calling the kettle black.

Catholics aint gonna get rid of their statues or mary worship, so i'll never join. If they did, i'd join.
 

Nehemiah6

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Faith alone does not save.
There is no question that the one who is saved must be careful to maintain good works, and live soberly, righteously and godly.

But what you have stated is contrary to the words of Christ Himself. John 3:3-21 are the words of Christ, and this is what He said, and to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ is to be saved by grace through faith (Acts 16:31):

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


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For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.


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He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Then John the Baptizer concludes this chapter thus:

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


As to those who object to exposing the false doctrines of the Catholic Church, please be reminded that (a) any other gospel than the true Gospel is under a curse, as are those who preach a false gospel, and (b) false gospels send people to Hell. The RCC will never change, but desires to drag everyone else under their umbrella.
 

notuptome

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This appears to be is just another trashy anti-Catholic thread. It gets tiresome. Let's discuss the doctrinal errors and practices of all denominations and faiths as well.
That is what the reformation was all about. Rome is a gentile version of apostate Judaism. They speak in glowing words but deny the meaning of the words by their actions.

Didn't you just sum up what BDF is already used for anyway?
Certainly by some.

The video is self serving and misleading so as to forward the cause of apostasy.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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jaybird88

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most of protestants doctrine comes from Catholicism.
 
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I would offer the first and foremost is in the opening of that video. They say the Protestants have no, none,zero foundation. This is seeing they must build their religion on that which is seen and not the unseen Christian foundation called faith, having it as a living hope in respect to the faith of Christ. There hope is in respect to Peter.

Paul in Romans below apposes walking by sight

Rom 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

It has to do with the foundation of faith.(two kinds).One in respect to man seen (Peter the Catholic key that they hold as law that gates of hell could never prevail against ) or#2 ....faith in respect to our Father in heaven not seen.

They have another foundation built on a law of the fathers, having a belief as a source of faith in what the eyes see. .. they have received their reward glorying, venerating their own flesh as false pride. .

They who must walk by sight say the Protestants have no, none, zero foundation as in out of sight out of mind. We have a living hope .Theirs is dead, for who hopes for what they think they already have? Because those who do walk by the faith of Christ which comes from hearing God rather than a catholic who must walk by sight why would the Christians hope for something they already have? We have a living hope that goes above human reason. It is the gift that keeps on giving us hope.

Catholicism is a dark place if there are Christian there, they need the light of the gospel .