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Saturday, June 27, 2010, a 6-month-old baby girl was killed and her mother
seriously injured when the pair were struck by a falling tree branch in New
York City's Central Park Zoo. The girl's father was taking their picture near
the sea lion exhibit when a branch above them suddenly snapped off and
fell.

Tuesday, July 3, 2007; nineteen year-old Ramiro Gonzalez was returning
home to Nyssa Oregon from a week-end honeymoon in northern California
with his bride Idalia asleep in the back seat when their 1997 Pontiac Grand
Am hit a cow twenty miles east of Burns. The Pontiac went off the road,
through a fence, and burst into flames. Idalia escaped with only minor
injuries, but Ramiro died at the Ste. Charles Medical Center in Bend the very
next day.

Ramiro and his bride didn't get to live in a home of their own for even one
single minute of their marriage-- never had a baby, never joined the PTA,
never saved for college, never went to ballet lessons, nor to soccer or little
league, never went on family picnics, never took home movies and photos at
Christmas, Easter, or birthdays, never went to the beach and built sand
castles --no, their entire future, and all their dreams of family life, were
shattered in an instant by a lame-brained bovine; and Ramiro wasn't even
20 years old yet. He could've lived another fifty years.

March 20, 2008; fifty-seven year old Judy Kay Zagorski, of Pigeon, Michigan,
was sitting in the front seat of her father's boat going 25 knots on the
Atlantic Ocean side of Vaca Key in Florida, when a Spotted Eagle Ray, with a
wingspan of 5 to 6 feet; leaped up out of the water-- for who knows what
reason --and collided with Zagorski, knocking her backwards onto the deck
of the boat. She died from the impact. Judy's sister, standing next to her,
wasn't injured.

On a November morning in 1998, Alan Pakula climbed into his Volvo station
wagon and began the 100-mile drive from Manhattan to his Long Island
house. The acclaimed movie director of Sophie's Choice, All The President's
Men, and The Pelican Brief, had made that trip countless times with no
incident.

As the 70 year-old Pakula neared exit 49 on the Long Island Expressway just
before noon, the tires of a vehicle ahead of him flipped a 7-foot piece of
steel rod into the air. Within seconds, the rod shot through Pakula's
windshield, smashing into his forehead, killing him almost instantly.

Death often comes when people least expect it. As a rule, they don't usually
get up in the morning planning it to be their last day on earth. The 169,752
killed, and 127,294 listed as missing in more than eleven countries by the
tsunami of 2004, were taken by surprise, and given no warning it was to be
their last day on earth.

The 2,829 people who perished in a terrorist attack on the World Trade
Center on September 11, 2001, and the 189 who died in the Pentagon,
didn't go in to work expecting their lives to end before lunch that day. No,
people's lives often end while they still have obligations and commitments,
aspirations, things to do, places to go, and people to see; when a car
accident, train wreck, act of nature, plane crash, crime, heart attack, or
stroke puts an abrupt end to every plan they ever made.

Tuesday, Jan 12, 2010, a 7.0 earthquake struck Port au Prince Haiti right out
of the blue subsequently causing the loss of more than 200,000 lives. A
similar act of nature on March 11, 2011, left 25,000 dead and/or missing in
Japan.

Okeechobee woman Dawn Johnston, 38, was killed Wednesday June 30,
2010 after part of a portable toilet crashed through her car's windshield.
Dawn was driving south on SR 15 shortly after 11 a.m. when two portable
toilets fell from the trailer of a pickup truck traveling north,. The portable
toilets shattered when they hit the road, and a piece of one of them crashed
through the woman's windshield, striking her. Johnston's car then veered off
the road and collided with a tree.

A rain-saturated hillside above the Stillaguamish River on the outskirts of the
rural town of Oso in the State of Washington gave way March 22, 2014
leaving behind a current death toll of 41 souls. The landslide happened to
suddenly and so rapidly that nobody saw it coming and/or had the slightest
chance of getting out of the way. Listed among the dead and missing was a
four-month old infant.

Freak incidents like those listed above can happen to anybody in the form of
a stray bullet from a drive-by, lightening strike, gas explosion, choking on a
piece of meat, electrocution, earthquake, a drunk driver, a fall in the bath
tub; bricks dropped from an overpass, a school shooting, or any number of
out-of-the-blue surprises.

Because of the uncertainty of tomorrow, people need to start thinking about
the afterlife today, now, while they have the chance; rather than risk being
caught off guard by sudden death when there will be no time to think; and
they find themselves suddenly thrust into the unseen world quite
unprepared.

Ecc 9:12 . . No man knows when his hour will come: as fish are caught in
a cruel net, or birds are taken in a snare, so men are trapped by evil times
that fall unexpectedly upon them.
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According to Matt 10:28, the body and the soul are perishable.

However; though the body is perishable by human means, the soul is
perishable only by divine means; i.e. the deaths of body and soul aren't
necessarily simultaneous, viz: the soul lives on until such a time as God
decides to give it either a thumb up or a thumb down.


HADES UPDATE: 40 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 2,496,000 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Mark 9:47-48 . . If your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out. It is better to
enter the kingdom of God half blind than to have two eyes and be thrown
into hell; where the worm never dies and the fire never goes out.

The "hell" in that passage is a different Greek word than the "hell" of Luke
16:19- 31. That one is haides (hah'-dace) which is an afterlife sphere where
all the dead go; both the good dead and the bad dead regardless of age,
race, color, gender or religious preference. This word here in Mark is geena
(gheh'-en-nah) which is where only the bad dead will end up some day:
likely the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11-15

Anyway; Christ's instructions didn't reveal anything new. He simply
reiterated information that had already been released by an Old Testament
prophet roughly 700 years before.

Isa 66:22-24 . . From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to
another, all mankind will come and bow down before me-- speaks the Lord.
And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled
against Me: their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they
will be loathsome to all mankind.

That rather ghastly scene depicts a sort of tourist attraction similar to the La
Brea Tar Pits museum in Los Angeles where the remains of prehistoric
creatures, excavated from ancient asphalt deposits, are on display.

A worm that thrives in brimstone is pretty amazing, but not unreasonable.
The 4 inch Pompeii worm lives in sea water temperatures of 176°
Fahrenheit; hot enough to kill salmonella and sanitize an egg. So I guess if
God could create a worm like the Pompeii, it shouldn't be too difficult for Him
to create worms that like it even warmer.

FAQ: The human body is organic. So then, how can it survive in flame as
perpetual nourishment for those worms?

A: The laws of nature are not absolute. They were created in the first
chapter of Genesis to control the behavior of created matter, and as such
are easily manipulated by the one who designed them.

For example: fire totally incinerated the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah but
left unscathed a desert shrub that Moses encountered in the Sinai outback
while tending his father-in-law's sheep. (Ex 3:1-3)

Compare Dan 3:8-27 where a blistering hot fire didn't even so much as
singe the clothing of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego while slaying the
guards that threw them in the furnace.

FAQ: Won't the worms eventually exhaust their food supply?

A: There are incidents in the Bible where small amounts of food stuffs were
miraculously multiplied. One example is 1Kgs 17:8-16 where a tiny bit of
flour and oil nourished Elijah and a widow woman, and her son, for a good
many days during a time of prolonged drought.

Another incident is at 2Kgs 4:1-7 where a certain widow's husband died and
left her deeply in debt. God multiplied her last pot of oil sufficiently to sell
enough to pay off her debts, thereby saving her two sons from slavery.

No; I'm pretty sure those worms won't need to worry about running out of
human remains with which to sustain themselves.
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Ecc 1:2-4 . . Meaningless! Futile! complains the Teacher. Utterly
meaningless! Everything is meaningless. What does a man gain from all his
labor at which he toils under the sun? Generations come and generations go,
but the earth remains forever.

The earth is dumber than a pizza box; yet easily outlives its human
potentate whose IQ is infinitely greater. Take for example the great granite
monuments in Yosemite Valley. Tourists to the valley come, and tourists to
the valley go; and one day the grim reaper catches up with those tourists
and they're gone; yet Yosemite's great stones abide decade after decade;
century after century.

Most children born this day will be dead in 100 years; and Yosemite won't
even notice. Though a child born today may be intelligent enough to
eventually understand quantum mechanics and play classical guitar like
Andrés Segovia; yet Yosemite's sentinels-- stupid, mute, and uneducated -
will easily outlast it.

Ecc 2:15-16 . . I thought in my heart: The fate of the fool will overtake me
also. What then do I gain by being wise? I said in my heart: This is
meaningless. For the wise man, like the fool, will not be long remembered--
in days to come both will be forgotten. Like the fool, the wise man too must
die.
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Judas goats are trained for use in slaughterhouses and herd control. In
stockyards, they lead sheep to slaughter; and are also used to lead other
animals to specific pens and on to trucks. The term is a reference to the
biblical traitor Judas Iscariot.

The phrase has also been used to describe goats utilized to locate feral goats
targeted for eradication. They're usually outfitted with a transmitter, painted
in red and then released. The goats then locate the remaining herds of feral
goats, allowing hunters with tracking devices to find and exterminate them.
The red paint marks the goat with the transmitter so the hunters know
which one not to shoot.

You know what can be even worse than going to hell? Your own children
following you there: and they trusted you.

Here's a sort of cute story I heard once. I don't know if it's true but I guess
it's plausible.

A farmer went out to the barn in the dead of night after a snowfall to sneak
a pull from his liquor bottle. Just as he got to the barn door he heard
something behind him. Turning, the farmer recognized his little boy coming
towards him. In amazement he asked the little guy how he ever managed to
find his way out to the barn in the dark. His son replied: It was easy; I
walked in your footprints.

One can only imagine the anguish that parents in the netherworld must feel
knowing that they inadvertently raised their children in an ideology that led
them down a road to the infernal regions and all the while sincerely believing
themselves doing the right thing. In other words: they actually Judas-goated
their children to follow mom and dad down there. For some families, the
only thing they have to look forward to in the afterlife is a sad reunion in fire
and despair.


HADES UPDATE: 43 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 2,683,200 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Luke 16:25 . . Abraham said: Son, remember

How people in the afterlife retain their memories sans the brain cells they
left behind with their corpse, I don't know. Apparently God has some sort of
file transfer protocol that silicon valley has yet to discover.

The older one gets, the more memories they accumulate, and many of those
memories haunt us with terrible regret. However, people down below not
only have to cope with their bad memories, but also the good ones too, and
I should think it's remembering the good things they enjoyed in life that
makes their situation only worse in the heat.

If everybody was born and raised in a warehouse; and never once ventured
out; that would be the only life they've ever known, so they wouldn't have a
clue what it's like to really live. For them the old maxim "Ignorance is bliss"
would certainly hold true. For example: many of the people born and raised
in North Korea sincerely believe the entire world is no better off than they
are.
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Gen 6:5 . . God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth,
and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil
continually.

The thoughts of the heart are somewhat different than the thoughts that go
through one's head; and are often blocked out, viz: "repressed"; defined as a
mental process by which distressing thoughts, memories, or impulses that
may give rise to anxiety are excluded from consciousness and left to operate
in the unconscious, i.e. the subconscious which, in Freud's opinion, is a
repository for socially unacceptable ideas, wishes or desires, traumatic
memories, and painful emotions.

Matt 15:19 . . Out of the heart proceed evil thoughts

So then, it's not how your mind works that defines you, no, it's how your
core of your inner being works that really defines you; and a man's core is
easily capable of hoodwinking his own consciousness.

Jer 17:9 . .The human heart is most deceitful and desperately wicked. Who
really knows how bad it is?

God is able to peer into the heart's contents. That means He will be
confronting people with things about themselves that they suppressed and
kept under wraps all their lives; and that's why I sometimes say only a fool
would take their chances with God. They have no clue the extent of the
psychological tsunami they're walking into.
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There was a time when everyone went to the netherworld when they passed
away: Jesus too because when he passed away on the cross; Jesus didn't go
up, rather, he went down. (Matt 12:40, John 20:17, Acts 7:25-31).

When we take into consideration everybody who ever lived and died on this
planet beginning with Adam until the day when people started going to
heaven; then we're talking about a very large number of people. How did
they all fit in the netherworld without overcrowding?

Well; it's evident that people exist in the afterlife in some sort of spirit form.
(Heb 12:22-23, 1Pet 3:18-20)

The feral man of Mark 5:1-13 and Luke 8:26-33 was possessed by a
community of evil spirits who labeled themselves Legion. Webster's defines a
legion as the principal unit of the Roman army comprising 3,000 to 6,000
foot soldiers with cavalry.

The legion of spirits that Christ exorcised from the man went out and
possessed a herd of about 2,000 swine. That's a pretty good example of how
spirits take up no room in the physical world; nor do they crowd each other.
All 3,000-6,000 of those spirits managed to fit inside the bodily cargo area of
just that one man.

That being the case, then the netherworld need not be a void. People can
exist down there in solid rock because spirits don't need space, they just
need a place.

NOTE: Any attempt to drill down to the heart of the Earth in search of the
netherworld would likely be futile because it isn't a physical world, rather,
it's a supernatural world. Drilling could, and would, pass right through the
very center of the netherworld and still not find it.


HADES UPDATE: 46 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 2,683,200 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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OBJECTION: It makes no sense that a loving God would torment people in a
fiery prison forever and ever.

RESPONSE: I fully agree that it makes no sense at all. But then human
sensibilities are produced by a 3-pound lump of flabby organic tissue; and
not even all three of those pounds are devoted to cognitive processes. On
top of that, those three pounds are 60% fat. That fatty, flabby, organic
tissue can alter one's personality with little more than an aneurism or a blow
to the head.

Just how sensible can a fatty, flabby, organic sense really be compared to
the sense of a supernatural being with enough intelligence to invent, design,
and construct a fully functioning cosmos with all of its forms of life, matter,
and energy? A fatty, flabby, organic sense isn't even a dunce in comparison:
it's a sub dunce; if even that.

1Cor 3:20 . .The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are empty.

Well; that's certainly not a very flattering evaluation. It's as much as saying
that, in God's opinion, the smartest among humanity basically consists of air
heads; and if that's His evaluation of the best and brightest, then where
does God rank those of us with an average IQ?
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The wrath of God is interesting. For example:

Isa 13:9 . . Behold, the day of Christ comes-- cruel; with both wrath and
fierce anger

The Hebrew word for "wrath" in that statement is 'ebrah (eb-raw') which
indicates an outburst of passion. In other words: the wrath of God won't be
weeping big wet crocodile tears while it's slamming the dead at the Great
White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15; no, they will be terminated
with extreme prejudice; viz: their judgment will be administered with choler.
(cf. Isa 63:1-6, Rev 19:15)

Webster's defines "fierce" as a behavior exhibited by humans and animals
that inspires terror because of the wild and menacing aspect of fury in
attack. Ferocity is an aspect commonly seen among roaring, snarling lions
savagely attacking prey. There's neither sportsmanship nor sympathy in
ferocity; only sheer terror, brutality, and blood lust.

"cruel" is defined as: disposed to inflict pain or suffering; viz: devoid of
humane feelings

Heb 10:27 . . A certain fearful expectation of . . . fiery indignation

"fiery indignation" is quite a bit more severe than ordinary indignation. It
speaks of someone who is seriously ticked off; and so angry that they're
actually red in the face.

There are people out there in pews all around the world who have been so
coddled by sappy versions of Christianity that they have no concept of the
magnitude of the lethal tsunami of rage and violence coming their way to
get them.

Another interesting aspect of the wrath of God is the person appointed to
administer it-- none other than the sweet little baby away in a manger.

John 5:22-23 . .The Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment
to the Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father.

Acts 17:31 . . For God has set a day when he will judge the world with
justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men
by raising him from the dead.

Rev 19:15 . . He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treads the
winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
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2Thess 2:11-12 . . God will send them strong delusion, that they should
believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the
truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

In other words: there's coming a time when God's patience will reach its
reasonable limits, and He will purposely, willfully, and deliberately make sure
that a certain category of people have no chance whatsoever to be spared
the wrath of God.

Back when Noah was preparing the ark, no doubt his neighbors all mocked
and poked fun at him as if he were a deranged soul going around with a
sandwich board that reads: Repent; The End Is Near! But when the rain
started, I bet those very same neighbors panicked and tried to get Noah to
open up and let them in. But even had Noah wanted to; he couldn't. The
hatch of the ark was sealed from the outside: and God was the only one on
earth who could open it-- He chose not to.

Rev 1:18 . . I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive
forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.

Rev 3:7 . .These are the words of him who is holy and true: who holds the
key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can
open.


HADES UPDATE: 49 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 3,057,600 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Acts 2:31a . . his soul was not left in hades

Classical hades is divided into sections where departed souls are assigned
accommodations in accordance with the quality of their pre-death existence.
The worst section is a deep abyss called Tartarus; which is utilized in the
New Testament at 2Pet 2:4.

According to Luke 23:13, Jesus' soul spent the three days and nights of his
decease in the better section of hades.
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A forgiven sinner is still sinful, and they'll go right on sinning same as before
they were forgiven unless they undergo a radical re-design because human
nature is intrinsically bad.

Gen 6:5 . .Yahweh saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had
become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil
all the time.

Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from
childhood.

Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?
Then may you also do good who are accustomed to do evil.

Eph 2:3 . .We were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

John 3:7 . .You should not be surprised at my saying: you must be born
again.
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Rev 20:14 . . Death was cast into the lake of fire.

Death is likely a category consisting of everything and anything one can
possibly imagine that God considers dead to Himself. Whatever that
amounts to, it will all be disposed in that fiery impound. In that respect, the
lake of fire could be thought of as a sanitary landfill, viz: a dump for trash
and garbage.


HADES UPDATE: 52 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 3,244,800 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Probably the first thing that most of us think of when we hear the word
"Hell" is everlasting torture. But the reservoir of burning sulfur depicted at
Rev 20:10-15 is actually not so much a rack as it is a gallows. The reservoir
is primarily an instrument for carrying out death sentences rather than life
sentences.

A death sentence-- although a sentence with lasting effects --isn't perpetual;
it's momentary. In other words: criminals are subjected to execution only
long enough to end their lives.

The primary reason we call the second death "eternal" is because it's
permanent; viz: according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there's only one
resurrection allotted per person. Therefore nobody is coming back from the
second death because they will have used up their one resurrection in order
to face justice at the Great White Throne event.

NOTE: People walk away alive from the fire spoken of at 1Cor 3:5-15.
Nobody walks away alive from the fire spoken of at Rev 20:10
15.
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COMMON ATTITUDE: I'm special; God understands me. Although He probably
may not let others off; I'm sure God will make an exception for me because
I'm not like other people; I'm different.

RESPONSE: Unfortunately, the Bible's God can't do that. If He were to make
exceptions, God would be neither equitable, nor honest-- and worse, it
would go against His grain, compromise His integrity, sin against His
conscience; and cause Him to lose the world's respect. No, God doesn't
grade on a curve: everyone is treated equally in God's courtroom. In a
system of divine absolutes; there is neither a curve nor an exception:
nobody gets any favors, nobody is special, and nobody is a protected
species.

Deut 10:17 . . Yhvh shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

Acts 10:34 . .Then Peter began to speak: I now realize how true it is that
God is impartial.

Rom 2:5-11 . . For there is coming a day of judgment when God, the just
judge of all the world, will judge all people according to what they have
done. He will give eternal life to those who persist in doing what is good,
seeking after the glory and honor and immortality that God offers.

. . . But he will pour out his anger and wrath on those who live for
themselves, who refuse to obey the truth; and practice evil deeds. There will
be anguish and calamity for everyone who practices evil-- for the Jew first
and also for the Gentile. But there will be glory and honor and peace from
God for all practice good --for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. For God
does not show favoritism.
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FAQ: Doesn't the Bible say that God's mercy endures forever as per Ps
100:5, Ps 106:1, Ps 107:1, and Ps 118:1, et al?

A: God's mercy is always available; but His good sense knows when to say
"when". Examples of that are the people swept away by the hand of God in
the Flood, and those incinerated by the hand of God in Sodom and
Gomorrah; and the firstborn of man and beast slain by the hand of God on
Passover night in Egypt.

It's possible to push God too far. For example:

Hos 4:17 . . Ephraim is joined to idols; let him alone.

In other words: God instructed the prophet Hosea not to bother preaching in
Ephraim. They were too far gone. (cf. 2Thess 2:10-12)


HADES UPDATE: 55 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 3,432,000 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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Matt 10:28 . . Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill
the soul; but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in
hell.

FAQ: If somebody is already dead, then how can hell kill their body?

A: The hell in that Matthew passage is different than that of Luke 16:19-31.
The Luke hell is haides (hah'-dace). It has no effect upon the human body
because for now when people die, their bodies stay here rather than going
there. The Matthew hell is a much worse hell called geena (gheh'-en-nah).

People now confined in haides will be resurrected to face justice at the
Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15. Should the judgment
go against them, their resurrected bodies will be permanently terminated in
a lake of fire, i.e. an impoundment consisting of brimstone.
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FAQ: Do you not know it is the kindness of God that leads men to
repentance rather than fear and threats of fiery justice? (Rom 2:4)

A: If the Bible's God weren't so kind, then He wouldn't bother with giving His
creatures advance notice of the horror in store for them in the afterlife.

Luke 12:4-5 . . And I say unto you my friends; Be not afraid of them that
kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will
forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after He hath killed hath
power to cast into Hell; yea, I say unto you fear Him.

Was Christ wrong to instill a fear of God within people's hearts? No; I think
he was 110% justified. For example: when I was working as a professional
welder for the US Army Corps of Engineers, we had weekly and monthly
safety meetings wherein we were shown some grisly photographs of real life
industrial accidents involving burns, chain saws, punctured eyes, explosions,
falls, crane collapses, suffocation, crushing, and the like.

Let me tell you something: those safety meetings got our attention, and
really made a sharp distinction between the fool and the wise. Somebody
like Billy Graham needs to get out there and let people know that they're up
against a celestial despot far more dangerous than North Korea's Kim Jong
un

Prov 22:3 . . A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes
precautions; the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

The kindness of God has given the world fair and adequate notice of what to
expect in the afterlife. Those who don't care about it one way or the other
would be well advised to use what time they have remaining to begin
preparing themselves for the worst when they cross over to the other side.
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FAQ: The Bible thumpers claim it's a "must" to believe in Christ's gospel in
order to be spared the wrath of God. How is that fair to peoples of the world
who were never afforded an opportunity to hear it?

A: According to Luke 12:47-48, everyone will be judged on the basis of what
they knew rather than what they didn't know.

However, in God's estimation the wonders and complexity of the cosmos--
all its forms of life, matter, and energy --is a strong enough argument to
convince people that everything came about by intelligent design and the
handiwork of a higher power, i.e. a supreme being.

Plus, their own sense of justice-- their conscience --is enough to warn people
that there's coming an ultimate reckoning to make things right, i.e. to
reward people for their good, and to punish them for their evil.

Those particulars are wrapped up in a timeless gospel wherein is no Jesus,
no crucifixion, and no resurrection. (Rev 14:6-7)


HADES UPDATE: 58 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the
figures in post No.1 are in the ball park, then something like 3,432,000 new
arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since July 03, 2021
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