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May 28, 2018
For a home-spun religion whose origin is relatively recent, the Watchtower
Society has done pretty well for itself. Beginning with one man shortly after
the American Civil War, it currently numbers approximately 8.2 million
followers spread out in approximately 118,000 congregations worldwide.
(Congregations have been displaced and consolidated in recent years due to
the Society liquidating a number of Kingdom Halls in order to settle its legal

My first encounter with a Watchtower Society missionary (a.k.a. Jehovah's
Witness) occurred in 1969. At the time I was young and inexperienced; and
thus assumed that the hewer of wood, and hauler of water coming down my
dad's driveway was a typical Christian.

But when I talked this over with an elder; he became alarmed; and urged
me to read a little book titled "30 Years A Watchtower Slave" by William J.
Schnell; whom the Society at one time demonized as an agent of Satan. I
would not be surprised if it still does.

After getting my eyes opened by Mr. Schnell's book, I was afterwards
steered towards another book titled "Kingdom Of The Cults" by Walter
Martin. No doubt the Society demonizes Mr. Martin too.

Around late 1980, my wife and I attended a series of lectures sponsored by
a local church titled "How To Witness To Jehovah's Witnesses". The speaker
(call him Pete) was an ex JW who had been in the Watchtower Society
system for near three decades before terminating his involvement; so he
knew the twists and turns of its doctrines pretty good.

Pete didn't train us to hammer the Society's missionaries in a discussion
because even if you best them scripture for scripture, they will not give up
on the Society. Their mind's unflinching premise is that the Society is right
even when it appears to be totally wrong. They are thoroughly convinced
that the Society is the voice of God, while your voice has no more validity
than that of a squeaky little gerbil.

Later on, I read a book titled "Why I Left The Jehovah's Witnesses" by Ted
Dencher. I also read and studied the Society's little brown book titled
"Reasoning From The Scriptures".

(This was all before the internet and the ready volumes of information
available on YouTube.)

From all that vetting, study, and training I quickly discovered that although
the Watchtower Society uses many of classical Christianity's standard terms
and phrases, those terms and phrases mean something entirely different in
the Witness mind than what you'd expect because the Society has re-defined
the meanings of those terminologies.

So your first challenge in coping with a Watchtower Society missionary is to
scale the language barrier. That by itself is an Herculean task because you'll
not only be up against a tangle of semantics, but also a Jumanji of twisted
scriptures, double speak, humanistic reasoning, rationalizing, and clever


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Raymond Victor Franz was a member of the Governing Body of Jehovah's
Witnesses from October 20, 1971 until his removal on May 22, 1980, and
served at the organization's world headquarters for fifteen years, from 1965
until 1980.

Mr. Franz resigned, and stated that the request for his resignation, and his
subsequent dis-fellowshipping, resulted from allegations of apostasy.

Following his departure, Mr. Franz wrote two books relating his personal
experiences with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, and his views on
Jehovah's Witness teachings.

One of his books is called "Crisis Of Conscience". It's a bit expensive in
print form, but as of the date of this writing could be heard audibly for free
on YouTube and/or as a free pdf download.

Mr. Franz's books, and his interviews, are helpful aids for people wondering
if they made the right decision leaving the Society's fold. It's also helpful for
people thinking about becoming a Jehovah's Witness but not too sure
whether they'd be making a really big, life-changing mistake not easily


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May 28, 2018

Many of the Jehovah's Witness missionaries going door-to-door throughout
the world are honestly, and sincerely, hoping to enter the kingdom of God;
which is why I'm convinced that Christians really ought to know something
about New Testament hope before engaging JWs in a conversation about it.

1Pet 3:15 . . Always ready to make a defense before everyone that
demands of you a reason for the hope in you,

The New Testament Greek word for "hope" in Peter's command is elpis (el
pece') which means to anticipate (usually with pleasure) and to expect with
confidence. Note the elements of anticipation, and expectation, and

Webster's definition of hope as a verb is very similar: 1) to desire with
expectation of obtainment, and 2) to expect with confidence and trust. Note
the elements of expectation, and confidence, and trust.

Webster's definition of hope as a noun is: 1) a desire accompanied by
expectation of, or belief in, fulfillment, and 2) expectation of fulfillment or
success. Note the elements of expectation, and belief.

In other words: elpis hope is a know-so hope rather than a cross your
fingers hope.

So, unless someone knows for proof-positive, beyond even the slightest
glimmer of sensible doubt, that they have a passport to the kingdom of God
locked in and irrevocable, then of course it is impossible for them to comply
with Peter's instructions seeing as they would not yet have the kind of hope
about which he wrote.

Rom 12:12 . . Rejoice in the hope.

When people are praying for the best, while in the back of their mind
dreading the worst, they have absolutely no cause for rejoicing; no; but they
do have plenty of cause to fear the unknown.

BTW: The kind of hope spoken of by 1Pet 3:15 and Rom 12:12 is a "calling".

Eph 4:4 . . There is the one hope to which you were called

When people are lacking the kind of hope described by the Greek word elpis,
then I believe it is safe to assume that they have not yet responded to God's
call; or worse, He has not called them; and quite possibly never will.

Rom 9:15-16 . . He says to Moses: I will have mercy upon whomever I do
have mercy, and I will show compassion to whomever I do show
compassion. So, then, it depends not upon the one wishing nor upon the one
running, but upon God, who has mercy.


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May 28, 2018

It's both tragic and ironic that the Watchtower Society's rank and file
missionaries go worldwide advertising a kingdom that they themselves will
never be allowed to enter. Here's why.

At John 3:3-12, Christ and a Jewish rabbi named Nicodemus discussed what
Christ labeled "earthly things".

The primary earthly thing discussed was the kingdom of God. The other
earthly thing discussed was a spirit-birth requirement to enter it. In other
words: God's kingdom on earth, and a spirit birth, are joined at the hip.

The Watchtower Society's earthly class (a.k.a. the hewers of wood and
haulers of water; viz: non-anointed JWs) aren't spirit-born now, nor do they
ever expect to be-- not in this life, nor in the next --yet they hope to enter
God's kingdom on earth. However, seeing as how the spirit-birth
requirement is a must rather than an option; they will not succeed


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May 28, 2018

The Watchtower Society will never accept classical Christianity's teaching
that Jesus Christ is Jehovah incognito simply because the Society's undying
premise is that it is impossible for someone to exist as a spirit being and a
human being simultaneously.

According to the premise: Jehovah's spirit existence would have to be
terminated before He could become a human existence; and I can easily
guarantee that nobody is ever going to convince the Society otherwise
unless they first prove that the Word of John 1:1-4 is impervious to death.

In other words; in order to prove to the Society that it's possible for a spirit
being to exist as a human being simultaneously, it is necessary to prove to
the Society that the Word is an everlasting life; which is a kind of life that
cannot die. Fortunately it's very easy to do because the apostle John did that
part for us.

1John 1:1-2 . .That which was from the beginning, which we have heard,
which we have seen with our eyes, which we have viewed attentively and
our hands felt, concerning the word of life, (yes, the life was made manifest,
and we have seen and are bearing witness and reporting to you the
everlasting life which was with the Father and was made manifest to us,)

The Greek word for "everlasting" in that passage is aionios (ahee-o'-nee-os)
which essentially means perpetual; viz: without interruption.

The Word's human existence as per John 1:14 was as a mortal life and thus
easily interrupted; but seeing as how the Word's spirit existence as
per 1John 1:1-2 is an everlasting life, then it's impossible for the Word's
spirit existence to be interrupted.

Jehovah cannot interrupt His existence as God because Jehovah is an
everlasting life (Gen 21:33, Rom 16:26). In the same manner, the Word
cannot interrupt his existence as the Word because the Word is an
everlasting life too. (John 5:26, 1John 1:1-2)

The Word may have temporarily divested himself of his glory when he came
to the earth to live and die as a human being, but he did not, and could not,
divest himself of his spirit existence because in order to do that, he would
have to die; which is an impossibility for everlasting life. If that were not so,
then it would be possible to assassinate Jehovah. In point of fact, it would
even be possible for Jehovah to commit suicide.

Precisely how a non mortal being can exist simultaneously as a mortal being
is one of the mysteries of classical Christianity that have to be accepted on
faith because the human mind is just too limited to get it.

NOTE: The human mind is produced by a 3-pound lump of flabby organic
tissue, and not even all three of those flabby pounds are devoted to
cognitive processes. On top of that, 60% of that tissue is fat; yet the
Watchtower Society actually believes that it's fatty, flabby little organic mind
is able to comprehend the complexities of somebody as supernatural as the
Word while it cannot even comprehend something as natural as the infinity
of space.


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May 28, 2018

Were John Q and/or Jane Doe Watchtower Society missionary to be asked if
they believe that Jesus Christ rose from the dead, I can assure you they
would answer in the affirmative. However, what you may not know is that
you and they would not be speaking the same language as the conversation
would be talking about two very different processes that go by the same
name. In other words: you would find yourself thrown off by semantic
double speak.

The classical Christian understanding of Christ's resurrection is common
throughout the gospels; viz: Jesus Christ's dead, crucified body was restored
to life as per John 2:19-22.

"Jesus said to them: Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it
up. Therefore the Jews said: This temple was built in forty-six years, and will
you raise it up in three days? But he was talking about the temple of his
body. When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples called to
mind that he used to say this; and they believed the Scripture and the
saying that Jesus said."

You see, if Jesus' dead, crucified body had not been restored to life, that
entire passage would be easily proven false. But according to the
Watchtower Society's way of seeing things; Christ's dead, crucified body
didn't return to life at all; and here's why.

In Watchtower Society theology, an angel named Michael volunteered to
come to the earth to die for humanity's sins. But in order to do so; he had to
relinquish his angel existence to become a human existence seeing as how
in Society theology it is impossible for someone to exist as a spirit being and
a human being simultaneously. However, when Michael expired, he didn't go
completely out of existence. Instead, his "life force" remained intact and was
transferred to a human form.

"the transferal of the life of his firstborn Son from the spirit realm to earth.
Only in this way could the child eventually born have retained identity as the
same person who had resided in heaven as the Word." (Aid to Bible
Understanding, 1971, p.920)

"He had to become a perfect man and yet not lose his continuity of life. His
life-force was not to be extinguished but would be transferred to the ovum
of the virgin girl, Mary." (Watchtower magazine, 2-15-82, p.7)

But Michael's existence as a human being was only temporary. When his
human form passed away on the cross, the Society claims that God
transferred Michael's life force back into his angel form thus restoring him to
his former spirit existence; leaving the corpse of his human existence in a
permanent state of decease.

NOTE: The Society teaches that death terminates existence; but apparently
not entirely because the Society also believes that at death, an angel's life
force was transferred to another form-- in Michael's case, from a spirit form
to an organic form; in effect, preserving a portion of Michael's existence so it
could be re-transferred later when God went about restoring Michael to his
former existence.

It could be argued that Jesus lives on in the body of an angel; but that
wouldn't be true seeing as how Jesus' life force was Michael's to begin with.

The Society has to accept the obvious fact that their doctrine implies that
Jesus Christ was never really fully human, rather, he was an amalgam of
angel and human seeing as how it was the life force of an angel that kept
Jesus' human body alive.

In other words: the Society's Jesus wasn't an organic man in the normal
sense, rather; he was an organic angel; because when you get right down to
it; the nature of one's life force is what determines the nature of their
existence. That's easily seen in the very first chapter of Genesis wherein all
the various creatures were given a life force pertinent to the nature of their

FYI: The Society maintains that Michael's crucified human form had to stay
dead so he could be an angel again. But that's not the only reason the
Society gives for keeping Michael's human remains perpetually deceased. An
additional explanation is given on page 237 of the April 15, 1963 issue of the
Watchtower magazine; where it's stated:

"If Jesus were to take his body of flesh, blood, and bones to heaven and
enjoy them there, what would this mean? It would mean that there would be
no resurrection of the dead for anybody. Why not? Because Jesus would be
taking his sacrifice off God's altar."

There is a really, really big flaw in the Society's theology; and that's
Michael's human remains. In order to confirm that his crucified human body
stayed dead, the Society is going to have produce it. A piece of evidence of
that significance can't be allowed to just slip through a crack unnoticed as if
it makes no difference. As Carl Sagan once said: Extraordinary claims
require extraordinary evidence.


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May 28, 2018

Acts 1:1-3 . .The first account, O Theophilus, I composed about all the
things Jesus started both to do and to teach, until the day that he was taken
up, after he had given commandment through holy spirit to the apostles
whom he chose. To these also by many positive proofs he showed himself
alive after he had suffered.

The Watchtower Society's version of those "positive proofs" is interesting.

In order to show his friends that their savior was back from death, Michael is
alleged to have materialized an artificial human body that was in all respects
just as physical, and just as functional, as a natural human body.


1• The New Testament never even one time, on any occasion, nor under any
circumstances, nor in any situation, either attests, alleges, alludes, or states
that an angel named Michael appeared in Christ's human form cloaked in a
materialized body.

2• The Society's Michael never once let on to his friends that he was an
angel in disguise. He led them to believe that his avatar was the actual Jesus
Christ they all knew prior to his crucifixion.

3• Passing one's self off in the guise of a dead man is the lowest form of
identity theft imaginable. People do it all the time; and it's what I expect
from human beings, but that is not the kind of behavior I have a right to
expect from an arch angel.

4• A so-called materialized body is not a real person; it's an avatar.

5• Neither Paul, nor Peter, nor John, nor James, nor Jude, ever even one
single instance in any of their writings identify Jesus Christ as an angel
named Michael: not once. You'd think that if Jesus Christ is currently an
angel who goes by the name of Michael, those men would have said so
because that would be a really big deal.

Q: Why make an issue of the nature of Christ's resurrection?

A: Were I the Devil, I would do my utmost best to disprove the
resurrection of Jesus' crucified dead body because his crucifixion is only half
enough to protect people from the wrath of God. Though his physical body's
death obtains forgiveness for people's sins, its death doesn't gain people an

Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered up for the sake of our trespasses, and was
raised up for the sake of declaring us righteous.

The Greek word translated "righteous" is dikaiosis (dik-ah'-yo-sis) whjich
means acquittal; defined as an adjudication of innocence.

People merely forgiven still carry a load of guilt; viz: they have a criminal
record. Christ's physical resurrection deletes their record so that on the books,
it's as though they've never been anything but 100% innocent.

This clearing of one's guilt that I'm talking about is obtained via the kindness
and generosity of God through belief in the resurrection of Christ's crucified
dead body. If the Devil can succeed in convincing people that Jesus' crucified
body is still dead or, even better yet, make them question whether the man
even existed at all; then they will fail to obtain an acquittal, and
consequently end up put to death in brimstone because records are to be
reviewed when people stand to face justice at the Great White Throne event
depicted at Rev 20:11-15.

Of all the doctrines invented by the Watchtower Society, I'd have to say that
their resurrection story is the most insidious because belief in the recovery
of Christ's crucified dead body is one of the essential elements of the gospel
that must be accepted if one is to have any chance at all of escaping the
sum of all fears.

1Cor 15:17 . . If Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you
are still in your sins.


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May 28, 2018

Matt 24:45-47 . .Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his
master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper
time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I
say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings.

That passage is fundamental to the existence and structure of the
Watchtower Society; and is its foundation Scripture. From it extends the
claim that in 1919 God chose the leaders of the Watchtower Society as His
sole source of truth; and henceforth justifies why Jehovah's Witnesses need
to submit unquestioningly to the Watchtower Governing Body in order to
associate with God, and for protection from doomsday, viz: the calamities
depicted in the book of Revelation.

"That faithful slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true
followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the faithful
slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this
channel." (Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 p.20)

"The faithful and discreet slave” was appointed over Jesus’ domestics in
1919. That slave is the small, composite group of anointed brothers serving
at world headquarters during Christ’s presence who are directly involved in
preparing and dispensing spiritual food. When this group work together as
the Governing Body, they act as the faithful and discreet slave. ( 10th
Nov 2012)

"We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s
approval." (Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.24 Simplified English Edition)

"Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust the faithful and
discreet slave, should we not do the same?" (Watchtower 2009 Feb 15 p.27)

"[A mature christian] does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or
harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has
complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through
his Son, Jesus Christ, and "the faithful and discreet slave." (Watchtower
2001 Aug 1 p.14

"Show respect for the “faithful and discreet slave” that He is using at the
present time. Actually, your very life depends on following this course of
action. Remember, too, it is only he that endures to the end that will be
saved." (Watchtower 1964 Jul 15 p.435)

"To act consistently with our baptism for life and into the Greater Noah we
must submit to and cooperate with that slave and its legal instrument, the
Watchtower Society." (Watchtower 1959 Oct 1 p.583)

For many decades, the Slave included all "anointed" Witnesses, but from
2009 the Governing Body began making statements to increase its own
authority. During the 2012 Annual Meeting, the Governing Body announced
it had assumed the role of the Slave solely upon themselves.

NOTE: I've had WT missionaries tell me that The Watchtower magazine isn't
an authority in matters of faith and practice. But the Jan 1, 1942 issue of the
magazine, on page 5, speaks for itself as a trustworthy source of
Watchtower Society theology by saying:

"Those who are convinced that The Watchtower is publishing the opinion or
expression of a man should not waste time in looking at it at all. Those who
believe that God uses he Watchtower as a means of communicating to his
people, or of calling attention to his prophecies, should study The

In other words: the haulers of water and the hewers of wood-- viz: the rank
and file --are not only expected to know what's in the Watchtower magazine,
but they're also required to accept it as the God's truth.

FYI: Paragraph 12, under the heading; "Who is leading God's People today?"
of the Feb 2017 Watchtower--Study Edition says:

"The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in
doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. In fact, the Watch Tower
Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clarified,” which lists
adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870. Of course, Jesus did
not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food."

Can you just imagine the degree of confusion and uncertainty that would be
in the minds of regular Christians had the authors of the New Testament
scriptures made a statement similar to the above?


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May 28, 2018

Rom 8:9 . .You are in harmony, not with the flesh, but with the spirit, if
God’s spirit truly dwells in you.

NOTE: The Watchtower Society does not acknowledge God's spirit as a
sentient being, rather:

"The holy spirit is the active force of God. It is not a person but is a powerful
force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will."
(Reasoning From The Scriptures, p. 381)

I highly recommend avoiding debate with JWs over the personage of God's
spirit because they will match you scripture for scripture and you'll just end
up going round and round in circles and never get to the bottom of anything.

Anyway; Rom 8:9 informs the Watchtower Society's elite class of 144,000
anointed Witnesses that they are in harmony with God's spirit; seeing as
how it's alleged that the anointed class has God's sprit truly dwelling in

At the same time; it informs the non-anointed class of Witnesses that they
are in harmony, not with God's spirit, but with the flesh; and that is not a
good thing seeing as they that are in harmony with the flesh are Jehovah's
adversaries; unwilling to either please Him or comply with His wishes. If
John Q and Jane Doe non-anointed Witness don't know this; then all I can
say is: they've got some catching up to do.

Rom 8:8 . . So those who are in harmony with the flesh cannot please

There's more.

1John 2:26-27 . .These things I write you about those who are trying to
mislead you. And as for you, the anointing that you received from him
remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but, as the
anointing from him is teaching you about all things, and is true and is no lie,
and just as it has taught you, remain in union with him.

In a nutshell: the anointed class is allegedly able to remain in union with
Christ on their own by means of the one-on-one spiritual guidance that the
anointing provides them. Seeing as how the non-anointed class doesn't have
access to either the anointing or the anointing's one-on-one spiritual
guidance; they therefore are incapable of remaining in union with Christ on
their own.

That, coupled with their resistance to God as per Rom 8:8, leaves John Q
and Jane Doe non-anointed Witness in a defenseless spiritual condition; vz:
they are susceptible to deception by means of clever sophistry, semantic
double speak, and humanistic reasoning.

There's more yet:

Non anointed Witnesses sincerely believe they don't need the anointing
because they obtain their spiritual instruction from anointed leaders.
However, according to 1Cor 2:12-14, non anointed Witnesses will neither
listen to, nor accept, instruction from an anointed teacher because a physical
man does not receive the things of the spirit of God, for they are foolishness
to him; and he cannot get to know them, because they are examined

FYI: "physical man" (a.k.a. natural man) is the Bible's terminology for non
anointed people. Here's the way that non anointed people are described with
language from a classical version of the Bible.

"We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God,
that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we
speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the
Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words. The man without the
Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they
are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are
spiritually discerned."

Therefore; if non anointed Witness are receiving and accepting spiritual
instruction from their leaders, it's only because their leaders are just as non
anointed as they are, i.e. it is an actual, real-life case of the blind leading the


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1Tim 2:5 . . For there is one God, and one mediator between God and
men, a man, Christ Jesus.

On page 1129 of the Watchtower publication Aid To Bible Understanding a
mediator is defined as one who interposes between two parties at variance
to reconcile them: an intercessor.

Here's a question that someone wrote in to the "Questions From Readers"
section of the April 01, 1976 issue of Watchtower magazine, asking:

Is Jesus the mediator only for anointed Christians? (a.k.a. the 144,000)

The answer given in the magazine is YES.

The magazine's answer is corroborated on page 1130 of Aid To Bible
Understanding where it says that the 144,000 are the only ones who have
the mediator; a.k.a. Jesus Christ. (1John 2:1)

Intercession for non anointed Witnesses is accomplished on the coattails of
the 144,000; viz: Jesus Christ is an indirect, second party mediator for the
rank and file via their affiliation with the Watchtower Society.

It's sort of like buying insurance from Allstate. The company doesn't sell
direct; its business is conducted through brokers. In essence, that's what the
Society presumes itself: Jesus Christ's mediation brokerage.

So then; when a Jehovah's Witness either defects or is disfellowshipped, it
breaks the pipeline to the mediator that he enjoyed within the Society's fold;
and he right quick loses all contact with God; and finds himself in grave
danger of the calamities depicted in the book of Revelation.

Bottom line: According to Watchtower Society theology; it is impossible for
non-anointed people to be on peaceful terms with God apart from affiliation
with the Society's anointed class, a.k.a. the faithful and wise steward.

In other words: Christ's mediation as per 1Tim 2:5 is accomplished via a
chain of communication that begins with Christ's association with the faithful
and wise steward; and from thence to the rest of humanity. Removing the
faithful and wise steward from the chain cuts humanity off from Christ; thus
leaving them with no way to reconcile with God.


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Q: 1Cor 15:50 clearly testifies that flesh and blood cannot inherit the
kingdom of God. Wouldn't that fact alone preclude the possibility of Christ's
crucified dead body returning to life?

A: First, and foremost; it was essential that Christ's crucified dead body be
returned to life or otherwise his prediction as per John 2:19-22, and the
Scriptures as per Ps 16:10, Luke 24:44-46, and Acts 2:24-32 would be
easily proven false.

The chemistry of Jesus' original body had to be the same when it revived.
However, as 1Cor 15:50 says: his body's original chemistry is unsuitable for
life in a celestial environment. So then, in order for Jesus to be up there as a
physical being, the chemistry of his body had to be reformulated.

God is very creative so I seriously doubt that flesh and blood are the only
materials that He has to work with. I also seriously doubt that spirit material
is the default material when flesh and blood are not an option; I mean, after
all, if God was able to design the human body in its original form to inhabit
the Earth, I see no reason why He would not be able to redesign it to inhabit
a celestial abode.

Q: When would Christ's body have undergone this redesign/reformulation?

A: Some day all of Christ's believing followers will be physically resurrected
and taken up to meet the Lord in the air (1Thes 4:13-17). On the way up,
their natural bodies will undergo a sudden and miraculous transformation
(1Cor 15:51-53). They'll become superhuman; viz: deathless and ageless.

I think it's pretty safe to assume that Christ's crucified body underwent a
similar transformation while on the way up to heaven as per Acts 1:9 so that
today his body is no longer a normal human body; but instead, a
superhuman body to which all his believing followers' bodies will one day
conform. (Php 4:20-21)

Although the chemistry of his body has been reformulated; it's still capable
of dining upon ordinary foods and beverages. (Mark 14:25 and Luke 22:16

Q: If Jesus Christ's corpse really did return to life; then how did he get it into
a room without opening the door? (John 20:19)

A: Too many people expect Christianity to be a reasonable, scientific
religion. It's not. Christianity is a supernatural religion; for example:

Christ walked on water, restored withered limbs, cured people born blind,
healed serious diseases like leprosy, restored dead bodies to life, controlled
the weather, multiplied fish and bread, turned water into wine, and
levitated. Plus; he once said that rocks could be made to speak. (Luke

What's one more miracle, more or less? Walking through walls?
Disappearing and reappearing? How hard could any of that really be for a
man with the powers of God at his disposal?

It's curious how people can say they believe in miracles but yet cannot
believe that God has sufficient control over the laws of nature to make a
physical human body pass through solid objects.

Q: Well; if Jehovah has enough control over the laws of nature to pass a
physical human body through closed doors, then couldn't He pass the arch
angel Michael through the door as a spirit and then materialize him on the
other side as a human in order to communicate with his friends?

A: That would be acceptable if only there were some record of it in the New
Testament. But it is an irrefutable fact that the New Testament not even one
time, on any occasion, nor under any circumstances, nor in any situation,
either attests, alleges, alludes, or states that an angel named Michael
appeared to Christ's friends cloaked in a human avatar. That doctrine
doesn't come from the New Testament. It's a humanistic fantasy.


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1Cor 15:44 . . It is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body. If
there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one.

Watch as I misquote that passage because the difference, though subtle. Is

"It is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spirit body. If there is a physical
body, there is also a spirit one."

No; it doesn't say spirit body but nevertheless that's what some people have
decided it ought to say.

The Greek word translated "spiritual" is ambiguous. It doesn't necessarily
refer to the characteristics of a body with the consistency of thin air. Below
is a list of spiritual things that bear absolutely no resemblance whatsoever to
the bodily chemistry of an angel or a demon.

Spiritual gifts (Rom 1:11)
Spiritual law (Rom 7:14)
Spiritual things (Rom 15:27)
Spiritual people (1Cor 2:15)
Spiritual nourishment (1Cor 10:3)
Spiritual water (1Cor 10:4)
Spiritual rock (1Cor 10:4)
Spiritual counselors (Gal 6:1)
Spiritual blessings (Eph 1:3)
Spiritual music (Eph 5:19)
Spiritual understanding (Col 1:9)
Spiritual housing (1Pet 2:5)
Spiritual sacrifices (1Pet 2:5)

I'm inclined to believe that the spiritual body spoken of at 1Cor 15:44 is in
no way composed of a gaseous substance. Of what material it is composed I
don't know; but I do know at least four things about it.

1• The spiritual body is patterned after Christ's glorified body.

Phil 3:20-21 . .Our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a savior
from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to
bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that
they will be like his glorious body.

2• The spiritual body is capable of dining upon ordinary foods.

Luke 22:15-16 . . I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you
before I suffer. For I tell you: I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in
the kingdom of God.

3• The spiritual body is capable of imbibing ordinary beverages.

Matt 26:29 . . I tell you: I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now
on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father's kingdom.

4• The spiritual body is capable of being seen by the naked eye.

Acts 1:11 . . Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This
Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the
same way as you have watched him go into heaven.

Rev 1:7 . . Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see
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Ps 110:4 . . Jehovah has sworn (and he will feel no regret): You are a
priest to time indefinite according to the manner of Melchizedek

Melchizedek's only personal appearance in the Bible occurs at Gen 14:18-20.
The letter to Hebrews in the New Testament utilizes him as a "type" of
Christ's celestial priesthood.

The author of the letter to Hebrews was reluctant to discuss Melchizedek's
office, and how Christ's current high priest position relates to it, because the
recipients of the letter were so spiritually immature, and so disinterested in
Bible study, that he feared his comments would result in a ping. In other
words: a discussion of Melchizedek and how he relates to Jesus Christ isn't
everybody's cup of tea so I won't bother going into detail.

However; at least one of the salient features of Mel's priesthood should be
readily obvious to everybody regardless of their spiritual acumen: Mel was a
human being; just as all of God's high priests have always been human
beings-- no exceptions. In point of fact, the letter to Hebrews clearly states
that high priests are taken from among men (Heb 5:1). So that becomes the
#1 qualification for a Melchizedekian priest right out of the box and instantly
disqualifies spirit beings.

Mel's jurisdiction was on the earth. But that was before Israel's covenanted
law established Aaron's priesthood. So when that happened; Mel's post was
temporarily suspended; and in point of fact, if Christ were on Earth, he
would not be an active priest because this is Aaron's district.

However, though Mel's post was moved to heaven's temple, there were no
changes made to the nature of the person who holds the office. In other
words; a priest according to the manner of Melchizedek is a human being no
matter where he is. And since Ps 110:4 made Jesus Christ a priest to time
indefinite, then he will remain a human being to time indefinite; and in order
to be a human being, the Society says he has to have a human body
because in their theology; human existence is entirely physical.

1Tim 2:5 . . For there is one God, and one mediator between God and
men, a man, Christ Jesus.

The word for "men" and the word for "man" in that verse are derived from
anthropos (anth'-ro-pos) --a common koiné Greek word for human beings in
the New Testament; which is why that passage doesn't say there is one
mediator between God and men, an angel, Christ Michael. No it doesn't say
an angel, Christ Michael; no, it says a man, Christ Jesus; who everyone
knows to be a human being rather than an angel by the same name.

A search of the entire New Testament for the angel Michael turns up but two
references: Jude 1:9 and Rev 12:7. That angel is nowhere in the gospels,
nowhere in Acts, and nowhere in the epistles other than Jude. If that angel
is so all-fired important; then why is it so marginalized? Even the Society
itself is a bit perplexed as to why the name of an angel so highly revered in
their theology is nigh unto absent in the New Testament.

The Society claims that the names Jesus and Michael are interchangeable;
but that's the most ridiculous case of apples and oranges on record; not to
mention a very serious case of identity fraud. Even if an angel had once
existed as a human being named Jesus; it no longer does. Now it exists as
an angel being named Michael. The two names aren't interchangeable
because the one name denotes a human being and the other name denotes
a spirit being. Go ahead; search the New Testament and see how much luck
you have finding somebody's name hyphenated like this: Jesus-Michael
Christ. You won't because the Society's theology is an utter fantasy.

Oh what a wicked web we weave,
When first we practice to deceive.

-- Sir Walter Scott --

That poem rings so true. Once Charles T. Russell and/or Joseph F.
Rutherford declared that Michael the angel, and Jesus Christ the human, are
the same person; they were faced with the Herculean task of forcing the
Bible to agree; and that was quite a challenge; which was accomplished by
means of clever amalgams of fiction, sophistry, half-truths, semantic double
speak, and humanistic reasoning.


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Col 1:15 . . He is the firstborn of all creation

The Watchtower Society has appropriated that verse as evidence that God's
son was the first thing created before everything else in the cosmos.

However, the New Testament Greek word for "firstborn" in that verse is
prototokos, which never means created first; no, it always means born first.
The correct Greek word for created first is protoktistos.

The average Watchtower Society missionary doesn't know the difference
between prototokos and protoktistos; and no doubt would care little about it
anyway. To some of them; born first and created first are essentially one
and the same.

But are they the same? No. Birthing requires a parent while creating
requires a craftsman. Birthing produces progeny while crafting produces
projects. God's son wasn't a project; no, he's progeny.

Firstborn doesn't always refer to birth order. The term also refers to pay
grade, so to speak, and as such is transferrable from an elder to a younger,
e.g. Jacob and Esau (Gen 25:23) Manasseh and Ephraim (Gen 48:13-14)
and Reuben and Joseph (Gen 49:3-4, 1Chr 5:1).

David was God's firstborn (Ps 89:20-27). The position was later transferred
to one of David's sons (Dan 7:13-14, Ps 110:1, Matt 22:42-45, Phil 2:9-11). So
for now and forever; neither anything nor anybody is higher up on creation's
chain of command than Christ.


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Below is the text of Col 1:16-17 quoted verbatim from the Watchtower
Society's New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures ©1969.

"Because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens
and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter
whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All
[other] things have been created through him and for him. Also, he is before
all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to

Note that the word "other" is in brackets. This alert readers that "other" is
not in the Greek manuscript; viz: the Society's editors took the liberty to
pencil it in; which gives the impression that God's son was His first creation;
and thereafter, His son created everything else.

One day, a pair of Watchtower missionaries came to my door consisting of
an experienced worker and a trainee. I immediately began subjecting the
trainee to a line of questioning that homed in on the Society's rather
dishonest habit of penciling in words that go to reinforcing it's line of

I had him read the Society's text of Col 1:16-17 and then pointed out that
the word "other" is in brackets to alert him to the fact that "other" is not in
the Greek manuscript. The experienced worker corroborated my statement.

I then proceeded to have the trainee read the passage sans "other". It
comes out like this:

"By means of him all things were created in the heavens and upon the earth,
the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are
thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All things have been
created through him and for him. Also, he is before all things and by means
of him all things were made to exist."

The trainee's eyes really lit up; and he actually grinned with delight to
discover that Col 1:16-17 reveals something quite different than what he
was led to believe.

Had I pressed the attack; I would have pointed out to the trainee that the
Society is inconsistent with its use of the word "other" by failing to pencil it
into John 1:3 in order to make it read like this:

"All [other] things came into existence through him, and apart from him not
even one [other] thing came into existence."

Now; as to tampering with Paul's letters, and forcing them to mean things
they don't say in writing; this is what Peter has to say about that.

2Pet 3:15-16 . . Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as
salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul according to the wisdom given
him also wrote you, speaking about these things as he does also in all his
letters. In them, however, are some things hard to understand, which the
untaught and unsteady are twisting, as they do also the rest of the
Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Untaught people are oftentimes self-taught; and were the Society's
missionaries to check into ol' Charles T. Russell's rather ignoble past; they'd
find that "self-taught" pretty much describes the origin of their theology.

NOTE: The 1984 revised version of the New World Translation omits
brackets around the word "other" in Col 1:16-17. However, it's readily seen
from the Watchtower Society's Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek
Scriptures that "other" is nowhere to be found in the Greek text.


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The Watchtower Society's theology is a based on a version called
monolatrism, which basically alleges that all gods are actual deities; though
not all deities are deemed worthy of worship. This is not quite the same as
polytheism where numerous gods are all considered worthy of worship.

Monolatrism is distinguished from monotheism (asserts the existence of only
one god) and distinguished from henotheism (a religious system in which the
believer worships one god alone without denying that others may worship
different gods of equal value)

While classical Christianity recognizes but two categories of gods; the
Watchtower Society's theologians took the liberty to create a third
sandwiched between the true and the false called "mighty ones". The
mighty-one category is a sort of neutral zone where qualifying personages
exist as bona fide deities without violating the very first of the Ten
Commandments. For example:

"I myself have said: You are gods" (Ps 82:6)

The gods referred to in that passage are humans in positions of judicial
authority; which everybody should know are only imitation deities rather
than the genuine article; so in order to avoid stigmatizing humans as fake
gods, the Society classifies them as mighty ones.

This gets kind of humorous when we plug "mighty one" into various
locations. For example:

"In the beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was a mighty one." (John 1:1)

And another:

"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten mighty one who is in
the bosom position with the Father is the one that has explained him." (John

The "mighty one" category was an invention of necessity. In other words:
without it, the Society would be forced to classify the only-begotten (John
1:18) and the Word (John 1:1) as a false god seeing as how Deut 6:4, John
17:3, and 1Cor 8:4-6 testify that there is only one true god.

POSIT: Jesus verified the authenticity of Ps 82:6 in a discussion recorded at
John 10:34-36. If the word of God cannot be nullified, then those gods have
to be real gods.

RESPONSE: They're real alright, no doubt about it; however: true gods are
immortal; they're impervious to death. The gods in Psalm 82 are not
impervious to death. In other words: they're real gods but they are not true
gods because according to Deut 6:4, John 17:3, and 1Cor 8:4-6 there is only
one true god. If the gods of Psalm 82 were true gods, then Deut 6:4, John
17:3, and 1Cor 8:4-6 would be invalidated.

So then, what does all this say about God's son? Well; if God's son is only a
mighty one, as the Watchtower Society alleges; then he's an imitation god,
and his divinity is no more divine in reality than a totem pole or a statue of


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Matt 22:41-46 . . Now while the Pharisees were gathered together Jesus
asked them: “What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?” They
said to him: “David’s" He said to them: “How, then, is it that David by
inspiration calls him ‘Lord,’ saying, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right
hand until I put your enemies beneath your feet” ’? If, therefore, David calls
him ‘Lord,’ how is he his son?”

Jesus referred to Psalm 110:1, which reads like this in the NWT.

The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is: “Sit at my right hand until I place
your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

The Hebrew word for "Lord" in that verse is 'adown (aw-done'); a very
common title of respect for one's superiors in the Old Testament. Sarah
revered her husband Abraham as 'adown (Gen 18:12) Rachel revered her
dad Laban as 'adown (Gen 31:5) and Jacob revered his brother Esau as
'adown (Gen 33:8). So then; Psalm 110:1 can be translated like this:

The utterance of Jehovah to my superior: "Sit at my right hand until I place
your enemies as a stool for your feet."

David is the paterfamilias of his own line of royalty so that he is superior to
all of his male progeny; none of them outrank him, all are his subordinates.
But Ps 110:1 speaks of one of David's male progeny that somehow breaks
the rules; and the Jews were utterly baffled by it.

Matt 22:46 . . And no one was able to answer him a word

The Jews were no doubt aware, by means of their Old Testament studies,
that the rank of firstborn was transferrable to one's siblings, but nobody
even dreamed it was transferable to one's offspring. This was something
strange to their Jewish way of thinking; yet there it is in black and white in
their own scriptures. They had somehow failed to catch the significance of Ps
110:1 until Jesus drew their attention to it.

Eph 1:20-21 . .It is according to the operation of the mightiness of his
strength, with which he has operated in the case of the Christ when he
raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the
heavenly places, far above every government and authority and power and
lordship and every name named, not only in this system of things, but also
in that to come.

Phil 2:8-11 . . God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him
the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus
every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those
under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus
Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

Q: What is the name that is above every other name?

A: Jehovah

Q: Is that another reason why Jesus is superior to David?

A: Yes. Jesus has the God-given right to use Jehovah's name as his own
name; which allows him all the respect and reverence that the name
deserves; viz: failure to revere Jesus as Jehovah dishonors the name of God
the Father.


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Jer 10:10 . . Jehovah is in truth God. He is the living god.

The Hebrew word for "living" in that passage is chay (khah'-ee) which first
appears in the Bible at Gen 1:20 where it speaks of aqua life and winged life.
Then it appears at Gen 1:24 where it speaks of life on land. It appears again
at Gen 2:7 where it speaks of human life.

Vegetation is never spoken of as chay. So I think we can limit the kind of life
spoken of by chay as conscious life; viz: sentient existence.

Jehovah is called the living god something like fifteen times in the Old
Testament, and fifteen more times in the New.

I'm unaware of any other gods in the whole Bible identified as living gods;
not even the gods of Psalm 82 to whom God said "You are gods".

Because of that; I think it safe to conclude that no other god is a living god.
In other words: labeling Jehovah as the living god is a way of saying He is
the only god that's actually eternal, i.e. always was, always is, and always
shall be. This has some serious ramifications.

Speaking of Christ:

Col 2:9 . . It is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells

The Greek word for "divine quality" is theotes (theh-ot'-ace) which means:

Seeing as how theotes is modified by the Greek definite article "ho" then
what we're looking at here in Col 2:9 isn't nondescript divinity, but rather
the divinity. In other words: we're looking at the fullness of the divinity of
the living god.

Just about everybody on both sides of the aisle agrees that the Word spoken
of at John 1:1 is a god. However: the Word isn't just any god; no, the
fullness of the divinity of the living god dwells in the Word; viz: the Word is
a living god, i.e. the life that's in the Word always was, always is, and
always shall be.

John 5:26 . . For just as the Father has life in himself, so He has granted
also to the Son to have life in himself.

When the Father granted the Son to have life in himself just as the Father
has life in Himself, things got a bit complicated because unless Jehovah and
the Word are different names for the same personage; there is now one too
many living gods out there.


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Q: One translation of John 1:18 says that Jesus is the only-begotten god;
while another translation says Jesus is the only begotten son. Which
translation is correct?

A: Either translation will do because, biologically speaking, they're both
saying the very same thing.

John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, and 1John 4:9 are translated
from the Greek word monogenes (mon-og-en-ace') which is a combination
of two words.

The first is mono, which music buffs recognize as a single channel rather
than two or four in surround sound stereo. Mono is very common; e.g.
monogamy, monofilament, monotonous, mononucleotide, monochrome,
monogram, monolith, monologue, monomial, et al.

The other word is genes; from whence we get the English word gene; which
Webster's defines as a biological term indicating a part of a cell that controls
or influences the appearance, growth, etc., of a living thing. In other words:
monogenes refers to one biological gene set rather than many.

Monogenes always, and without exception, refers to a couple's sole biological
child in the New Testament. If a couple has two or more biological children,
none of them qualify as monogenes because in order to qualify as a
monogenes child, the child has to be an only child. Obviously then, an
adopted child can never be monogenes because it wouldn't be the parents'
biological child. Examples of monogenes children are located at Luke 7:12,
Luke 8:42, and Luke 9:38.

So then, scientifically speaking, Christ is unique in that he is God's biological
offspring, while God's other sons are not; viz: they're placed as sons, i.e.
adopted. (Rom 8:15-16, Gal 4:4-6, Eph 1:4-5)

Q: God literally fathered a child?

A: I think it's probably a bit more accurate to say that God literally co-
fathered a child.

Q: How did he do it? Is there a Mrs. God? And who was the other father?

A: Jesus' conception, described at Luke 1:26-35, wasn't only miraculous, it
was a very unusual combination of human and divine.

David contributed the human element. (Luke 1:32, Acts 13:22-23, Rom 1:1-
3, and 2Tim 2:8)

God contributed the divine element. (Luke 1:35 and 1John 3:9)

Jesus then, is just as much God's progeny as he is David's; and just as much
David's progeny as he is God's.

Q: What about Heb 11:17 where Isaac is stated to be Abraham's monogenes
child? Wasn't Ishmael a biological child of his too?

A: Isaac is the only biological child that Abraham and Sarah produced
together; just as Jesus is the only biological child that God and Man
produced together.

To say that this is all very baffling, illogical, unscientific, and unreasonable
would be an understatement. In my mind's normal way of thinking, Christ's
rather odd case of mixed-species genetics is an outlandish fantasy that,
biologically, makes no sense at all. It's sort of like crossing an iguana with
an apricot to produce a reptilian fruit tree. But; the circumstances of Christ's
conception are in the Bible, so those of us who call ourselves Christians have
got to accept it.


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According to John 8:29, 2Cor 5:21, Heb 4:15, and 1Pet 2:22; Jesus
committed no sins of his own.

The Watchtower Society is of the opinion that Christ didn't sin because he
"chose" not to sin. That's what they say; but it's not what the Bible says.
The fact of the matter is; Christ's divine genetics make it impossible for him
to sin.

1John 3:9 . . Everyone who has been born from God does not carry on sin,
because His [reproductive] seed remains in such one, and he cannot practice
sin, because he has been born from God.

That translation makes it look as though one born of God sins now and then
but not all the time; viz: doesn't make a habit of sin. But the text on the
Greek side of the Kingdom Interlinear reads like this:

"He is not able to be sinning because out of God he has been generated."

There's more:

Col 2:9 . . It is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells

What we're looking at isn't nondescript divine quality; rather, the divine
quality; viz: we're looking at the quality of God's divinity; which I think
pretty safe to assume is impeccable. I seriously doubt even the Devil himself
could fail and/or sin were he brimming with not just a percentage; but with
all the quality of God's divinity.

Q: If it was impossible for Christ to sin; then what practical purpose did his
temptation serve?

A: Christ testified "I always do the things pleasing to Him" (John 8:29). The
Devil's failure to break Christ proves the truth of his statement. In other
words: Christ was proof-tested to demonstrate that he contains no flaws.

No doubt the Devil expected that after forty days in the outback without
food, Christ would be worn down to the point where he would no longer care
whether he sinned or not. But it made no difference. Christ was still just as
impervious to sin after forty days in the outback as he was during the first
30 years of his life in Nazareth because Christ's innocence doesn't depend
upon his resolve; rather, upon his genetics so to speak; viz: upon God's
[reproductive] seed.

While we're on the subject: what is the one thing God cannot do? Well; the
JWs' conditioned response is that God cannot lie (Heb 6:18). But a better
response than that is God cannot sin. In point of fact: it is just as impossible
for God to sin as it is for His progeny to sin. I mean; think about it. If God's
progeny is unable to sin due to the intrinsically sinless nature of God's
reproductive seed; then it goes without saying that the source of that seed
would be unable to sin too.

Jas 1:13 . . For with evil things God cannot be tried.